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Old 03-27-2017, 10:16 PM
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A man's 23 year old son was home alone when three guys decided to break in. They are now dead and a woman believed to be the getaway driver has been arrested.

One of the perps was armed with brass nucks, another with a knife.

The son was armed with a rifle.
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A man's 23 year old son was home alone when three guys decided to break in. They are now dead and a woman believed to be the getaway driver has been arrested.

One of the perps was armed with brass nucks, another with a knife.

The son was armed with a rifle.
You never know when you will need to protect yourself and your loved ones .. Perp's weren't there to socialize the way they were dressed .. Glad the family was prepared other wise it would/could have been a drastically different outcome !

And some wonder why some of us carry all waking hours even when at home !! you never know when you'll need to protect yourself even in what many would consider their safest place to be !!
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Good job. More than likely saved someone else from a bad future.
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"Investigators say it's too early to know if the suspects are connected to any other burglaries in the Tulsa-Wagoner area."

Well, they won't be connected to any others.

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"Investigators say it's too early to know if the suspects are connected to any other burglaries in the Tulsa-Wagoner area."

Well, they won't be connected to any others.

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Unfortunately, we also lost a young officer today, in an unrelated incident. He was shot while trying to subdue a suspect using a taser, which was ineffective.
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One of the perps was armed with brass nucks, another with a knife.

The son was armed with a rifle.
"Oops," as they say in explosive ordnance disposal.
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Not a smart move to scare someone holding a rifle on you. Makes you wonder how some people think or if they think.
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"Investigators say it's too early to know if the suspects are connected to any other burglaries in the Tulsa-Wagoner area."

Well, they won't be connected to any others.

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It is sad that the four accused chose to waste their lives robbing others, and even more sad that the young man involved apparently had no choice but to defend himself. Prayers to 'all' their families and to the young police officer's family in Tecumseh.
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"Fatalities"?

More like "you did something you really shouldn't have done and you got what was coming to you".
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Actually, to be quite honest, I wouldn't take a gal like that to a dog fight. Nope...on second thought, I think I would take a gal like that to a dog fight.
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A man's 23 year old son was home alone when three guys decided to break in. They are now dead and a woman believed to be the getaway driver has been arrested.

One of the perps was armed with brass nucks, another with a knife.

The son was armed with a rifle.
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Oklahoma police officer killed in traffic-stop shootout | Fox News
Let's see everybody jump up and down about this. Police officer loses life in trying to use a non lethal weapon. I'll be that's going to be all over the news....yeah, right.
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It's probably more like,"Oo------"
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More like "you did something you really shouldn't have done and you got what was coming to you".
Their bad judgement proved to be fatal for them.
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...hope she likes those stripes...she's gonna be wearing them for about three hundred years...she's charged with three counts of murder...bet she didn't count on that...
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...hope she likes those stripes...she's gonna be wearing them for about three hundred years...she's charged with three counts of murder...bet she didn't count on that...
Hardly a kid, he was in his mid 20's but drove a guy to and from a murder and stopped at Waffle House to talk things over. The courts were pretty tough with 30 years in the whole. Knowing the family, I wondered why. But as I heard the details of his involvement I thought, "Sorry, I'm not defending him.". It can be summed up. Got into drugs and started hanging around with the wrong people. Thank goodness our son wised up.
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Remember the words of Jeff Cooper:

"The proper solution to armed robbery is a dead robber, on the scene."

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I have become a vehement opponent of having or allowing Tasers, beanbag shotguns, and other less than lethal devices. They tend to be used when not appropriate because the apologists for the Criminally Feral have created such cowardice in LE managers, and this is not consistent with the safety of officers.

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Don't break in peoples homes, you won't get shot.While I agree it was a stupid decision to commit the crime, and wish it had turned out differently, all decisions have consequences.

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I understand the family members of the teens that died are saddened and feeling a lot of emotions right now. I however feel that if you force your way into someone's home the way they did, i don't care if the resident used an RPG, don't expect to break into a person's home and be met with kindness.
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I understand the family members of the teens that died are saddened and feeling a lot of emotions right now. I however feel that if you force your way into someone's home the way they did, i don't care if the resident used an RPG, don't expect to break into a person's home and be met with kindness.
Looks like the prosecutor came to a similar conclusion.

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Grandpa is himself a prolific criminal. Putting aside that he already displayed his stupidity by his advocacy for the criminally feral, he lost all credibility as a result of his criminal past. Defense of self and home is not supposed to be fair. It is supposed to be effective.
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Defense of self and home is not supposed to be fair.
I TOTALLY agree and posted this on another forum with regard to it:

Reality being what it is the quality of 'fairness' simply cannot be applied in a self defensive situation. 'Fair' denotes an acceptance of rules and regulations that are typically agreed upon by people, organizations, countries, teams etc. and are followed by all parties. There is nothing between the actions of burglars/intruders and the homeowners that could ever be categorized as 'fair'.
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