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12-29-2015, 03:00 PM
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This speaks volumes...Sheriff's letter
From our neighbor to our North.
Ever think you would read such a letter ?
You may have to blow it up a bit..
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12-29-2015, 03:07 PM
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Common sense may prevail after all.
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12-29-2015, 04:28 PM
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Mabye gettig better.
Maybe now the anti's will stand up and show us how Unarmed Defense works. Put up or shut up. At least some officials are realizing there is a need and who will stand up and do it. Be sure and vote, that is a right also. No excuse not to.
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12-29-2015, 04:40 PM
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Sheriffs, as elected officials, can tell it like it is. Police chiefs are appointed, usually by a liberal local government, and have to tow the liberal line.
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Old cop has it right.
I was working undercover and making a bunch of drug busts in a college town. The city council told the Mayor who told the Chief of Police that the arrests were becoming an embarrassment.
I had to get a haircut and shave and go back to uniform patrol. First thing I did the next day was walk into the coffee shop where all of the hippies gathered and sat down among them.
They didn't recognize me until I spoke.. One with a sick look on his face said. "Oh **** man, how long you been a cop?"
I said "Two years." There were a lot of sick looks around me then. I had been a part of their coffee group for nearly a year.
Next day the coffee shop was empty and a bunch of kids dropped out of college right quick.
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Thanks for bringing this to the attention of this forum, I surely hope he (Sheriff Milton Anthony) is not in the minority in his thinking. Just wish the "Public" was as aware as some of us about the imminent danger our Country is facing. I Pray the USA regains consciousness before we are over run by these members of a "Non-Militant" Religion, although they are not the only ones seeking to cause the demise of the USA..
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Sadly, our world has become more violent. Terrorists, criminals and criminally insane mass murderers all have far too much freedom to operate. The Sheriff is right, the best response to a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun.
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12-30-2015, 01:01 PM
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It is very rewarding to read a statement like that from law enforcement, it proves some administrators can read and understand what is real and have the intestinal fortitude to be open and honest.
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12-30-2015, 01:11 PM
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I disagree, a little
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Originally Posted by K Frame Keith
Sadly, our world has become more violent. Terrorists, criminals and criminally insane mass murderers all have far too much freedom to operate. The Sheriff is right, the best response to a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun.
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I believe the world has always been a violent place. We're just more informed. Statistically speaking, it's still a long shot whether any of us will have to confront evil.
The problem is - when it DOES happen to you. My mother was the victim of a brutal mugging. How did she respond? By purchasing her first firearm, a S&W 15-2 (I still have and cherish it).
I contend it always has been appropriate to be prepared!
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I think legal conceal carry has always been backed by most sheriffs departments .. Least the sheriffs in my area are in favor .. The local city LEO's seem to be the ones against conceal carry.
That's in down state Illinois .. up around Chicago a completely different story .. Every one up there are against any kind of conceal carry.
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integrity?
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Originally Posted by Old cop
Sheriffs, as elected officials, can tell it like it is. Police chiefs are appointed, usually by a liberal local government, and have to tow the liberal line.
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These Police Chiefs are nothing more that political hacks and have no integrity. They violate their oaths to protect and defend the Constitution for their own profit and gain.
If they were honest and true they would push back on their political bosses/masters.
.....just say'n
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That's in down state Illinois .. up around Chicago a completely different story .. Every one up there are against any kind of conceal carry.[/QUOTE]
Whitrabit you know that's not true. Every Chicago alderman is, by city ordinance passed by the aldermen and approved by the mayor, allowed to carry a concealed firearm! They just don't want you and me to have one!
[Note: shortly after 911, when Illinois Army National Guardsmen were placed in airports, Chicago Mayor Dailey complained to the Governor about having armed persons in "his" airport who were not under his control. Fact.]
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01-10-2016, 07:23 PM
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I wonder how much it costs to be under his control?
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The only thing that could top that letter would be one from a sheriff in California,New York or Illinois.
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01-10-2016, 07:39 PM
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Some public servants like this Sheriff are mainly concerned with the safety of the public. Others are mainly concerned with the safety of their own careers.
And cops are like a box of chocolates. You never know what kind you are gonna get.
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NY Sherrifs reply
FYI Two NYS Sheriff's have called for any citizens with a valid ccw permit to be armed when ever they are out, one sheriff from Lewis county and the other from Ulster county
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Maybe now the anti's will stand up and show us how Unarmed Defense works.
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Unarmed defense only works if a victim who is present for one of these massacres is lucky. Armed defense gives the victim a fighting chance, and many of us prefer a fighting chance than to go out whimpering for our life to some murdering terrorist or other nutjob.
I do not know what delusion anti-gun/anti-defense people labor under, but the idea that taking guns away from honest people somehow works to prevent mass murders is certainly a delusion worthy of a diagnosis in the so-called DSM5, the diagnosis manual used by psychiatrists in this country.
Here is the way that works: "If you take away a gun from A, then B will not commit a mass murder."
I have recently seen some silly academic interviewed again about "changing the gun culture" in this country. He asserted that it would be ok if we keep target shooting and hunting, but the method is to go to a place allowing such activity, check a gun from inventory, and return it at the end of the experience. Just how this prevents a mass murderer or terrorist is not explained, but I get this sense that this nut job simply thinks that if all of the reasonable people change the terrorists will change. And this man teaches young impressionable kids.
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I've heard that some sheriffs here have foregone the $25 fingerprint fee to obtain their initial permits.
I think that's a good point for constitutional carry here.
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01-11-2016, 12:06 AM
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While there are foreign threats to our way of life, unfortunately the ones that affect us all are domestic.
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