As are you!

Wow I do carry at home. Sounds like more issuses going on there.

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You never know. Odds do not mean a thing.
I live alone, well not quite. The cats do not care if I carry in my home.
Last, Im not fond of any situation in which there might be a race for the gun.
Jim

Y'all can laugh, but... I spent 8 years in the Infantry and for some reason I sleep better with my weapon next to me. Old habits...

What I find more odd than carrying at home is the concept of stashing several (presumably unsecured) guns throughout the house.

If you're doing that the odds are certainly against you because it's far more likely that those guns will be stolen from you in a burglary than used by you to defend yourself

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"I'll get some boxes so you can get your things packed up."

WARNING, GRAPHIC:

I spent my last six years in law enforcement as a crime scene investigator. I saw first hand what can happen when people are not prepared. One that sticks out in my mind is an elderly woman who was left at home with her 2 year old grand daughter when her husband went to the store for some milk. As he left, he noticed two teens in the parking lot of the apartments. He waved and they waved back. When he returned home he found his wife dead in the living room with her throat cut twice and some of her teeth on the floor. The grand daughter had thrown up on her feet. The punks had smacked the little girl, too. They got nothing and left. They were eventually caught, but not until they had robbed a hotel and shot the clerk.

For the most part, my family appreciates the fact that I carry and they all know that I usually do. On several occasions, when they felt uncomfortable about a situation, they asked me if I was carrying. They assumed that I was, but wanted the reassurance.

Despite all the efforts of liberals, this is not a kinder and gentler world. I prefer to live life facing reality, rather than in the "wouldn't it be nice if...." world.

I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

SVT28

BINGO!!!!! Ain't that the truth?

This is certainly not my original saying...YOU are the first responder!!!!!
The back of our range shirts say..
Be Kind
Be polite
Be Alert
You May Have To Shoot The Next Person You See.

Absolutely! Police would love to help out and save the day, but they can't do squat until they get there. It's on you until then.

LLB, your shirt also illustrates how law enforcement and our military on "peace keeping" missions have to operate daily. Thanks for sharing it.

Wow, with that, crime doesn't pick a time or place. Most home invasions usually happen in the home. Carry everyday every place it allows, avoid gun free zones like the plague. Better to have a gun you don't use, than to need a gun you don't have. With that said, to each their own.

It has always amazed me that adults allow others to tell them what they can and cannot do.

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Sounds like you have low T. See a doctor.

With all this said, It is NOBODY else's business whether or not I'm carrying! Exception would be my wife (and kids if we had any at home). My boys grew up with their dad carrying every day of their lives and it was obvious since duty holsters were open carry!! Their earliest education and instructions included a great deal of teaching about guns and gun safety. They knew they could touch and hold anytime they wanted to by asking me and together we would do it. As soon as they were big enough to safely shoot a gun, with me helping a lot in the beginning, they shot guns. They knew what it felt like, sounded like, and what that bullet could and would do to the things it struck. My wife also benefitted from these instructions and "classes". We never had issues about guns in the house and on my person.

A man and his wife need to be on the same page with as many things as they possibly can. All of us have some things about which we will not compromise. For me, right and wrong is two of those things. Take it or leave it! Fortunately, my wife is on the same page as I am about that. I'm not talking about opinion here or just likes and dislikes. We certainly are not on the same page with some of those. A good relationship involves compromises, but good character and integrity require that a person stands up for right and wrong, among other things. My wife and I have both made compromises over the past 50 years. Wasn't always easy, but our relationship to each other and our responsibility for our kids made it critically important to each of us to compromise when we could. Most of the things we compromised on were fortunately not very important stuff on the scale of important and priority things.

I don't tell people I carry. My wife and kids and grandkids know, and they have always been taught that it is nobody else's business and they should not tell anyone. I carry concealed unless hunting etc. If my gun is concealed, there is very little reason anyone else should know or question the fact. It's not an issue. I've carried guns and I've chewed tobacco all my life since I got "big" enough to do so. There are people who have known me biggest part of my life who do not know I do either one of those things. Unless I'm eating my dinner, you have not seen me without tobacco in my mouth. You figure out the rest. My life and the lives of my loved ones does not depend on whether I've got tobacco in my mouth. It could depend on the other thing.

My wife and I were on the same page about guns when we got married. I hoped she would carry or keep a gun handy for herself. For many years, she just kept a gun handy. Not the best situation, but not the worst either. Today, she is permitted as I am. Both of us would really hate if some home buster showed up at our house for a party and we were not prepared to give him a rousing welcome! Party on!! No, not really. We hope and pray we don't ever have to face that eventuality. But we might, and there is NO place we go these days when we might not also face a situation where having our tools with us might make the difference in whether we go home or not! So we try to be as prepared as possible for any eventuality ALL the time.

