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Old 02-17-2017, 01:38 PM
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The night before last, I learned that the state of Delaware will no longer recognize the non-resident permits of the states that they have reciprocity agreements with.

To the best of my knowledge, Delaware is joining the states of: Florida, South Carolina, and Pennsylvania that will not recognize the non-resident permits of the state's they have reciprocity agreements with. I find it difficult to understand why non-resident permits are not recognized, since the qualifications (except for residency) are identical. Even the proposed national reciprocity bill being addressed in Congress doesn't address non-resident permits.

Is anyone here aware of any other states that refuse to recognize non-resident permits of the states that they have have reciprocity agreements with?
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I don't under stand the denial of non resident license either since it has the same qualifications as the resident license.. for the states that issue them .. and some have even more training then required .. like myself because my Illinois resident permit requires 16 hours of training .. 8 hours just on the law ..

If the National Law doesn't make all states will issue and not may issue I am afraid many will not be able to qualify for national reciprocity because they will not be able to acquire a license in their own state because of the state's may issue laws .. As its now written non resident license are not recognized ..

I am not in favor of any law that would exclude anyone in any manner if they are legally able to own a firearm !!
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I think you are a little confused about the Delaware laws. If you have a non resident permit from another state Delaware will honor it if they have agreements with that state. If you move to Delaware,and become a resident of Delaware, then you must get a Delaware permit, and they will no longer honor your non resident permit from another state.
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In this post by Gary Slider, SC Honors MS Enhanced… DE Changes It Rules. . . NH Permitless Carry… OH and IL, Gary shares that Delaware (effective 9/23) will stop honoring the non-resident CCW permits issued by the states that they have a reciprocity agreement with. When I went to the Delaware AG's website, I didn't see that statement, but I did see a posted apology for a statement that generated confusion on Feb 17-19. Because I do carry when I travel in Delaware, I did contact the AG's office for a clarification.
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I've moved 14 times in my working career spanning 40 years.

In the last half of this period it was always necessary to acquire a new state CCW for my current state of residency.

I also have a non-resident permit for a state to which I travel frequently (CT) but which does not have reciprocity with my current state of residence (OH).

This has become a real pain in the neck to jump through all of the necessary legal hoops not to mention the expense.

In the case of CT, they rejected my fingerprint cards, which were all taken at my local Sheriff's office, 4 times over the space of 3 months. Finally, I simply gave up, traveled to CT and waited in line to have my fingerprints taken there. CT sure didn't make things easy. Now with all this talk about upping renewal fees to $300, I may need to re-consider what to do once my current permit expires. I am hoping cooler heads will prevail in the ensuing months.

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My understanding is that while Colorado and Florida have reciprocity with Utah, they will not recognize non resident Utah permits.

Oregon is odd. It won't recognize any other state, although a number of other states recognize its CHL.
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The enhanced license has almost made non-resident licenses obsolete,
except certain situations like Onomea mentioned above. Oregon's license
is recognized by other states, but Oregon does not recognize other state's
licences. But Oregon does have a provision that someone in an adjacent
state, like Idaho, can get a non-resident license.
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I am all for states rights and autonomy...except when it comes to this.
The hodge podge of laws between states as far as CCW is a nightmare.
It can far too easily make a criminal out of a decent law abiding citizen.
I don't even understand half of what this thread is talking about.
" If I move to a state, will my non resident permit be invalid?"
What? I'm not jumping on the poster of this. It's a crazy fact. I'm jumping on the states for making it so.
Can't we clean this up once and for all, and permanently?
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I am all for states rights and autonomy...except when it comes to this.
The hodge podge of laws between states as far as CCW is a nightmare.
It can far too easily make a criminal out of a decent law abiding citizen.
I don't even understand half of what this thread is talking about.
" If I move to a state, will my non resident permit be invalid?"
What? I'm not jumping on the poster of this. It's a crazy fact. I'm jumping on the states for making it so.
Can't we clean this up once and for all, and permanently?
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The original intent was to question the value of a non-resident permit, when states that have reciprocity with the issuing state will only recognize the resident permits and not the non-resident permits.

