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Oldest Carry Gun ?
This past weekend, I ccw'ed a 4Th Model Safety Hammerless .38s&w, shipped in 1904 . ( And yes, its owner ccw's it on occasion.)
Rides great in front jeans pocket . Shoots to the sights, I hit 5 for 5 on steel plate at his private range. Power level at least on par with a .380. I like, wouldn't mind having somthing this.
I thought about it afterwards, and this is oldest ( actual production, not design) I have actually carried.
How about it people, anyone carried older, either in terms of date of production, or relative age at the time ?
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I have. The DS on the right is my EDC. However, every once in a while, I carry its grandfather, the NS in .45 Colt. This is my oldest handgun, made in 1916, and it still shoots great, except for the DA trigger pull, which almost requires the strength of Charles Atlas! It is, though, my best "point shooting" revolver. But, like I said, I carry it just once in a while.
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I have carried my Hopkins and Allan Ranger #2 in .32 rimfire on occasion. It was manufactured in the 1870s.
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Well, that one will be hard to top !
Actually I did have the opportunity today (yesterday) to purchase an original Remington New Army .44, aka Model 1858. Was more than I was looking to spend, but it was less than my most recent vehicle purchase .
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I carried my King's Gun Works custom 1948 Colt Commercial Government Model, ivory grips and all, all day yesterday and will occasionally pack a 1909 Colt Police Positive Special that's been cut down to 2".
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On occasion I've carried a 1946 4" M&P and a 1950s Colt Detective Special ...............................
not as old as those mentioned.......... but they were my Dad's..... one of his uniform guns and his off duty/Captain's guns.
I took his "daily carry" from 1939 - about "196somthing"; 6" King's customized .357 Colt New Service to Alaska one summer when I was in law school..............
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Yesterday I carried and shot my Triple Lock, serial number 1375 made in 1908. It just returned this week from one of this Forum member's hands who" mortified" it for me. It goes out tomorrow to Ford's for refinishing. When it comes back it will look like a circus calliope. My tastes are mine and it will suit me. Today, every man on the Battery Oaks Range will shoot the snot out of a 3 1/2 inch TL. Fun fun fun!
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Nothing really old like some of you guys. I have carried my late 70s 36 a few times on quick trips to the store
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Wow. I'm not even close. I occasionally carry a Colt Agent made in 1969. Many of my carry snubs are early 70s to mid-80s vintage.
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Tie game for me. I have two old timers that I occasionally take out for a walk here and there.
Colt Model 1911 Commercial, manufactured 1914. Colt Single Action Army "Frontier Six Shooter" .44-40, manufactured 1914.
Also have a Colt 1860 Army manufactured 1862, Colt 1851 London Navy manufactured 1861, Colt 1849 Pocket Model manufactured 1854, couple of Remington New Army's manufactured 1863 and 1864, and a few others that seem to be more comfortable in the safe deposit box. Remington-Elliot .41 double derringer is still fully functional, but .41 rimfire ammo is a bit scarce so I don't consider it as a daily carry piece.
Most of my small game hunting is done with a 1939-vintage Winchester 62-A .22 rifle, but occasionally I'll take out the Winchester Low Wall .22 Short Winder Musket that still does as well as intended over 120 years ago.
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LOL I've got a 1887 Model 1885 Low wall in .22short hanging in my office....... .22short and it must weight 9-10lbs!!!!!!!
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LOL I've got a 1887 Model 1885 Low wall in .22short hanging in my office....... .22short and it must weight 9-10lbs!!!!!!!
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General Winder proposed a .22 caliber single-shot musket for use in training active duty troops in general musketry skills at lower cost. Several thousand were produced and the "Winder Musket" remains a desirable collector piece.
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Like many of you, I have some pretty old guns that I occasionally take for a stroll. But in my case, my EDC ain't no spring chicken either. This is what's on my hip about 90% of the time when I walk out the door.
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General Winder proposed a .22 caliber single-shot musket for use in training active duty troops in general musketry skills at lower cost. Several thousand were produced and the "Winder Musket" remains a desirable collector piece.
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This little fella's been carried a lot in its lifetime. Now that I'm its custodian I do occasionally toss it in a front pocket. It's about half as old as many on this thread -- a '49er -- but it's older than I am.
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From 1977-1980 I carried a 1911 made in 1917. Since then I've been carrying a 1952 Commander in .38 Super...
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Been hunting with Grandad's 1906 Win M1897 takedown, but didn't consider that remarkable, give the high production, and continuing popularity for both field use and SASS.
When 1942 Victory became my first duty gun, they were less desirable/ valuable than civillian guns. Likewise late 1920 Colt Gov't was unremarkable, due to wear and aftermarket Nickle .
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I've occasionally pocket carried a 1902 vintage .32 Lemonsqueezer. I just put 30 rounds through it this weekend, but don't carry it anymore. Right now I'm carrying a Colt Government Lightweight .45 ACP. Both ends of the age and power spectrum.
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A '58 Cobra is as old as I go, but it's pretty rare. Even though I like the extra round, I don't shoot it as well as a j-frame.
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Go ahead and carry it. BUT, if you ever have to shoot a person the bullet may well bounce off. The factory ammo is severely downloaded. Take a backup with some punch.
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General Winder proposed a .22 caliber single-shot musket for use in training active duty troops in general musketry skills at lower cost. Several thousand were produced and the "Winder Musket" remains a desirable collector piece.