Sorry this is so long, but this subject is important to me, and I think it ought to be important to all of you as well. To protect ourselves, the first requirement is that we must be absolutely completely honest with ourselves about what is involved and the need to do so. We like to think there are times and places where we do not need to be on guard for our personal safety. Maybe there is, but if you've got your tool box with you even there, then you NEVER have to worry about not having your tools! After something happens unexpectedly is not the time to get prepared for that something. It's a challenge for all of us. We either take full responsibility for our own selves or we don't. And we each have to be satisfied with our own choices about these things. But I always wonder when I hear someone say that in this or that situation, I don't need to be fully prepared. I wonder if they are trying to convince me or themselves!! I'm not telling anyone what they should do. I'm telling you what I do, and that's based on 70 years of experience, much of it in uniform and having seen all the things that one sees in that business. So you take what I've said here for what ever it might be worth to you.

I'm not ragging on anyone here. Folks, this is a serious situation. I tell people who ask me, knowing I was a policeman for many years, about a gun for protection, many times after something has happened to scare them. I tell them that having a gun is not some kind of magic pill that, once you have it in hand, there will never be trouble any more in your life. I also tell them that having a gun and not having it where you can put your hand on it is pretty much a waste of time, cause you ain't gonna live your life within arm's reach of where that gun is at all the time! It's a HUGE responsibility and it's an important choice we each have to make. But it is an individual choice (whether we actively choose or not!). It's too important not to get it right. Thanks for listening ...

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GG you are so right. My tag line is not just a tag. I carry every step and shoot everyday.
Your last sentence says it all.

no kids or grandchildren in my house, i am wearing my 9mm Shield iwb most of the time. When not wearing it it's within arms length. My wife keeps a Smith model 60 handy. I guess i'm blessed in that my carry habit makes her feel safer. If you experience a home invasion you will NOT have time to go get your gun out of the other room.

Unfortunately I currently live in a less than amazing neighborhood. At the moment, it's with in my budget, and not too far from my job. It's about 7 miles from work, and usually a 30 to 40 minute drive home. Welcome to S. Florida!

The first month I lived here was quite a show. Multiple times I came home, to find squad cars only a door or two away. My truck was broken into. Oh, and I found out that my door didn't lock properly. Needless to say I decided quickly that I'd keep my firearm handy.

When I get home, I change and usually end up putting my EDC in the pocket of my recliner chair. It's currently here now. At night it's sitting on my nightstand ready to go. About a 2 feet away from that is my gun cabinet. They are all loaded and ready to go, if something happens with my EDC.

(Today no less than 4 squad cars, a firetruck and EMT one street over)

My gf knows and isn't uncomfortable with it.

I'm not paranoid. I am acutely aware of my neighborhood and it's surroundings. I am ready for anything that might happen.

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John 14:6, Luke 21:11

I gotta write that down.

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Glad you liked my subliminal training!

I enjoyed reading all the responses, I have had a few "life lesson" experiences that convinced me decades ago that I needed to be armed all the time. I either carry or it is within arms length whenever I am home. I live in a very low crime area but that said it is very, very rural as in nearest neighbor is 1/2 mile away and my house in in a forest, one way in one way out. When I step out the door I am armed. My wife of 41 years is so used to my ways nothing would surprise her. We don't tell each other what to do, never have. I don't tell anybody I am armed but I have been teaching CCW for 25 years so I would assume most people who know me would think I am armed. I was raised this way, I raised my boys this way. I really like the old expression "A gun is like a parachute, if you ever need it and you don't have it, you most likely won't ever need it again." I was lucky those decades ago, I was armed. I pray there won't be another event....but I will always be ready.

I couldn't wait to get older, as a kid, so I would not have anyone to answer for. As I get older, I realize that will never happen...

Maybe when I'm an old geezer in a home

I carry pretty much everywhere, every day. I can think of two places I have disarmed; the airport and the police station. I will carry some places I shouldn't, under the assumption that concealed means concealed. I'm sure many others do also.

At home I keep a loaded firearm in my personal bedroom and I carry one loaded on me. It doesn't sleep under my pillow or anything, night stand is close enough.

I also make it a point to carry a knife with me at all times. Mainly utility, but in a pinch it could do the trick.

In my suburb, the odds of getting abducted by aliens is greater than the odds of being the victim of a home invasion.

(Here, the Police have not shot a bad buy in over a decade.)