It is not about my moving. I live in a "May issue state" that has a notorious reputation for not issuing permits. Being disabled, I feel like I have a neon sign over me identifying me as a potential victim. The ability to defend myself is paramount. I currently have two non-resident permits, which give me about 38 states that allow me to carry. However, when states begin to decline to recognize the non-resident permits, the ability to defend oneself diminishes. While the list is most likely longer, I know that Pennsylvania, Florida, and South Carolina will not recognize the non-resident permits of states that they have reciprocity with. When it was reported that delaware was joining the ranks of states not recognizing non-resident permits, I posted this thread.

When the national reciprocity legislation was initially introduced, the focus was on the honoring of resident permits issued by a state, not the non-resident permits. That is why I posted this thread. In many respects, the move to limit reciprocity to resident permits essentially disarms a class of armed citizen that has the misfortune to reside in a may issue or non-issuing state.
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I don't recall which state, but I remember reading they would not honor a non-resident permit unless the holder also held a resident permit for their home state. For example, Florida would recognize a non-resident Utah permit if I also hold a Idaho resident permit, if they didn't have reciprocity with Idaho.

Its muddled no matter how you look at it.
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I don't recall which state, but I remember reading they would not honor a non-resident permit unless the holder also held a resident permit for their home state. For example, Florida would recognize a non-resident Utah permit if I also hold a Idaho resident permit, if they didn't have reciprocity with Idaho.

Its muddled no matter how you look at it.
Utah does this. So when I moved to North Dakota from Colorado, I got a ND License and Emailed a scan of it to UT. So now I have both.

AT this time there is a constitutional carry bill that has passed the ND House and is in the process of going thru the Senate. I feel it will pass and the Governor will sign it.

BUT, I will still have and keep my UT non-resident along with my ND licenses. The primary reason is to transverse all the states I plan on going thru. As a secondary reason for keeping the ND license is to not have to deal with NICS checks.
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Slightly off topic.... I thought that when Pennsylvania's criminal Attorney General was convicted of a crime and ousted that PA would again honor out of state. She had unilaterally decided that non-resident permits were no good in PA.
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Slightly off topic.... I thought that when Pennsylvania's criminal Attorney General was convicted of a crime and ousted that PA would again honor out of state. She had unilaterally decided that non-resident permits were no good in PA.
The current attorney general is of the same party as the jailed attorney general so don't expect any improvements.
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I maintain a non-resident permit from a state I used to travel in a lot because I didn't want to try to explain the concept of reciprocity at the side of the road at night. When I asked a highway patrolman how long it would take to prove my permit was recognized by his state, all I got was an earful of attitude that people shouldn't carry loaded guns in cars.
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I'm curious about posts above re states which do not recognize non-resident permits from states with which they have reciprocity, BUT who make an exception — recognize the non resident permit — if the holder has in addition a permit from his state of residence.

Anybody have more info on that? Which states?
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...all I got was an earful of attitude that people shouldn't carry loaded guns in cars.


It makes me wonder where the patrolman carries his. In 30 years of policing, I prided myself on knowing the laws of the state and the city in which I worked. Knowledge of the state's firearms statutes, which would include reciprocal recognition of right to carry, is an occupational requirement, not a convenience. Sorry for your troubles.


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I reside in Virginia which is a "Shall issue State" and I got my CCW permit years ago by virtue of my Army DD 214, a set of fingerprints, a filled out App form, and my $50.00. Once signed off by the local County Sherriff it came by mail.

However, it does not exempt me from the background check if purchasing firearms.

