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Old 06-08-2015, 09:02 AM
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The Sig P938 Extreme at KyGunCo is $607.00 I had recommended the Sig P938 in my previous post and think it is a great gun. I have the smaller counterpart, the P238 but a good friend has the P938 and he loves it. As far a handling the manual safety, it just takes practice to remember that you need to take the safety off but 1911 shooters have been doing it for over 100 years. I recently was practicing with my P238 and the one thing I did remember is that I don't like the plastic serrated trigger so I'm replacing it with a brushed stainless steel trigger which I think will feel a lot better. I know the Bodyguard has been mentioned in these threads and while the size makes it convenient to carry, I recently practiced with mine and remembered that it's not a fun gun to shoot or practice with. I recently purchased the Shield and that is my main C&C but if I need smaller, I'll have the Sig P238 with me in the future. Anyway, you might want to look at KY Gun Co., they also have two other P938 models that are less than $600 and like Bud's, they're easy to deal with. Regards, Elliot45

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Old 06-08-2015, 05:57 PM
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The Sig P938 Extreme at KyGunCo is $607.00 I had recommended the Sig P938 in my previous post and think it is a great gun. I have the smaller counterpart, the P238 but a good friend has the P938 and he loves it. As far a handling the manual safety, it just takes practice to remember that you need to take the safety off but 1911 shooters have been doing it for over 100 years. I recently was practicing with my P238 and the one thing I did remember is that I don't like the plastic serrated trigger so I'm replacing it with a brushed stainless steel trigger which I think will feel a lot better. I know the Bodyguard has been mentioned in these threads and while the size makes it convenient to carry, I recently practiced with mine and remembered that it's not a fun gun to shoot or practice with. I recently purchased the Shield and that is my main C&C but if I need smaller, I'll have the Sig P238 with me in the future. Anyway, you might want to look at KY Gun Co., they also have two other P938 models that are less than $600 and like Bud's, they're easy to deal with. Regards, Elliot45
Good tip. Thank you.
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Sig P938 with the short mag. Cocked and locked in a good pocket holster.
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:59 PM
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I am looking for a replacement for my LC9. I was just getting to the point where I could shoot it decently, but took it out the other day and had a number of problems. Unfortunately, I seem to be developing arthritis in my hands around the thumbs. Now, I have a great deal of difficulty working the slide, mag release, etc. and can hardly hit paper. I have an LCR that I like and can still manage, but would still like a small pocket 9 for the extra rounds and other advantages of an auto. Budget is an issue for me right now (transitioning employment for the next few months), so I am looking to keep it as reasonable as possible.

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LC9s Pro – assuming that the upgrades are enough to make it easier to handle.
S&W Shield – I fired one that belongs to a friend about a year ago, but not enough to form an opinion.
SR9c – I have heard good things and like the way it fits in my hand, but think it might be a little too large to drop in my pocket, which would defeat the purpose of a smaller 9.
Springfield XD-S – I have never fired one, but I really like my XDsc. It is just a little too large to drop in my pocket.

I would really appreciate any hands on feedback on any / all of these guns, or other options I may not have listed.

TIA for your help!
The Smith@wesson shield is outstanding, very concealable in pocket holster such as Desantis nemesis in relaxed fit jeans etc... Also I'd consider the Smith Bodyguard 38 revolver- great Cc gun with built in laser, 14 ounces n a pleasure to carry with peace of mind of safeness of a quality revolver while the 38 or 38 +P is great self defense caliber.
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Old 06-13-2015, 12:25 PM
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The Smith@wesson shield is outstanding, very concealable in pocket holster such as Desantis nemesis in relaxed fit jeans etc... Also I'd consider the Smith Bodyguard 38 revolver- great Cc gun with built in laser, 14 ounces n a pleasure to carry with peace of mind of safeness of a quality revolver while the 38 or 38 +P is great self defense caliber.
Thanks. I still need to get my hands on one so I can see if I can manage the slide and controls.
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My LGS, a pawnshop, got a whole pallet shipment of G43s. I don't know how many there were exactly but he sold them all out in 2 days. Very hot item apparently.
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Old 06-13-2015, 07:51 PM
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My Kahr CM9 has been fantastic. I have over 2000 round through it and it has been 100% reliable and is very accurate. I considered the PM9, but the physical difference between the two is insignificant but the cost difference is considerable. I have an XDS as well and IMO it's a little to bulky and heavy for pocket carry.
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Old 06-13-2015, 11:15 PM
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My LGS, a pawnshop, got a whole pallet shipment of G43s. I don't know how many there were exactly but he sold them all out in 2 days. Very hot item apparently.
I've only seen one so far at Bass Pro. Pricey.
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S&W shield 9mm in a FIST kydex pocket holster.
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My dad has carried his Ruger SR9c for about a year now. He's carried it IWB and in a pocket holster in cargo pockets and never had any complaints. Maybe something worth considering?
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Old 06-19-2015, 09:56 AM
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My dad has carried his Ruger SR9c for about a year now. He's carried it IWB and in a pocket holster in cargo pockets and never had any complaints. Maybe something worth considering?
I like the SR9c, but it seems a little big for pocket carry. How does he manage that?
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Old 09-05-2015, 07:47 PM
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So to revisit my original post, here is my update:

Last night I picked up a G43. Once I got everything done, I only had a half hour on the range with it. In that time, I put 125 rounds through it. It was a mix or Hornady, Federal, Remington, and Blazer. First impressions:
No function problems whatsoever. Everything fed through with no problems.
This is my first Glock. I know a lot of people criticize them for being "soulless." Since I view guns as tools (especially SD guns), this is not a problem for me as long as it continues to work flawlessly.
The sights are good, but different than what I am used to. Initially, I was shooting low and to the left. Once I started to make adjustments, it was much more centered. I did notice that for snap shooting using only the front sight, it centered more easily than most handguns I have tried.
It is a light gun. For carry purposes, that is great and what I was looking for. However, it does make it snappy. I will definitely need to practice to find and keep a good grip on it. I added a grip sleeve, so I am looking forward to seeing if this helps.
Since I wanted it for pocket carry, I plan to pick up a Remora sticky holder. Good for the pocket or to slide into the waistband.
I have read a lot of criticism about the triggers on Glocks. I was pleased with it and think it will be easy to get used to with more practice. Bear in mind, I am comparing it to my last pocket 9, the original LC9. I'm a huge Ruger fan, but the trigger on that was awful. Could never get used to it.
That is all for now, as I haven't had a lot of time with it. So far, I am happy with it and could see getting quite comfortable with it as I spend more time on the range, etc.
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That's the same magazine that touted extreme shock ammo and parroted the sales pitch from the manufacturer. I really cannot trust places that are given guns the test because why would they say anything bad about guns or they won't get any new ones to test. Plus you don't want to make your heavy advertisers mad, got to give them good reviews.
I'm just guessing that you didn't read the article in question. It was actually quite good.
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I don't see how you are not going to experience the same problems with any other small 9mm. If .380 is not an option, I think a revolver makes the most sense in your case. Pocket pistols only offer an additional one or two rounds over a small revolver, so you are not gaining much in the way of capacity going with a pocket semi-auto.
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Bought a Sig 938 SAS about a month ago. Love everything except the plastic trigger, and am having that upgraded now. Not a big problem overall, but a bit gritty. If you like lasers, the Crimson Trace comes highly recommended by some, but I can do with out it.
Took it to the range today, and ran approx 100 rounds through it. It has fed virtually anything without fail (about 500 rounds so far) and likes the cheap(er) American Gunner 115gr (Hornady XTP) although the Sig 124gr shoots very well.
Easy to cycle, clean and reassemble. You may want a Uplula or other mag loader... Makes stuffing them little 9mm into the mag a lot easier. Speaking of mags, you may want a couple of the 7-round mags; gives the pinky something to hold onto.
Very easy to CC. I didn't find the sights to be an issue, but they can be swapped if not to your liking. Sight radius is small, but easier than a M36 or 2" K frame. It points very well for me. Learning the 1911 has been a easy transition, actually easier to shoot than the P220/P245. Shooting it really makes me appreciate a good 1911. The slight sweep of the 938 trigger is very much like the inline 1911 trigger, but when I go from the 938 to my Officer-sized 1911, the latter shoots much crisper.
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Tinman, do you have trouble with the slide on the Glock 43. You mention that in your OP but not in the update yesterday. Does the Glock have that light of a recoil spring to make a difference to your hand?
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I own the M&P Shield, Ruger SR9c, Kahr PM9 and wear cargo pants all the time (big, deep pockets).

No way could I see my Shield or SR9c as a "pocket gun", too big. They are good hip-holster guns.

I do carry the PM9 as a pocket gun in a Robert Mika pocket holster and it is as big as I could fit and draw without problems due to pocket vs. gun size.

The question that none of us can answer for you is relative to your hand problems. All my M&Ps have had trigger jobs by an excellent gunsmith (not Apex jobs) and are 4.5-6# (Shield is 6).
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Tinman, do you have trouble with the slide on the Glock 43. You mention that in your OP but not in the update yesterday. Does the Glock have that light of a recoil spring to make a difference to your hand?
It is definitely easier than my LC9. I look for it to loosen up more as I put more rounds through it.
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Pistol...S&W Shield .... Revolver.... S&W bodyguard 38
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I have some arthritis in my right hand, I carry a j frame 638 with an Apex spring kit installed. Highly recommend it, or the 642 with the spring kit installed. No slide to rack, less pain to the hand than the lc9s or the bg380.

I was GIVEN a bg380 no-laser. I shot one mag through it and it was so painful I'll never shoot it again. I'll carry it occasionally.

I enjoy shooting my 638, twice a month, 100 rounds at a time. Doesn't bother my hand at all.
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Put 125 rounds thru the G43 on my first outing. Sore when I was done, but manageable.
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I'm not a big fan of pocket pistols and neither was an article I read somewhere reliable (too long ago to remember) that pocket pistols aren't known for being a reliable protection weapon; way too much happening in a very short distance so jams are expected.

I'd stick with your LCR (I have one), they're reliable, decent trigger pull, and very light weight for in the pocket. Heck when you load one, it just about doubles the weight.
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