[QUOTE=dlombard;139539663]I ask because I tried to have this conversation over the weekend and I got a lot of unexpected feedback. Like, "it's excessive" specially since it's just a two bedroom apartment[QUOTE]

I am not sure what you are trying to say: I carry all the time, except where prohibited by law. I open carry in my home if I choose to, or concealed if I choose. If you are saying your significant other finds it "excessive" I would suggest that you or they live some where else. The first night I met my wife, I told her I will show you mine, if you show me yours. She had a SW 36 and I had a PPK 380!! We will be married 26 years this fall, I often buy 2 of a firearm, one for her one for me. Excessive?? We both hunt, fish, shoot, like Rottweilers, etc, etc, and do not believe that you could have too many guns, either in the safe or on you. If I have company, I am not going to disarm because of them, why? Granted 90% of the visitors/friends in my house are LEO, but this is my house, if someone does not like it, they are certainly free to leave. I do not know that you can explain or convince someone that 2 is not excessive, any more than you can convince someone that one AR, AK, etc, is not excessive. You may get them to tolerate carrying 2, but it is a short term fix, only you can decide which is more important, your life or someone else's feelings?? Best of luck. Be Safe,

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Yeah, not really an option for most people . . .

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Wisdom comes thru fear . . .

But when they do next week . . .

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Wisdom comes thru fear . . .

What you experienced could only happen where you live. I iive in a 2nd Amendment state. No permits for open or concealed carry here. There never was a restriction (since even before statehood)
for open carry any where in any county area. Now Tombstone had a no carry law even it 1881. But carrying concealed is okay with
no permit required.
This would really shock your friends. Oh! Maybe you need new friends?
Stay safe
Poli Viejo

Everybody I've lived with in my adult life has known from well before we lived together that what I do with my firearms is my business. I don't know what to tell you about your current situation. But you might keep this in mind if your living situation ever changes. It eliminates the chance of it being a problem later.

If you want to do it just go ahead and do it. If they leave - too bad, so sad.

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I am in a similar situation with OP. I have a wife and two daughters therefore my weapons are locked up(kids). My wife has become anti carry for some odd reason and has been able to convince one daughter the same. My other daughter shoots with me all the time and has no issues with carrying. I live in a rural setting where police are 10-15 minutes too late and always am armed when outside. When inside I carry when I think she/they won't notice. I realize this isn't perfect, but I really can't justify a divorce over it.

I once read an article that said most encounters happen during the day outside your home. Even knowing that, I still for some reason prepare for the at night home invasions. I think it's just natural because the things we charrish the most are at home, family and belongings. I'll try to make this short. One day I was doing car work at home, needed to go to the local parts store for some parts. I didn't have my gun on because I was under the car on a creeper. I figured a quick trip to the parts store would be okay, after all I had my edc knife on me, and all fairly capable of handling myself. Once I arrived at the parts store there was a very heated argument going on inside that made the hairs stand up on my neck. The manager was doing a horrible job of deescolating the situation by ignoring the two guys that where yelling, all the more making them upset. I decided it was a good idea to remove myself from the situation and left. That's the only time I have ever left my home not armed. It was a lesson well learned. Bad things happen when your least expect them, because most of us never expect it. I'm a little on the, as wife says, perinoid side,I prefer to think of it as prepared. If you're legally licensed, carry everyday everywhere that allows. Just my two cents...

When I got my first LEO job, when off duty, the wife would ask, "Do you have to carry that pistol?" After many years, I wore her down. She became a target shooter and competed for a couple of years. For the past several years, she has had an unlimited "handgun license", but she seldom carries. I'm long ago retired. Now though, once in a while, when she feels uncomfortable, she says, "You have your gun on you, don't you?" Of course I do!

The above is Best answer !
The girl needs an address change or attitude adjustment.

I came to the conclusion long ago that trying to estimate when, where or how a threat might occur was foolishness. Playing the "odds" of something happening, or having a false sense of security based on the neighborhood I live in is also foolishness.
The only question that matters is, If I find myself faced with a threat WILL I BE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH IT...OR NOT?

In response to THAT question I carry EVERYWHERE I am legally allowed, including at home, and yes, under a car on a creeper (which is an especially vulnerable place).

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That's why I never get under a car alone!

I will assert if your spouse made that kind of statement to me that there are deeper underlying marital issues than simply carrying in the house.....I hate to say it that way but no one threatens to end a relationship out of the blue over a single issue......you might want to ask what is the underlying issue.......I am not a marriage counselor but that kind of reaction is extreme. Good luck.

Twenty plus years ago, when I was contemplating whether I should get a CCW, I went through quite a number of thought experiments to try to determine if it was the right decision for me. Not everyone should carry a gun. Some folks are just not emotionally suitable for that responsibility.

Among the thoughts that I had was recalling all of the vignettes at the front of the NRA magazines that I had read over the years. So many of them included a description of the homeowner fighting his way to where the gun was ("he retrieved his gun from the bedroom" was another perennial). This answered the question as to whether to carry in the home.

Another thought was how to decide when and where to carry the gun. After some thinking about this, it made sense to me that you can't predict when you will need to be armed, so if you are going to carry a gun you should carry it everywhere that it is legal to do so. This reinforced the decision to carry in the home because now I don't have to remember to arm myself when leaving the house - I just include that in my daily dress code.