My understanding of the Utah permit (comes from talking with the same local County Sherriff some years back) is that the Utah permit requires 4 hours actual classroom training (although I did hear very recently that it may now be on-line), and does (if granted) allow the holder of both, (a VA CCW and the Utah card) to be exempt from the State Police background check. The reason I was given was that the Utah data base is literally massive, and that it is reviewed entirely every 24 hours!

So....while one can get a VA CCW, good for 5 years, then the next day commit a felony, your VA CCW is still valid for 4 more years and 364 days. A Utah card however would get you (and the police) a official notice that you are revoked, and have 24 hours to surrender both the UT card and the VA CCW.

True in total or not I don't really know, just what I understood years ago, and still I was reminded even back then that recognition of, acknowledgement of, or honoring of out-of-State CCW permits, even with reciprocity agreements, is still up to the local officer on the scene, at the time of whatever has caused you to be present with your weapon in his/her jurisdiction.

So....I feel its the same old thing no matter where you are out of State. If travelling, I try to make sure I'm at least aware of the other States basic laws, but I also choose my EDC with the thought that if I do get it confiscated, or whatever...I don't have to worry too much about the loss.

Moral....don't use your one and only Registered Magnum as your EDC in other States!
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A most complex subject....

I live in NC....years ago I got a Florida Concealed Carry License..Why..it was good for 7 years, and cost less...seemed reasonable at the time as NC honored Florida CC License even though NC was my residence............THEN.....

there was talk in the NC legislature about requiring NC residents to get a NC license. This idea was being pushed by the NC sheriff's association and I feel sure money was the issue....Lots of people were going out of state to reciprocity states with NC for the above same reasons....... So I got the NC License also just in case they did pass that law.............NC did not pass that law in the end...

Wish we could adopt a national CCW permit system to avoid all the confusion......but I just don't think the powers to be will ever let that happen.........
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I think there's a variety of reasons why a state may choose to not recognize non-resident permits. Don't take any of this as my endorsement of any particular situation. Just my attempt to understand why.

In the case of Delaware, I think it's the specific wording of the law. The quote I found reads...

The State of Delaware shall give full faith and credit and shall otherwise honor and give full force and effect to all licenses/permits issued to the citizens of other states where those issuing states also give full faith and credit and otherwise honor the licenses issued by the State of Delaware pursuant to this section and where those licenses/permits are issued by authority pursuant to state law and which afford a reasonably similar degree of protection as is provided by licensure in Delaware and publish a list of reciprocal states annually on January 15.

The way that is written is pretty clear. The law does not just say permits issued by a reciprocity state, but permits issued to citizens of reciprocity states.

I also could understand the reasoning behind a state's decision to not recognize non-resident permits if a Permanent Brady Permit state decides not to recognize the non-resident permits of a non-Permanent Brady Permit state. Not sure if that's actually the case anywhere.

I think a lot of this has to do with the fear that criminals may slip through the cracks somehow. It's not like the sharing of criminal information between the states is perfect. They may fear that someone with a non-resident permit has some problem in their home state that may prevent them from obtaining a resident permit. The fact that there may not be any evidence that has actually happened is irrelevant to them. They have as much trouble figuring out all the minutiae of this situation as we do. If they suspect that it's just a loophole, they'll close it.

If the states would get together and standardize their procedures to some degree then it might help clear up the confusion. National Reciprocity by negotiation between the States.

I don't see how National Reciprocity is ever going to happen. They may pass a law but I expect it to be over-turned at the Supreme Court when challenged by one of the states that is sure to oppose it on States rights grounds. But I've been wrong before.

The only way I see National Reciprocity would work on the Federal level is if the Federal Government issued the permits.

I'm leery of supporting anything that erodes State's rights. Sometimes you have to take a stand for what's right, even when it's inconvenient. Especially when it's inconvenient. The Law of Unintended Consequences always worries me.

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I interpreted it that the primary issue for the states was that they didn't want a resident of their state to use a non resident permit from another state, I lieu of getting a resident permit in the state where they reside.
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