Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > General Topics > Concealed Carry & Self Defense

Notices

Concealed Carry & Self Defense All aspects of Concealed and Open Carry, Home and Self Defense.


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-10-2015, 09:01 AM
ChattanoogaPhil's Avatar
ChattanoogaPhil ChattanoogaPhil is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 14,661
Likes: 7,937
Liked 20,623 Times in 5,958 Posts
Default You should not carry a gun.

I'm learning that there are so many times and places I should not carry a gun I'm going to have to start making a list.

Carrying a gun in the home or having access to a gun in certain rooms like a bathroom indicates paranoia or otherwise suffering a mental disorder.

Never carry a gun if you might have to stop somewhere that requires the gun being left in the vehicle. Leave the gun at home.

Don't carry a gun to social gatherings. Someone at the party might be offeded by guns. Leave gun in vehicle before going in. Ooooops don't do that either.

To bear arms is a God given right, but carrying a gun in a church is profane.

Do not open carry. Only idiots open carry.
  #2  
Old 07-10-2015, 09:27 AM
Deftone's Avatar
Deftone Deftone is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Auburn, CA
Posts: 60
Likes: 228
Liked 71 Times in 26 Posts
Default

Thanks for the advice.
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 07-10-2015, 09:29 AM
cgt4570's Avatar
cgt4570 cgt4570 is offline
SWCA Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Mount Carmel, TN USA
Posts: 3,171
Likes: 1,628
Liked 3,178 Times in 933 Posts
Default

Great post. They can't be offended by what they don't know is there. They can't steal what they can't find. Unless a business is doing pat-downs or has a metal detector at the door, if I absolutely can't avoid said business for some reason (like visiting someone in a hospital), they can just assume I'm not carrying against their wishes. If a life-death situation arises while I'm at that business, a misdemeanor civil infraction for carrying where prohibited will be the least of my concerns. It's always better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
As for church, I'll leave it up to God to judge whether I'm profane for worshipping while armed. :-)

After having concealed carry permits for 20 years, I feel I am pretty adept at avoiding my weapon 'printing' or being noticed. I've had plenty of friendly conversations in public with law enforcement personnel while legally carrying and I've never got 'that look' from any of them. Sometimes I have to carry less gun than I prefer, but any gun (that you are proficient with) is better than no gun at all.

And what I carry rig I use while in the shower is nobody's business. Just because I think they're out to get me doesn't mean they're not. :-)
__________________
Chris
SWCA #2243 SWHF #292

Last edited by cgt4570; 07-10-2015 at 09:31 AM.
  #4  
Old 07-10-2015, 09:31 AM
Hillbilly77 Hillbilly77 is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,183
Likes: 11,067
Liked 18,500 Times in 4,231 Posts
Default

You've convinced me.

I'm selling off all of my guns, and from now on I'm just gonna carry a cop.
  #5  
Old 07-10-2015, 09:42 AM
Rick_A's Avatar
Rick_A Rick_A is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Northern GA
Posts: 2,841
Likes: 2,025
Liked 4,843 Times in 1,479 Posts
Default

I carry wherever it's not prohibited by law (although I don't agree with that, either). It's absolutely ridiculous that most legislation assumes the criminal element cares what the law is. That type of feel good legislation has passed only to appease the liberal progressive communist regime.

Like any tool, it's useless if it's not with you when needed. My own siblings think there's something wrong with folks that carry. Nothing wrong with exercising your rights. Use them or lose them.

I have never "needed" a gun, and have been perfectly capable of defending myself without one, but if worse comes to worse it's worth being prepared. Guns stuck in the safe don't do much good.

I ignore the lame signs and policies claiming company policies have precident over my livelihood. It's none of their business.
The Following 7 Users Like Post:
  #6  
Old 07-10-2015, 09:54 AM
sodacan sodacan is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,426
Likes: 1,108
Liked 5,154 Times in 1,581 Posts
Default

One shouldn't really need a list, just common sense.
The Following 7 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 07-10-2015, 09:56 AM
66 shooter's Avatar
66 shooter 66 shooter is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: North Carolina Mountains
Posts: 215
Likes: 100
Liked 173 Times in 72 Posts
Default

