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Old 10-03-2015, 10:17 PM
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Question Best Weapon for Home Defense against Home Invasion?

I did a search here, and found many, many threads that closely relate to this topic, but none that focus on the best "weapon" vs the the best gun, ammo, etc. Please forgive me if I missed the thread you think addresses this. Please post a link to it, and we will all go there to continue this discussion.

I have asked this question many times, to a number of different people, and I've gotten a wide variety of answers, as you might guess.

I recently ran across this blog that I thought was very well thought-out, and at least gives us a lot to think about:

Best Weapon For Home Defense

I would request that everyone who responds to this thread to please take the time to read this blog first.

To wet your appetite, here are some choices offered by the author:
  1. 12-gauge shotgun
  2. 20-gauge shotgun
  3. an AR-15
  4. a pocket pistol (of your choosing)

OK, here's a clue:
What is the best camera?

I do apologize if this is somewhat of a redunant subject/thread. But I think we have people who have never shot a firearm, never owned a gun, who are now becoming concerned enough about their safety, and that of their loved ones, that they are now asking this important question.

If you know of blogs/articles/books/etc that address this issue in a thoughtful manner, please post a link to them.
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A 12 ga. Coach gun is hard to beat, but its going to have to be something that is there, as in RIGHT there, since a home invasion is usually swift and violent.
No time to open a safe or dig a gun out of a closet.
On your person is the best bet, so that leans towards a carry gun which a 12 ga. is not.
That leaves an adequate caliber handgun that is on or close to you that you're proficient with.
The choices are limitless.
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IMO, a shotgun is a Jack of all Trades. By selecting different types of loads you can nearly handle anything. You can get more different types of loads for a 12 than a 20 and they tend to be cheaper. I was a Cop 35 years, where and when I could I had a shotgun with me.
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Almost every comment I have seen about home defense advocates a shotgun for home defense. That is true if you have some advanced warning that an invasion is imminent. So if you live out in the country where you can see or hear a vehicle approaching a mile away, the shotgun or rifle may be your best defense. If you are asleep in your upstairs bedroom and the dog barking wakes you up and then you hear the front door being kicked in, by all means grab your shotgun. But what about the scenario where you are at home in town, sitting in your recliner watching TV when a masked gunman kicks in your door and rushes in? What about when the doorbell rings and you go to see who it is? Are you going to take the shotgun with you and then try to figure out what to do with it while you buy girl scout cookies? A shotgun is great to have and I have one in my bedroom with a magazine full of buckshot. But it is the handgun that sits on the nightstand next to my bed. It is the handgun on the end table next to my chair. It is the handgun that I take with me to answer the door during normal waking hours.

My suggestion is the largest calibre handgun you can shoot accurately, are very familiar with and can bring into action immediately. For some, that may be a 22 revolver. For some, that may be a 45ACP 1911 or a 6 inch 44 Magnum (if you live in the country).

So the one on my nightstand is the 4 inch 8 shot 357 Magnum that I carry on duty. The one on the end table is a 2 inch 5 shot 357 Magnum that I can drop into my pocket if the doorbell does turn out to be girl scouts. My favorite are Peanut Butter Patties.
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12 gauge loaded with 00 Buck.
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If you first response to a break-in or home invasion is the gun in your pocket then you're starting off way behind the curve. You need layers of protection. We have a yard full of Rottweilers, behind a fence and gate you'll need to climb or figure out how to open. This gives us time to get ready.
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Almost every comment I have seen about home defense advocates a shotgun for home defense. That is true if you have some advanced warning that an invasion is imminent. So if you live out in the country where you can see or hear a vehicle approaching a mile away, the shotgun or rifle may be your best defense. If you are asleep in your upstairs bedroom and the dog barking wakes you up and then you hear the front door being kicked in, by all means grab your shotgun. But what about the scenario where you are at home in town, sitting in your recliner watching TV when a masked gunman kicks in your door and rushes in? What about when the doorbell rings and you go to see who it is? Are you going to take the shotgun with you and then try to figure out what to do with it while you buy girl scout cookies? A shotgun is great to have and I have one in my bedroom with a magazine full of buckshot. But it is the handgun that sits on the nightstand next to my bed. It is the handgun on the end table next to my chair. It is the handgun that I take with me to answer the door during normal waking hours.