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My U.S. marked Winder is the top one in this photo of my U.S. military training rifles
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I carried a 1950 Detective Special as a backup gun for over a year, that would be the oldest I've carried. The oldest S&W I've carried is my 1975 vintage 4" 10-5. However since I was only born in 1974 I think of that 10-5 as virtually brand new.
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1943 Victory .38 Spl has seen plenty of carry time but now it`s a much newer 60-3 3" .38 Spl.
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Wow. I'm not even close. I occasionally carry a Colt Agent made in 1969. Many of my carry snubs are early 70s to mid-80s vintage.
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I have, on RARE occasion, carried a pre-WWII Browning .25. It is, IMHO, not enough gun for serious self-defense and only did so when concealment was an overriding issue.
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OLDEST CARRY
For my "going to the convenience store to get some eggs" carry, I like to drop this 1922 Ortgies .25 in my cargo shorts pocket
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This past weekend, I ccw'ed a 4Th Model Safety Hammerless .38s&w, shipped in 1904 . ( And yes, its owner ccw's it on occasion.)
Rides great in front jeans pocket . Shoots to the sights, I hit 5 for 5 on steel plate at his private range. Power level at least on par with a .380. I like, wouldn't mind having somthing this.
I thought about it afterwards, and this is oldest ( actual production, not design) I have actually carried.
How about it people, anyone carried older, either in terms of date of production, or relative age at the time ?
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It's not the age nor finish that counts on a carry piece but the reliability and mechanical condition. Tho old top break DA revolvers have weak trigger return springs just from age. Find and keep a spare TR spring. Also, pop off the sideplate, clean out a century of gook and dirt, just place a few tiny dabs of automotive grade high temperature synthetic grease (e.g. high temp wheel grease) on the moving parts and you should be good.
Should it ever happen to you when you need it most, usually you can manipulate the trigger forward with your finger and get off another shot and likely repeat the procedure as needed.
On the standard top breaks with a exposed hammer you could just keep pulling the trigger back but on a Safety hammerless you don't have that option.
Also check out a newer (1990 or newer) 642, not quite as small but almost and much more reliable.
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I have carried my 1896 Safety Hammerless 38 S&W (Lemon squeezer) I never carried my Dad's 1855 Colt Root Revolver, but he did in the mid to late to mid 50's.
I have carried a Sedgley "Baby Hammerless" in 22 short for laughs. It is from 1927. I also carried a lot of 1880's and 90's top break 32's and 38's, I really liked the later "hammerless" models, we called them "Glove Guns", as you would slide them into a white cotton work glove and leave it plain sight, just fire right through the glove!
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oldest that i carry
This is my daily carry, 1959 no dash 12. Its the oldest i carry but not the oldest i own. BBQ.jpg
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From time to time, I carry this old guy. A slightly modified 38/44. Shipped in July 1939.
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I've carried an old Smith & Wesson Model 1917 .45 that was part of the Brazilian contract from 1937. Somebody put a shorter underlug barrel on it and hard chromed it, but the year shows on the national crest. I just hope it was a restoration of a worn out gun. Whoever did the work did a fabulous job. It really shoots well.
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I carry this one quite a bit.
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My 1968 Colt Cobra, purchased new for $85 as my first off-duty gun. Not carried much now but it does get a range trip now and then.
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I carry this old .38 every now and then.
I load it with regular factory LRN ammo. Once I bought some .38 Short Colts for it that were a couple of bucks cheaper. They are really wimpy loads - 125 grain lead bullets that I doubt would crack 700 fps, but they still blew through the bottom of some old cookware I was disposing of.
With regular 145 grain .38 S&Ws I'm sure it would suffice.
The oldest one I carry regularly is this 100 year old Pocket Hammerless .32 ACP.
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I used to carry a 2" Smith 36-"no dash" until I switched to a 3 1/2" M1911. I think it was made some time in 1960.
I got it through a lawyer friend who had a client going up the river for kiddie porn. He needed it where he was headed. He just couldn't have it...
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I have. The DS on the right is my EDC. However, every once in a while, I carry its grandfather, the NS in .45 Colt. This is my oldest handgun, made in 1916, and it still shoots great, except for the DA trigger pull, which almost requires the strength of Charles Atlas! It is, though, my best "point shooting" revolver. But, like I said, I carry it just once in a while.
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I have a S&W, 4 digit 1917 that I am carrying and shooting right much this year. I'm helping it celebrate its 100th birthday. Larry
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Baby Chiefs from 1952, with 5 X Hornady 110gr Critical Defense FTX in 38 S&W Special... Or 5 X Nyclads from the 1970's.
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I thought we were talking about OLD guns... OK, I'll admit I don't carry it all that often, but still in great shooting shape, and slick as you could ask... Roy says it shipped July 1887!!! It's a .38 Safety Hammerless, 2nd Model:
Shoots modern commercial ammo, but I have some lighter handloads that I usually feed it, since it's 130 years old this year!!
Best Regards, Les
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Lately I have been carrying my Star Super A, proof marks put it at 1947.
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I was out walking today behind my house, not very far but, it gets pretty wild really fast here in Arizona, I heard some coyotes barking a little way off. I foolishly didn't bring a pistol with me, I picked up a rock, I guess that thing must have been a billion years old. Does that qualify?
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