To each, their own....Live And Let Live...I say
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 07-10-2015, 11:23 AM
Old cop Old cop is online now
US Veteran
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 7,813
Likes: 4,242
Liked 15,216 Times in 4,165 Posts
Default

I DO carry in social situations, if/when in a church or in several other places mentioned here b/c I can't accurately predict when I might need my gun. Nobody knows I'm carrying and I intend to keep it that way. It's nobody's business but mine.
__________________
Old Cop
LEO (Ret.)
  #9  
Old 07-10-2015, 11:43 AM
RobzGuns's Avatar
RobzGuns RobzGuns is offline
US Veteran
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,880
Likes: 1,673
Liked 2,345 Times in 1,111 Posts
Default

LOL... This got me thinking of the old Jeff Foxworthy "You might be a Redneck" list.
  • If you think Common Sense should cover where and when you can/should carry a gun... you should not carry the gun.
  • If you think that people in a restaurant will panic by the sight of your firearm on your side... you should not carry the gun.

BTW: The 'Whataburger' Hamburger chain corporate office made a statement the other day, saying that when TX goes Licensed Open Carry in Jan, they will NOT allow OC in their Franchises.

Sorry for the Hijack... Back to the list!!

Last edited by RobzGuns; 07-10-2015 at 11:48 AM.
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #10  
Old 07-10-2015, 12:00 PM
ladder13 ladder13 is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 30,822
Likes: 58,073
Liked 53,110 Times in 16,567 Posts
Default

Make sure you keep the sauce from sticking to the pot.

__________________
Sure you did
  #11  
Old 07-10-2015, 12:02 PM
Duckford Duckford is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 575
Likes: 563
Liked 920 Times in 303 Posts
Default

One of the mottoes of 4chan was "only a fool would take anything said here seriously", and no matter what you think of such a site or the other seedier places on the net, I believe the words are worth repeating and are relevant to some extent everywhere, and in every forum. Yes, there is a lot of good information here, some people who really do add useful information or insight into the topics discussed, and there is definitely something to learn in this fine forum. That being said, one must also ignore a lot of the insane or inflammatory comments made by the peanut gallery, or introduced by sly trolls.

Some threads and topics may be about more scientific, objective topics, in which certain facts may be presented and taken into consideration. However, there are an endless amount of "Do you x?" "Do you think y is a good idea?" or the very so classic, slam your skull into the wall stupid "x is better than y"threads that are a cancer upon every web forum since the days of Usenet. They are purely "fun" threads and topics, intended to start flame wars, rile up subjective opinions, and create general mayhem. There might be a few brave and wise men who venture into such threads to offer a few bits of intelligent, objective advice into such topics, but you will soon realize that bulk of it is flame posts by very agitated people who hold very strong opinions about such a topic, or flaming trolls who enjoy the whole hot mess.

In short, in an open forum, you will see the free ideas of many diverse people. This will cause conflict, which inevitably leads to flaming and name calling. This will cause the less than reasonable people to escalate things to rather uncivil levels, and leave the more reasonable people leave felling insulted or alienated.

If you carry a .22lr you are crazy for carrying a toy. Carry a .44 magnum, you are an out of control vigilante, looking for a fight, with no regard for those who stand behind your victim. You like to carry a reload for your carry pistol? That's fine... if you're Rambo. Keep a gun in your bathroom? What are you, a wanna be James Bond? If you don't put onions into your chili mix, you are not only wrong about making chili, you are obviously insane with a break with reality for disagreeing with me.

1. Ignore inflammatory threads
2. Ignore inflammatory posts
3. Realize this is an internet forum where anyone, regardless if they own a firearm or not, carry one, leave one in the house for self defense, if they are a mall ninja, a gun controller, or wayward troll, can post whatever they want, not all opinions here are intelligent or relevant, and all posts should be taken with heaping spoonfuls of salt.

If you ever find yourself wound up, step away from the keyboard, and go do something productive somewhere else. Don't respond to trolls of flamers, don't make controversial threads popular.
  #12  
Old 07-10-2015, 12:12 PM
Trons Trons is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 180
Likes: 71
Liked 98 Times in 51 Posts
Default

I thought OP was joking because of all the posts recently that recommend not carrying in certain circumstances.
  #13  
Old 07-10-2015, 12:17 PM
madmikeb's Avatar
madmikeb madmikeb is offline
SWCA Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Midcoast Maine
Posts: 1,575
Likes: 2,055
Liked 2,195 Times in 601 Posts
Default

You people all have guns?!