My suggestion is the largest calibre handgun you can shoot accurately, are very familiar with and can bring into action immediately. For some, that may be a 22 revolver. For some, that may be a 45ACP 1911 or a 6 inch 44 Magnum (if you live in the country).

So the one on my nightstand is the 4 inch 8 shot 357 Magnum that I carry on duty. The one on the end table is a 2 inch 5 shot 357 Magnum that I can drop into my pocket if the doorbell does turn out to be girl scouts. My favorite are Peanut Butter Patties.
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There is no one size fits all answer. A home invader could be a confused drunk or it could be Attila and his hordes come to pillage. It could be at three a.m. while you dream or at literal high noon. Depending on what "home" is the range could be 3 feet or 300 yards.
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The best home defense firearm is almost useless if you don't take steps to prevent a home invasion.

If I kick in your door while you're asleep or on the toilet, or in the shower, how far do you think I would make into your house before you react?

Answer? At least half way.

Those aren't good odds and the playing field just became even.

Instead of reacting, we need to be proactive. Simply having what we think is the right firearm is not enough.
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Your first line of defense is preventive measures. That's large dogs, security cameras, wrought iron door and window guards, lighting, area cleared around windows and doors. Even trip alarms.

Make your house uninviting to perps. Don't leave stuff in cars and yards. Cut up boxes of valuable stuff and stuff in trash bags. Don't talk about the goodies you got and don't post it online.

Second line of defense will be your firearms.
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First grab is a pistol, just for speed. If time allows it would be put aside for a short 12 ga. pump
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I nearly lost interest when the writer declared a 12 gauge is only for 300 pounders. Granted, my wife has trouble managing one, but I'm not impressed by obvious exaggeration to make your point.

For me, I live far out, off the main road, literally surrounded by woods on all sides. My biggest day to day concern is outdoor critters... coyotes, bobcats, bear, and the mountain lions the game commission keeps trying to tell us doesn't exist (despite the fact I know quite a few people including myself who have seen them on game cams or in person).

I also have a small beagle dachshund mix who would be a tasty snack for any of those critters.

When I'm in the house, I always have my model 681 or 1911 out and ready.... at least. Lately, it's been my mossberg 500 loaded with the first two rounds being buck and slug followed by 6 rounds of 000 buck. I literally keep it at my side, within a few feet when I'm in the house.

I think it would work on home invaders as well.

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A Straight Razor and a Hand Grenade Plus be nude inside your home. If and when the BG (s) kick in your door, the sight of you nude will pause Him/Her/Them long enough for you to employ your weapons.
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A Straight Razor and a Hand Grenade Plus be nude inside your home. If and when the BG (s) kick in your door, the sight of you nude will pause Him/Her/Them long enough for you to employ your weapons.
I like the way Jimmy thinks....but would prefer not to think about how he looks!


Ideal........ a select fire Thompson with a 50 rd drum magazine...that will feed 200gr "flying ashtrays" ............50 rds of .45cal goodness..........


If you are subject of a "home invasion".....from everything I've heard or read..... IMHO

the only gun that will do you any good is the one that's on you...if you can react in time....... or

are far enough from "the door" to get to another weapon...


If you are really worried about it happening in your neighborhood ....... my advice is move!!!
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It's the gun in my waist and the one in my pocket at the time of break in.
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As I sit here in my underwear typing my response while sipping my morning coffee my Glock 30 .45 cap is beside the keyboard.

I the blogger's ideas and conclusions were well thought through and good suggestions. My desk is 10 feet from my front door. I have a 12 gauge pump shotgun under my bed ruffle in the back corner of the house. The reality is that my shotgun is a great home defense weapon but not something I pack around the house as I go about my daily routine. Once dressed I do have my daily carry gun. Now If I could convince momma she should do the same.

