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Old 01-15-2017, 01:01 PM
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I went and looked at a k6 yesterday. The salesman showing it to me said that alot of women have been buying it and only putting 5 rounds in it.
He said it has been making them feel safer just incase they accidentally pull the trigger. I couldn't believe what I was hearing!
I could just see someone loading there CCW and trying to get that empty chamber in the right spot by pulling the trigger with the gun loaded. Or if they had it loaded like they wanted it, then getting into a situation where they needed that one shot and only having time to pull the trigger one time instead of the two times it would take to get the first round.
The salesman looked at me like I was nuts when I was explaining what I thought of it.
What do you all think?
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Old 01-15-2017, 01:05 PM
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Imagine people like that work and represent the fire arms industry. Make you wonder WHO trained them. I'm sure you set him straight.

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Well a couple weeks I asked a salesman at "Big Box store" in the area about when the new Kimber revolver would come it. I was told I was uninformed and that Kimber does not make revolvers.

Well this uninformed old guy has no doubt forgotten more about guns & shooting than this "salesperson'' will ever know!



As far as loading only 5, my wife's uncle down in Florida about 20 years ago when he found out I was into guns proudly showed me his Model 10. It had 5 rounds in it for the "safety reason". I attempted to show him the safeness of the gun by explaining that the trigger has to be all the way back to make it go BANG but he knew better. At that point I changed the conversation!
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I can only guess that idea is rooted somewhere in the old practice of carrying a single action with the hammer down on an empty hole. Yea, I know, doesn't apply to anything remotely modern.

And no, I don't find it all that far fetched that someone that uniformed is standing behind a gun sales counter.
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It's hard for some to unlearn some morsel of knowledge which they assign a gospel-like importance to. I believe what the salesperson was confused about was the practice of having an empty chamber under the hammer in case the revolver is dropped. *******izing this into some sort of safety practice with a modern revolver is pointless. The problem is when these misinformed pass this misinformation on to a neophyte.

Trying to invent a new way to solve a non existent problem, especially when dealing with a firearm, is foolhardy and dangerous. You can't safely, accidentally pull the trigger... If that's a concern maybe you shouldn't have a firearm.
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I can only guess that idea is rooted somewhere in the old practice of carrying a single action with the hammer down on an empty hole. Yea, I know, doesn't apply to anything remotely modern.

And no, I don't find it all that far fetched that someone that uniformed is standing behind a gun sales counter.
Yes, I told my daughter on the way home that was common practice in the old Western days to have the hammer on a empty chamber. And that the cowboys had their burial money rolled up in it.
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Based on the OP I can't tell if the salesperson was advocating the practice or the women planned on doing it originally. I find it odd that the Kimber would be that popular among women. There are many similar guns for half the price. It would be no different with the Kimber or any other revolver. I'm pretty sure all modern revolvers are drop safe.

I agree it's not the best practice but, if loading 5 makes then feel safer and allows them to carry when they otherwise wouldn't, it's not the worst thing. Assuming you know that the first chamber is empty it takes about as much time to pull the trigger once as it does to disengage a safety. Of course you'd have to practice the draw, engaging the target, pulling the trigger and only then having a live round available. I've heard of people carrying autoloaders with an empty chamber. You're much more likely to goof up racking the slide and loading a round than you would be pulling the trigger once.

I wouldn't advocate the practice but if someone insisted on doing it anyways it is their choice. After carrying for a little while they might come to realize that guns don't just accidentally fire.

You also have to realize that your average $10 per hour gun sales clerk probably isn't an expert on guns or tactics.
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I find it odd that the Kimber would be that popular among women. There are many similar guns for half the price.
I don't. Gun stores are good at fleecing new shooters.
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It was a common practice among my NYPD relatives in the 70s before retention holsters became common. They had a rash of gun grabs of guys on foot patrol, and having an empty chamber on your first pull would distract the bad guy.
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Salesman, that says it all.
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