I guess I didn't realize what I was keeping for company.
  #14  
Old 07-10-2015, 12:36 PM
gregintenn gregintenn is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Lafayette, Tennessee
Posts: 6,926
Likes: 6,833
Liked 8,936 Times in 2,910 Posts
Default

There's probably a lot of things I shouldn't do.
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #15  
Old 07-10-2015, 12:47 PM
rog8732 rog8732 is offline
US Veteran
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Southern Virginia
Posts: 1,961
Likes: 9,647
Liked 2,427 Times in 1,028 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trons View Post
I thought OP was joking because of all the posts recently that recommend not carrying in certain circumstances.
I believe the correct response to your reply Trons is : You nailed it !
__________________
wanna do right-- not right now
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #16  
Old 07-10-2015, 12:58 PM
Protected One's Avatar
Protected One Protected One is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,400
Likes: 3,245
Liked 4,624 Times in 1,697 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChattanoogaPhil View Post
I'm learning that there are so many times and places I should not carry a gun I'm going to have to start making a list.

Carrying a gun in the home or having access to a gun in certain rooms like a bathroom indicates paranoia or otherwise suffering a mental disorder.

Never carry a gun if you might have to stop somewhere that requires the gun being left in the vehicle. Leave the gun at home.

Don't carry a gun to social gatherings. Someone at the party might be offeded by guns. Leave gun in vehicle before going in. Ooooops don't do that either.

To bear arms is a God given right, but carrying a gun in a church is profane.

Do not open carry. Only idiots open carry.

...but, but if we don't carry our guns anymore think of all the subject we WON'T be able to discuss anymore: Open carry vs concealed, chambered vs unchambered, reciprocity laws, adequate capacity! NO!!! It's too much to give up! I WILL CONTINUE TO CARRY...EVEN IN CHURCH!
__________________
Stay protected my friends.
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #17  
Old 07-10-2015, 01:14 PM
ladder13 ladder13 is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 30,822
Likes: 58,073
Liked 53,110 Times in 16,567 Posts
Default

Can we add our own?
__________________
Sure you did
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #18  
Old 07-10-2015, 01:22 PM
Bigdog357's Avatar
Bigdog357 Bigdog357 is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Midwest
Posts: 617
Likes: 3,345
Liked 2,473 Times in 511 Posts
Default

What, an inflammatory thread about inflammatory threads. I like it
__________________
Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda
  #19  
Old 07-10-2015, 01:31 PM
ISCS Yoda's Avatar
ISCS Yoda ISCS Yoda is online now
US Veteran
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 8,447
Likes: 2,499
Liked 13,204 Times in 4,577 Posts
Default

OP Phil was being sarcastic, I am sure of that.

But I'm not carrying a gun anymore. It scares my dogs.....
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #20  
Old 07-10-2015, 01:46 PM
ChattanoogaPhil's Avatar
ChattanoogaPhil ChattanoogaPhil is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 14,661
Likes: 7,937
Liked 20,623 Times in 5,958 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ladder13 View Post
Can we add our own?
Absolutely! That's what the list is for.
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #21  
Old 07-10-2015, 01:49 PM
Biginge Biginge is offline
SWCA Member
Absent Comrade
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of San Antone
Posts: 2,572
Likes: 3,408
Liked 4,680 Times in 1,158 Posts
Default

I carry everywhere I go. If it is prohibited I just don't go there. Last time I went to jury duty I informed the judge that I would not be back until the county provided a place for me to store my handgun while doing my civic duty. I will NOT leave it in my car. I have needed my gun once. I am sure glad I had it. I simply will no longer go where it is illegal. If family/friend is in hospital I might make an exception.