Jimmy, I figure that as I sit here with my rather large white whale belly hanging out of my bathrobe I've got time to get a shot or three off while the bad guys laugh their last laugh.
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If you are really worried about it happening in your neighborhood ....... my advice is move!!!
I live in a very nice upper middle class quiet area. The kind of place where most would say not much bad happens. Most would be a surprised. I know we were a few years ago when one of our neighbors, three blocks away, got robbed and murdered for his gun collection in a home invasion. It was wakeup call and at that time I re-thought my home defense strategies.

Investigators looking for 32 guns stolen in Payson murder | KSL.com

The reality now here are home invasion robberies are happening more and more. Here in Utah lots of them are now happening in very nice neighborhoods where most would think that sort of thing just doesn't happen. These are areas where people still don't lock their doors.

The bad guys have figured out that those nice upper middle class and rich neighborhoods in the burbs and quiet communities are where the money and nice stuff to steal are kept.
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It totally depends upon YOUR specific situation.

For me, no long gun bigger than an MP-5 with a collapsed sliding stock is going to be appropriate.

For somebody with a house or one of those aircraft hangers they call "apartments" on "Law & Order: Unregistered Phaser Unit", a 10ga. goosegun might work.

Nothing bigger than a handgun is worth bothering with in my home. For somebody else, things could be entirely different.
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Hands down, a 12 gauge Remington 870 Wingmaster with an
18" barrel equipped with an extender tube, loaded with 00 buck.
Take the pain!

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"Move" WHERE???

Where did you want that doctor in Connecticut to move before his wife and daughters were raped and burned to death? He wasn't exactly living in Section 8 housing. Where should he have moved TO?

And for those of us who live in "bad" neighborhoods... and on modest incomes, where should we move... and can we count on some assistance from you?
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I'm in the camp that a handgun will cover all my concealed carry and home defense needs. I no longer even own an long-gun having sold off my AR and 870 awhile back. I can see the validity of using a long-gun if you have taken up a fixed location or have substantial lead time, but even then the need to go mobile or needing a free hand remains a strong possibility. Plus, most people do not keep their long-guns in a ready condition and there is a good chance there won't be ample time to make it ready and the situational stress of a home invasion coupled with compressed time frames make handling mistakes more likely. I like the idea of layers of protection as a deterrent and to gain valuable time. A security system, lighting and quality reinforced doors and windows go a long way in keeping you and your family safe. Your particular circumstances must be considered to help determine your individual plan and what weapons are the best fit.

Michael Janich validating the carry at home/small handgun idea...Concealed Carry Tactics to Neutralize a Home Invasion

Massad Ayoob gives his advice on the topic... The Massad Ayoob Chronicles, Part V - The Truth About Guns

David Kenik of Armed Response gives his take on long-gun or handgun in the home... Armed Response - Tips for the Armed Citizen: Long gun or pistol in the home?

Chris Costa of Magpul fame...


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I've never been the victim of a home invasion but have had to use a gun to defend my life during my LEO career. Given that experience I depend on the weapon I can shoot accurately under extreme stress, for me that's my Model 10 snub. No one can really be ready for the rush of fright that a situation like this can bring but you can at least prepare at the range.
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as I posted earlier on another thread I carry all day everyday...that is my personal preference....my choice of pistols vary as to what I am doing on any given day...as I got older I had to re-think things and change thing around the house as a primary defense...I now have storm doors that are locked at night as one more barrier between me and trouble....I installed a home monitoring system to warn me if someone breaks in while we are sleeping or let the neighbors know when we are gone....our society is changing and there are a lot more people now (good and bad).....I hope I am prepared for something that never happens to me or a loved one....find your own comfort zone
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In your post Chris brings up some good points about a suppressor and temporarily losing ones hearing. It's just my wife and I in the home. I would not expect her to use a 12 gauge, so his examples are relevant to many. Thankfully, it is not in my situation.
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As I too have posted in other threads like this, I don't carry at home. Don't need to. One is close by but the thought of lounging around or cleaning house with a gun strapped to me is unappealing.