As an afterthought, I have had to retrace my steps a couple of times when I realized that I was on my way to someplace where I could not legally carry a gun.

I live alone and do not carry in house. I have a gun in every room and basement. My neighborhood is fairly safe but gang members are not far away. If the gun ain't there when it's needed, You probably will wish it was.

Massad Ayoob, in one of his many books, said the following: (Paraphrasing) Many young LEO's don't feel the need to carry their firearm when inside their own home. However, Ayoob notes that after such an officer bears witness to the horrific aftermath of home invasion murders, he/she almost always changes their mind, and from then on, carries inside their own home.

To the OP: It sounds like your living companions have values that conflict with your own. This is nothing new. You need to decide whether your own safety goals are more or less important than the people in your domicile.

I don't carry at home. Not comfortable. But I have one laying near by. The front door is pretty far away.

Yes I may be playing the odds but I live in a safe neighborhood in a safe town in a safe township. We've had one murder in 30 years. Happened last year, two guys fighting over a girl. One drove to the other's house and shot him. Can it happen again? Sure! Odds are about the same as people quoting FBI statistics on shots fired and why 5 rounds is more than enough

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Anyone remember the old Pink Panther movies where Kato would hide and ambush his boss, Inspector Clouseau, to keep his edge? I have my wife do that...

I don't understand the relationship between national reciprocity and a Utah license. Would appreciate an explanation from anyone who does.

Been thinking on this. Maybe dlombard means if there were national reciprocity, and he had a Utah non-resident permit, then California, his state of residence, would have to recognize his Utah permit, even if California continued to refuse to issue him a permit...

The best way to prepare for a home invasion...

Clouseau v. Cato - Round 1 - YouTube

Aloha,

As I have mentioned, we are a few months away from moving to Hill Country in Texas.

I have researched the crime stats of the counties we are interested in moving to.

Very low and only in the town/cities. None in the outskirts.

Doesn't mean it can't happen.

The Wife is a gun gal, she has guns and know how to use each one.

The discussion we had about living in the country on acreage large enough to have our own shooting range means we will be on our own for personal safety.

Wife wants Guns, Lots of them well hidden in the house. That made me rethink that the Smiths I bough for $300 years age are now worth a lot more. So now I'm going to get guns we won't miss if involved in a shooting and the police take them as evidence. Rossi, Taurus and Glock came to mind.

So, after moving, one thing we will be doing is scouring gun shows for "house" guns.

When out & about on the property, you can bet that we will have a handgun and long gun in the UTV. Also in the UTV will be at least one or more Cattle dogs(ours love to go riding).

BTW, the Wife wants a New Presentation Thompson with 50 round drum.
Sad that we can't afford a full auto Real Tommy gun.

She knows anything worth shooting once is worth shooting several more times.

How do you suppose this might have ended differently if you had been carrying? Would having your gun meant that you might have attempted to assist in defusing that situation?

It wouldn't have ended differently, I still would have left the situation alone, no one was yelling at me. It was a situation where I would have felt better if I was armed just in case I was engaged into something I wanted no part of. My best weapon is my brain not my gun. My gun just gives me a personal feeling of comfort when I'm out in the world for some odd reason. Maybe I've just become use to having it on me. Funny thing is when I was first issued didn't carry for the first 6 months. After I started I became use to it like putting on my shoes. I'm not completely dressed until I have my sidearm, knife, flashlight. I'm not John Rambo just a normal guy living in a really screwed up world. I highly suggest to anyone that has a license to carry to make sure you know what you're getting into if you ever have to use your sidearm. The way laws are now days you better be able to prove that your life was very much in danger before you pull that handle. Just my useless 2 cents, hope it answered your question.

I really wanted to have fun with that question, but figured seems how know one knows who I am I better not. But wouldn't that have been a riot if I would have broke into the crazy guy with a gun routine. As in, I would have pulled my gun and said freeze like Barney, OMG that would have been a riot. Then proceeded into some crazy story where I pulled out my Amazon handcuffs and cuffed then both, maybe shooting off a round for story purposes.... Maybe next time....

No one knows what fate has to offer.

I've read stories here from guys who usually carry but for one reason or another didn't on a particular day when something happened that would have warranted use of lethal force. Afterwards, no one was injured and the perpetrator caught. Couldn't have ended any better.

Carrying a gun doesn't guarantee a better outcome, it just guarantees an available option that I believe most folks wish to never be required of them.

If a person (who doesn't have an irrational fear of guns, and isn't a control freak) doesn't want their spouse/ partner carrying in the house, then they must not have confidence in the other person's:
1. Skill with firearms.
2. Safe handling of firearms.
3. Emotional stability.
4. Judgement.

These are serious concerns/ issues. I'd have to ask myself why I want to live with such a person.