Being retired for quite a while has made this more plausible than those that are still working.
__________________
Bill
Dis B. Leaf
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #22  
Old 07-10-2015, 02:40 PM
wbraswell's Avatar
wbraswell wbraswell is offline
SWCA Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: East Texas
Posts: 6,630
Likes: 3,146
Liked 6,360 Times in 2,492 Posts
Default

Do not carry while tubing down a whitewater river. Just don't do it. You'll either lose it or ruin it.
__________________
Wayne
Torn & Frayed
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #23  
Old 07-10-2015, 02:59 PM
GWK4667's Avatar
GWK4667 GWK4667 is offline
US Veteran
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Central IN.
Posts: 142
Likes: 57
Liked 195 Times in 71 Posts
Default

After a church shooting in Texas several years ago the preacher ask how many of the congregation were carrying right then - - - right at 10% - - - she said thanks she is glad we are there to protect her and the rest of the congregation!
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #24  
Old 07-10-2015, 03:04 PM
wheelgunguy's Avatar
wheelgunguy wheelgunguy is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 268
Likes: 369
Liked 326 Times in 140 Posts
Default

Don't open carry a long gun. Even if it's effective in getting handgun open carry legalized after over 100 years of being illegal.

Sorry Texas.
  #25  
Old 07-10-2015, 03:25 PM
Hillbilly77 Hillbilly77 is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,183
Likes: 11,067
Liked 18,500 Times in 4,231 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wbraswell View Post
Do not carry while tubing down a whitewater river. Just don't do it. You'll either lose it or ruin it.
No, you can either carry a stainless gun or a plastic one. They can't rust.
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #26  
Old 07-10-2015, 03:36 PM
getoff getoff is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: FL Panhandle these days
Posts: 1,433
Likes: 941
Liked 526 Times in 270 Posts
Default

i think i'm going back to my club... wood does not rust, its not polymer so no stigma, and its not black so its not evil! for back up, i'm gonna carry a water balloon in each front pocket and a whistle around my neck for when i need extra help.
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #27  
Old 07-10-2015, 03:41 PM
wbraswell's Avatar
wbraswell wbraswell is offline
SWCA Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: East Texas
Posts: 6,630
Likes: 3,146
Liked 6,360 Times in 2,492 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hillbilly77 View Post
No, you can either carry a stainless gun or a plastic one. They can't rust.
The word stainless is a likelyhood, not a certainty. They both can be lost, and one can be broken on the rocks. Plus you can't hit anything in white water.
__________________
Wayne
Torn & Frayed
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #28  
Old 07-10-2015, 04:05 PM
Xfuzz's Avatar
Xfuzz Xfuzz is online now
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Texas Gulf Coast...
Posts: 5,530
Likes: 9,965
Liked 23,055 Times in 3,244 Posts
Default

Do not carry a gun while your frying bacon naked.
The Following 8 Users Like Post:
  #29  
Old 07-10-2015, 04:12 PM
RobzGuns's Avatar
RobzGuns RobzGuns is offline
US Veteran
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,880
Likes: 1,673
Liked 2,345 Times in 1,111 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by getoff View Post
i think i'm going back to my club... wood does not rust, its not polymer so no stigma, and its not black so its not evil!
Man... My baseball bat is black... Looks like I can't even carry that.

Looks like it's time to make a Buford Pusser Walking Tall Commemorative landscaping timber.
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #30  
Old 07-10-2015, 05:11 PM
cmort666's Avatar
cmort666 cmort666 is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Rocky River, OH, USA
Posts: 9,451
Likes: 1,271
Liked 9,184 Times in 3,621 Posts
Default

One of the most valuable things my father ever taught me was to not worry about the stupid opinions of dopes who couldn't give a damn if I lived or died. That advice has kept me alive and out of jail for quite a while.
  #31  
Old 07-10-2015, 05:16 PM
cmort666's Avatar
cmort666 cmort666 is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Rocky River, OH, USA
Posts: 9,451
Likes: 1,271
Liked 9,184 Times in 3,621 Posts
Default

Years ago, when she found out I had my Ohio CHL, my mother told me she didn't want me to carry.

I just asked her if she intended to follow me around and act as my human shield. She replied "no", and that was the last such request on her part.
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #32  
Old 07-10-2015, 05:23 PM
sellersm's Avatar
sellersm sellersm is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CO
Posts: 598
Likes: 341
Liked 335 Times in 181 Posts
Default

But, but, but what if I meet a bear?

I guess this thread is kind of like breathing: they should outlaw breathing, because, you know, 100% of all people that breathe end up dead.
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #33  
Old 07-10-2015, 05:40 PM
fixitfred fixitfred is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Metro Atlanta, GA
Posts: 149
Likes: 70
Liked 123 Times in 56 Posts
Default

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion even if it's wrong.