Because I'm a professional locksmith I know what it takes to keep people out short of putting bars on the windows. And that's exactly what I have done.

Steel doors with the best deadbolts you can buy and 3M security film on all exterior glass. Expensive? Yes. Delay buying two or three guns and you can afford it.
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"Move" WHERE???

Where did you want that doctor in Connecticut to move before his wife and daughters were raped and burned to death? He wasn't exactly living in Section 8 housing. Where should he have moved TO?

And for those of us who live in "bad" neighborhoods... and on modest incomes, where should we move... and can we count on some assistance from you?

I was responding .......to the OP and his question.......but

1st to your point about the Conn. home invasion; anything is possible ..... anywhere...... which is why I have a cc permit and firearms.... but

if's he's raising the question ...... because he feels there is a high probability that he may face this situation.......IMHO the first and "best step" is to move!

ie how do I stop that truck bearing down on me...... the "best" thing to do is get out of the way.............

now lets talk about alternatives if the "best" way isn't available...
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if's he's raising the question ...... because he feels there is a high probability that he may face this situation.......IMHO the first and "best step" is to move!
  1. How do you assess that "probability"? If there's a sudden rash of home invasions in your neighborhood, do you instantly pack up and move? That happened in my neighborhood when I was a kid living on the south side of Chicago. How fast, and WHERE should we have moved... remembering that it was CHICAGO?
  2. What if you can't AFFORD to live in a "safe" neighborhood?
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Are we talking about which weapon is the best in a home invasion situation or if Mayflower is a good moving company?
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20 years ago there were certain areas of Chattanooga that were high crime, still are decades later. You don't have to be a criminologist to comprehend these things. Just an observer of reality.

When I relocated to Chattanooga I asked my new boss where is a good area to live. I asked a realtor the same question. Got the same answer. That's not by chance. This isn't something that requires a $20 billion dollar government study. These are things we understand as intelligent adults.

The idea that you necessarily pack up and move if someone breaks into a house in the neighborhood after 20 years of relatively no problems is just silly talk in search off a silly answer. Now if the neighborhood is in decline that's another matter. Low income or otherwise incapacitated people may just be stuck where they are.

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The best gun for home defense is one that serves the particular situation best. I carry an LCP in my pocket from morning till night. There is a 1911 on the nightstand and a 12ga along side the bed. Options....

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I didnt read past the AR since there's was already wrong information. A slow moving 12G round penetrate more than a fast moving 223. That has been proven over and over
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Are we talking about which weapon is the best in a home invasion situation or if Mayflower is a good moving company?

Dang.....if I know!!!

I don't run towards the gunfire....... I try to step out of the way of trucks bearing down on me....suggested that if you have a heightened level of concern that you face the probability/possibility of home invasion where you live think about living somewhere else.................

cmort666 seems to take offence at my suggestion ..... and overlook the comment in my last post that if that isn't a possibility then lets look at alternatives.....

Cmort666 you're right some can't afford to move..... other's can't afford the short barreled suppressed AR-15 someone will suggest.... or the MP-5 in your (Cmort666) post, or even a Mossburg 590/500.......some can't afford security systems or automatic lighting...... or a pack of Rottweilers....... adding bars to the windows and doors......all suggested in this thread.

Most of us are more likely to need a fire extinguisher than a gun to repel boarders.......there is no "right" answer to the OP's question/post.....as Cmort stated in his first post here....."it totally depends on your Specific situation."

I gave a suggestion...... I don't know the OP "specific situation"


Edit: Ditto to "Chat.......Phil's" comments post #31

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Easy AR or similar carbine, it's not even close.
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Anything is better than nothing for self defense in home invasion.
I have children so I can't and won't leave unattended firearms all over my house.

