North Dakota has joined the Constitutional Carry Club.

North Dakota joins ranks of constitutional carry states

The article says that makes 12. For some reason they tied it to having a drivers license or state issued ID, so they don't really have full membership, but it's a start.

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I've lived in ND my whole life ( too long), and admit the fact that this state, regardless of abundant natural resources, great Ag. base etc., is still "hicks-ville" when it comes to politics, gov't management, etc. Instead of joining the progressive, forward thinking, of most other states, the mind-set, politically, here is; " well, maybe, sort of, kind of, should we try it ? But we don't want to really make any rash decisions that will make the rest of the country criticize us and laugh at us, do we" ?. Now ask me what I really think of my home-state policies

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FWIW, I am still going to keep my ND Concealed Weapons License for the ability to go the fast lane route with the NICS check. And I will keep the Utah Concealed Firearm Permit alzo.

No, that's why its a great state. People here like the way things are, see how things are going in the more "progressive" states, and see that maybe change ain't so great. The state isn't backwards, just old fashioned, which is a good thing. Black ink can't be that bad. But before we get banned for going off topic...

I think the whole state residents only was a compromise made to get the bill passed. No police came to testify from what I've seen, everything was discussed and finished behind closed doors and all that. I'm guessing that the idea is, the state trusts its own good old boy residents, good rural folk with some of the lowest crime rates in the world, but not the transients who have come to the state who make up a huge percentage fo the crime considering their small percentage of the population. After the oil boom, a lot of counties and small municipalities out west probably demanded this.

I'm guessing they also tied it to both classes of conceal carry as well as state ID cards to avoid the possible lawsuit that might come with the Constitution's Privileges and Immunities, claiming that if residents have the right, then all US citizens also do. Interesting to see if anything comes of that.

I used to get up to Fargo every once in a while. I always thought it was a great city and felt totally safe there.

I saw a a video a couple years ago with a woman discussing concealed carry. She was in the oil industry. Traveled to Oklahoma City, Lubbock, etc. The place she felt the least safe and would not go unless she was carrying was Williston, ND.

My experience with Fargo had always been "North Dakota Nice," so it took me by surprise.

Williston and the rest of The Patch was like the old West, 90% itinerant workers.

I grew up in Grand Forks, left in 1968 and have been back maybe 10 times in 49 years - that's enough.

Ours has passed the House as it did last year. Now the Senate will sit on their hands until they go on break like they did last year.

The non oil places didn't see much of the problem, but the patch was the Wild West in many respects. Went from boring quiet dead rural nowhere to housing crisis, and with the workers came imported strippers, then imported prostitutes, and with the imported bad workers came their own drug habits, and suddenly opiates where suddenly down there being shipped in. Sure, there were good men looking for good work, but there was such a wave of people who could be considered human trash that came withit. There were plenty of stereotypical drifter loser types, brought their increased petty crime and violence with them. After the oil busted, like it always does, a lot of them have left, which is good, leaving behind their pain killer addiction on more residents in its wake.

Way up here in Bottineau County, we had some fracking with the Spear Fish play, but nothing like Williston. Still, we saw a huge influx of people flooding through on their way to the main oil patch, or trying to find non existent work here. Tons of fraudsters and sketchy people. Got a little taste of it. But, most of the state is still the old rural clean nice place it has been.

The Attorney General posted the yearly applications for licenses, and there was a massive skyrocket, I'd say 6 times fold or more, around Sandy Hook and the oil boom, so hard to say if the motive was fear of gun control and the craze, or people arming themselves because of potential danger.

Welcome, North Dakota, to the Constitutional Carry neighborhood, but, OLDSTER, please do be careful what you wish for. Wyoming's Mecca of progressiveness is Jackson Hole. Last time I was there the popular bumper sticker on the "real" locals' trucks read, "My Wyoming has an East infection."

Cheers,

Bob

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