I didn't see anyone mention the recent SC church shooting in which nine people lost their lives. I don't know if it's legal to carry to church in SC but if there had been one profane individual amongst them how many could have been saved?
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #34  
Old 07-10-2015, 05:50 PM
ClayCow ClayCow is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 966
Likes: 29
Liked 283 Times in 193 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChattanoogaPhil View Post
I'm learning that there are so many times and places I should not carry a gun I'm going to have to start making a list.

Carrying a gun in the home or having access to a gun in certain rooms like a bathroom indicates paranoia or otherwise suffering a mental disorder.

Never carry a gun if you might have to stop somewhere that requires the gun being left in the vehicle. Leave the gun at home.

Don't carry a gun to social gatherings. Someone at the party might be offeded by guns. Leave gun in vehicle before going in. Ooooops don't do that either.

To bear arms is a God given right, but carrying a gun in a church is profane.

Do not open carry. Only idiots open carry.
Bearing a gun is not a god given right. I dont see anywhere where the constitution states that its a god given right.
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #35  
Old 07-10-2015, 05:57 PM
Watchdog Watchdog is offline
Banned
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 12,572
Likes: 21,054
Liked 32,463 Times in 7,773 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobzGuns View Post
The 'Whataburger' Hamburger chain corporate office made a statement the other day, saying that when TX goes Licensed Open Carry in Jan, they will NOT allow OC in their Franchises.
Another tempest in a teapot. Just as you will have the right to open carry at the beginning of 2016, the Whataburger chain will continue to have the right to tell you that it won't be allowed in their places of business. That's their right.

But I won't be surprised to see a few whiny ten-cent lawsuits filed by Texas gun owners who feel their rights are being trampled on cause they can't carry a gun while they're eating their junk burger and drinking their chocolate shake.

Speaking for myself, a burger (or anything else) prepared by a fast food "restaurant" simply ain't worth the trouble.
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #36  
Old 07-10-2015, 06:44 PM
RobzGuns's Avatar
RobzGuns RobzGuns is offline
US Veteran
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,880
Likes: 1,673
Liked 2,345 Times in 1,111 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClayCow View Post
Bearing a gun is not a god given right. I dont see anywhere where the constitution states that its a god given right.
I believe that argument has been debated & covered extremely well in many of the Closed/Locked threads below (especially the recently locked OC v CC thread.)
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #37  
Old 07-10-2015, 07:03 PM
ladder13 ladder13 is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 30,822
Likes: 58,073
Liked 53,110 Times in 16,567 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmort666 View Post
One of the most valuable things my father ever taught me was to not worry about the stupid opinions of dopes who couldn't give a damn if I lived or died. That advice has kept me alive and out of jail for quite a while.
Your father was a wise man.
__________________
Sure you did
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #38  
Old 07-10-2015, 07:06 PM
Muss Muggins's Avatar
Muss Muggins Muss Muggins is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: bootheel of Missouri
Posts: 16,895
Likes: 6,993
Liked 28,133 Times in 8,918 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClayCow View Post
Bearing a gun is not a god given right. I dont see anywhere where the constitution states that its a god given right.
You've not read the Constitution in conjunction with the Declaration, as intended. The god given inalienable rights are supported by the right to keep and bear arms . . .
__________________
Wisdom comes thru fear . . .
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #39  
Old 07-10-2015, 09:06 PM
ClayCow ClayCow is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 966
Likes: 29
Liked 283 Times in 193 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muss Muggins View Post
You've not read the Constitution in conjunction with the Declaration, as intended. The god given inalienable rights are supported by the right to keep and bear arms . . .
Im afraid youre reaching. Can you maybe expand more to connect the dots? All im reading is God given in alienable rights such as life liberty and pursuit of happiness. If youre trying to state 2a falls under such as, then we'll get nowhere

Last edited by ClayCow; 07-10-2015 at 09:16 PM.
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #40  
Old 07-10-2015, 09:19 PM
jasperbob42 jasperbob42 is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 8
Likes: 1
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Laws regarding firearms are NOT god given but cast in our Constitution where the term god is not even mentioned. Hope this fact does not provoke too massive an outcry. But fact is fact.
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #41  
Old 07-10-2015, 09:27 PM
jasperbob42 jasperbob42 is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 8
Likes: 1
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Default