* Kitchen - knives/utensils.
* Family room - golf clubs or baseball bats in corners or behind
couches/chairs.
* Bedroom - nightstand pistol or under bed shotgun.
* Garage - what can't I use to defend myself.
* Anywhere else - I can try to make someone go to sleep
manually with my hands, if I get the opening.



Keeping the fingers crossed the day never happens, but if it does, just hoping I don't freeze up.
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It is also worth remembering the old saying, "Yay though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the meanest so and so in the valley..." At some point comes the realization that any unwanted visitors may well have far more to fear from you than you from them. Shrug.
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As others have mentioned, I find the advice to "just move" somewhat annoying. I see it frequently addressed to people who live in California or Connecticut or some other less than gun friendly state. Those giving that sort of advice apparently do not understand that gun ownership is down the list of priorities for me, and I assume others.

Family proximity, employment, financial concerns are all factors that the "just move" posters apparently do not take into consideration. I wonder if they would or could "just move" because of other issues.

I'm fortunate to live in a gun friendly state, but I have a home and property, friends and family, a part time job and volunteer work that I value. Not so easy to "just move."

Talk is cheap and free advice usually worth the price.
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Obviously, there can be no single answer to the OP's question. It will be as varied as each individual's situation. The perfect solution for a single man living in an apartment in Chicago is likely very different than for the family living on a 300 acre ranch in Montana. Logistics, local/state laws, population density, LEO response time, potential collateral damage, your friends and associates: the list could fill volumes, and each circumstance may require at least a slightly different approach.

I don't think it's necessary to turn your home into a fortress, just make it more trouble than it's worth. My neighborhood is an odd mix of horse properties, brand-new McMansions, and regular suburban homes. I'm sure not one of my neighbors has the same solutions as I do. Some may not even consider locking their doors during the day, and others have big dogs, big security systems, and big guns out the wazoo (my next-door neighbor is a gunsmith who works out of his home).

For myself, the 642 slips easily into the pocket of my cargo shorts for outdoor summer chores or jacket if I'm raking leaves or shoveling snow. Inside the home, I keep a bright flashlight on the nightstand and a model 64 locked in a quick-access lockbox. I want to be fully awake by the time I have a gun in my hand. I know my home. I know my neighbors. I know my abilities. I don't worry too much about it.

I do have smoke detectors and 4 fire extinguishers in the house and one in the garage (not counting the ones in the cars), however. In dealing with a fire, grabbing a fire extinguisher is the best immediate action. In dealing with intruders, barricading the family in our bedroom and dialing 911 could be the best option. I don't want to deal with getting a possible IV drug-user's blood out of my carpets if I don't have to.
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Due to the immediacy of NEED, the only really good answer is the one on your hip or in your pocket!

You use that one to fight your way to a long gun . . . if you have the time to do so, which is highly unlikely.
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Your first line of defense is preventive measures. That's large dogs, security cameras, wrought iron door and window guards, lighting, area cleared around windows and doors. Even trip alarms.

Make your house uninviting to perps. Don't leave stuff in cars and yards. Cut up boxes of valuable stuff and stuff in trash bags. Don't talk about the goodies you got and don't post it online.

Second line of defense will be your firearms.
This is great advice.
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As others have mentioned, I find the advice to "just move" somewhat annoying. I see it frequently addressed to people who live in California or Connecticut or some other less than gun friendly state. Those giving that sort of advice apparently do not understand that gun ownership is down the list of priorities for me, and I assume others.

Family proximity, employment, financial concerns are all factors that the "just move" posters apparently do not take into consideration. I wonder if they would or could "just move" because of other issues.

I'm fortunate to live in a gun friendly state, but I have a home and property, friends and family, a part time job and volunteer work that I value. Not so easy to "just move."

Talk is cheap and free advice usually worth the price.
Did you read the whole thread......??

The question is not about "gun ownership" or where "your priorities" are..... the OP seems to have some major concerns about "home invasion" ....if he/she feels home invasion is a real threat..... not some "esoteric" mall ninja wet dream....... the first thing to consider is should/can I move?

I'm not sure I would move unless I felt there was a clear and Present danger to my family........... but in the broader analysis of the "threat" I would at least have to ask the question and consider the option.......

kind of like Jewish community in Germany in 1936-39.... everyone needs to asses the risk and make decisions.....

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Almost every comment I have seen about home defense advocates a shotgun for home defense. That is true if you have some advanced warning that an invasion is imminent. So if you live out in the country where you can see or hear a vehicle approaching a mile away, the shotgun or rifle may be your best defense. If you are asleep in your upstairs bedroom and the dog barking wakes you up and then you hear the front door being kicked in, by all means grab your shotgun. But what about the scenario where you are at home in town, sitting in your recliner watching TV when a masked gunman kicks in your door and rushes in? What about when the doorbell rings and you go to see who it is? Are you going to take the shotgun with you and then try to figure out what to do with it while you buy girl scout cookies? A shotgun is great to have and I have one in my bedroom with a magazine full of buckshot. But it is the handgun that sits on the nightstand next to my bed. It is the handgun on the end table next to my chair. It is the handgun that I take with me to answer the door during normal waking hours.

My suggestion is the largest calibre handgun you can shoot accurately, are very familiar with and can bring into action immediately. For some, that may be a 22 revolver. For some, that may be a 45ACP 1911 or a 6 inch 44 Magnum (if you live in the country).

So the one on my nightstand is the 4 inch 8 shot 357 Magnum that I carry on duty. The one on the end table is a 2 inch 5 shot 357 Magnum that I can drop into my pocket if the doorbell does turn out to be girl scouts. My favorite are Peanut Butter Patties.
texmex, I have to agree with 99.9% of your post but I must take issue with one very important thing...has to be Thin Mints.
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The best home defence weapon is the first one you can reach when needed....
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I have to apologize, isn't this whole thing/thread about penis envy?

Come on, you got one, I got one, etc., etc., ad nauseum...

While I prefer to WIN, I will be happy to SURVIVE in this realm. Nothing is perfect...
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Two things I learned from my life with the military; Combat Readiness and Force Protection. You can not have one without the other, be it, banks; churches; schools; OR your home. You are either a "soft target" or a "hard target". Bad guys rarely pick hard targets, nine times out of ten they will hit a soft target or they take out a target of opportunity. A home invasion is usually a planned mission with someone having "cased the joint" or scouted the defenses : old people; single parents; kids home alone; etc. I have planned my defensive positions preferring to have the right weapons combat ready and prepositioned. A 12ga coach gun with 7 1/2 shot will shred anything in front of it at 10-12 ft., a S&W 1917 45acp, next to my bed with 2 clips. an M28 4" by my chair in the great room; a snub-nose 44sp in my office desk; a 44sp in my wife's office; an m36 in the kitchen; and a SN M10 for my wife. We practice our response (train) often. And finally, a PPK in the bathroom! HOOAH !
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I don't get the logic that it takes an inordinate amount of time to reach for your shotgun. It is right by my bed if need be. It takes no more time to grab it than it does my revolver on my night stand??
You are reaching for a Howitzer, in a fixed position. If it has to happen, I won't be sweeping my house. I will be in a crouched corner of my bedroom, waiting for the SOBs to come through the door. I could care less what they steal. It's all about surviving the encounter and keeping your family safe.

For all of us without multiple family members sleeping throughout the home.
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After having read the entire thread it obvious to me that only a handful of posters have (1) experienced a home invasion or (2) investigated a home invasion or (3) seriously studied the methods and dynamics of a home invasion.
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Would one of those posts include yours?
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After having read the entire thread it obvious to me that only a handful of posters have (1) experienced a home invasion or (2) investigated a home invasion or (3) seriously studied the methods and dynamics of a home invasion.
After having read your entire reply it is obvious to me you should either share your implied superior knowledge from the get-go or not reply at all.
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