If one must read the Declaration of Independence ALONG with the
Constitution then how did women get the vote? The D of I does say 'all men'-- must have been a translation problem with 18th century English.
Oh well.
  #42  
Old 07-10-2015, 09:44 PM
jag312's Avatar
jag312 jag312 is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Minden, Nevada
Posts: 3,627
Likes: 2,014
Liked 5,296 Times in 1,736 Posts
Default

I never carry my gun. I tie a string to the trigger guard and drag it behind me.
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #43  
Old 07-10-2015, 09:51 PM
ClayCow ClayCow is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 966
Likes: 29
Liked 283 Times in 193 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jasperbob42 View Post
Laws regarding firearms are NOT god given but cast in our Constitution where the term god is not even mentioned. Hope this fact does not provoke too massive an outcry. But fact is fact.
Not sure what youre getting at
  #44  
Old 07-10-2015, 10:04 PM
ContinentalOp's Avatar
ContinentalOp ContinentalOp is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,315
Likes: 13,115
Liked 12,802 Times in 4,228 Posts
Default

Never carry a gun around people who have no sense of humor.
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #45  
Old 07-10-2015, 10:55 PM
ladder13 ladder13 is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 30,822
Likes: 58,073
Liked 53,110 Times in 16,567 Posts
Default

GOD bless the USA
__________________
Sure you did
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #46  
Old 07-10-2015, 11:34 PM
bigggbbruce's Avatar
bigggbbruce bigggbbruce is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Where this month?
Posts: 3,604
Likes: 264
Liked 4,215 Times in 1,714 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClayCow View Post
Bearing a gun is not a god given right. I dont see anywhere where the constitution states that its a god given right.
God given right in the constitution.

God given right. The day you were born you suck air.
The day you die you stop sucking air.

Was there something else god given.
  #47  
Old 07-11-2015, 12:20 AM
pineappleshooter's Avatar
pineappleshooter pineappleshooter is offline
US Veteran
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: S.E. PA
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 71
Liked 1,167 Times in 521 Posts
Default

If I am dressed, I am armed. I try to avoid places I can't carry - like NJ.
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #48  
Old 07-11-2015, 01:07 AM
shouldazagged shouldazagged is offline
Absent Comrade
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Louisville, KY, USA
Posts: 19,336
Likes: 53,737
Liked 38,387 Times in 11,802 Posts
Default

You do it, or not, your way. Your business. I'll do it, or not, my way. My business. That approach pretty well eliminates any necessity of fulminating, sarcasm and debate that can't be resolved.

Guess I'm too tired tonight for this kind of dead horse beating. I'll leave you guys to it.
__________________
Oh well, what the hell.
  #49  
Old 07-11-2015, 01:12 AM
Kanewpadle's Avatar
Kanewpadle Kanewpadle is offline
US Veteran
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Wrong side of Washington
Posts: 10,192
Likes: 13,015
Liked 17,135 Times in 5,146 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigggbbruce View Post
God given right in the constitution.

God given right. The day you were born you suck air.
The day you die you stop sucking air.

Was there something else god given.
Yes. The God given right to self preservation. To protect ourselves and family by any means necessary.
__________________
Life Is A Gift. Defend it!
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #50  
Old 07-11-2015, 08:07 AM
ClayCow ClayCow is offline
Member
You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun. You should not carry a gun.  
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 966
Likes: 29
Liked 283 Times in 193 Posts
Default

Well i cant fight that ridiculous logic. "It is because you say it is" thought we were smarter than that
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Will Texas Finally Pass an Open Carry Law for Concealed Carry Licensees BPNovum 2nd Amendment Forum 294 05-09-2018 08:43 PM
open carry/concealed carry dilemma JJD0527 Concealed Carry & Self Defense 56 01-27-2016 05:22 PM
Talk Major...carry minor.. if you carry at all growr The Lounge 86 01-23-2016 10:40 PM
Update: OH Restaurant Carry Law/Maine Park Carry/Seeking Additional Info Gary Slider Concealed Carry & Self Defense 0 09-30-2011 06:49 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:48 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)