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Old 05-06-2017, 08:38 PM
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Been carrying a PF9 Keltec ...it has and is a great gun having never had a FTF, FTL or FTE ...but like many small light weights a soft handhold or limp wrist got it and others a bad rep.

But to drain the swamp and to address the title ...I could not pass on the $244/MP9 shield

A tad bigger than the PF9 but not a lot ...I wear mostly Levi jeans with some Wranglers and Lees thrown in ...So Ive been a front pocket carry guy for years ...in and out or off trucks,tractors,UTV's,combines etc.

The good news ...my now week old ownership of my MP9 Shield has gone smooth as silk ...just slipped the M&P into the pocket holster I once carried my Keltec in ...drop it in my right front Levi jean pocket every morning and life is good ....this morning I happened to grab a a pair of Wranglers....whoa up cowboy ...I might get it in ...barely ...but not in a million years get it OUT combat effective

In measuring pockets of all my brands of jeans ...Levis are as much as 25% larger in all dimensions ...I can draw the M&P leaving the holster in the pocket ..slick n easy out of every pair of Levis I own and zero out of my Wranglers,lee and no names!

SO ....next jean buy ...know the few extra $$ for Levis over other brands is going to add to your CCW options.

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Congrats on new Smith. I have had very good service on all three K el Techs 9, 380., & 32. They all have been flawless .Along with my smiths
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Uh... are you aware that Levi is an extremely liberal, anti-gun company which contributes large amounts of money to our enemies?
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Old 05-11-2017, 02:33 PM
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I'm a wrangler guy. Never had an issue pocket carrying. Even my bulldog.
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I'll admit, I'm a true-blue, dyed-in-the-wool Wrangler man. Why?

Well, first off, they're made in the USA and not in some sweat shop in Biafra by an 8-year-old little girl named Qwang.

Second, Wranglers original cowboy-cuts cost about $25.00 (they were $19.00 dollars until a few years ago) and Levi 501's are $59.98 on sale at J.C. Penny's. That's more than twice the cost.

Of course, I realize that wasn't your point. It was ease of access to your firearm. I've never considered front pocket pants carry as an option, so I guess we're both okay.
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Take a look at the Wrangler Carpenter Jeans. Big pockets, relaxed/loose fit, and extra pockets for your cell phone, carry knife, etc.


https://www.wrangler.com/shop/men-je...tionId=94LSWVD
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Congrats on finding what works for YOU. For me, it's just the opposite. None of the Levi Relaxed fit jeans work for me, but I have no problem accessing my Shield in Relaxed Fit Wranglers.

This is why everyone needs to do their own shopping and check the possibilities in the dressing room before buying.
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Old 05-11-2017, 07:25 PM
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If you're a Costco member their Kirkland brand jeans work very well and are inexpensive. Give them a try.
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Wrangler cargo pants and shorts are perfect for pocket carry. I haven't bought a pair of jeans in years.
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If it fits, looks good and affordable I buy them. Levi's, Wrangler, Old Navy, and others

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I have no problems with Levi jeans......the company has a reputation as anti-gun. I wear Wrangler relax fit.
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I favor Orvis or Eddie Bauer kaki pants with deep pockets: best thing going for pocket carry.
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I can't stand low rise jeans, or as my wife calls them "pube pants", so I've been buying Carhartt B237 carpenter jeans. They're 15 oz, not the usual 10 or 12 oz fabric, full rise, nice big pockets, nine belt loops, big brass zipper, loose fit. My P238 or P938 fit just fine in a leather pocket holster, rt. front pocket, and spare magazine and pocket knife fit in each of the rule pockets.

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Levi's is very anti-gun. I will never buy their jeans or set foot in one of their stores
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Uh... are you aware that Levi is an extremely liberal, anti-gun company which contributes large amounts of money to our enemies?
There are just certain things in life, that I have to let slide. As painful as it may be (to some), I'll wear Levis forever. Can't stand Wrangler, except for the jackets.

BTW--- I'm a right wing conservative. I'll be calling my liberal brother on his birthday next week. We might argue for hours, but not sure if there will be any Levi versus Wrangler.
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A 1911 will not fit in my pockets...
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I can't stand low rise jeans, or as my wife calls them "pube pants", so I've been buying Carhartt B237 carpenter jeans. They're 15 oz, not the usual 10 or 12 oz fabric, full rise, nice big pockets, nine belt loops, big brass zipper, loose fit. My P238 or P938 fit just fine in a leather pocket holster, rt. front pocket, and spare magazine and pocket knife fit in each of the rule pockets.
Finally someone I can agree with. Used to be a Levi's only guy but the cost, quality, and company attitude towards firearms had me look for an alternative. Which is Carhartt, like their coats, shirts and pants, jeans and cargo. Doesn't hurt a bit that they are also based in the Metro Detroit area and still do some manufacturing here. BTW since I stated hitting the gym 2 times a day I go through a lot of T shirts in a week and can state based on my experience that NO OTHER BRAND of T shirt lasts as long as a Carhartt.

PS; I carry a Ruger LC9S Pro in my right front pocket every day and it's no problem at all to slip the pistol into or out of my pocket with the holster in place and in practicing with an unloaded pistol drawing it is as smooth as silk.

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My 640 in its Sticky holster disappears nicely in the front pocket of my Carhartt Double-Fronts and still leaves plenty of room for my hand.

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Old 05-13-2017, 03:07 PM
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I'm a Wrangler guy, mostly because they are cheap but also because they fit me well.
Years ago (about 1988) I was thinking of joining the Coast Guard. I bought a documentary book about the Coast Guard. I still remember one passage by a Coastie in San Fransisco, his favorite jean is Levi, because Levis are the only ones that don't split apart when a jumper (off of the Golden Gate bridge) hits the water.
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That is my understanding and as my Levis wear out they are being replaced by Wranglers and Dickies.
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Old 05-13-2017, 05:32 PM
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I carry a smaller pocket pistol, the Kahr CM-9. It fits well in the front pocket of the most comfortable jeans I've ever owned, Wrangler Flex Fit. I quit buying Levis because of their anti-gun stance. https://www.wrangler.com/shop/wrangl...egraeedymd8kwi
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As noted above, I think it is more a matter of which style of each brand has the larger pockets. I like the Riggs Workwear cargo pants from Wrangler - roomy, lots of big pockets.

On the other hand, you might gain a tactical advantage if someone sees you wearing Levi's and assumes you are unarmed .
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I've been wearing Wrangles since you could buy them at woolworths for $4.50. Did switch to Roebucks for a couple of years cause I didn't have any money but I had a Sears credit card. Never tried Levi's. Carry IWB,OWB,and Mexican carry.
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I haven't bought Levi jeans in so long I can't even remember when I last bought a pair. They are no longer made in the USA so the heck with their prices and nostalgia.
I mostly wear Wranglers. My LCR, LC9S, S&W 640-1 and even my Bulldog fits in my front pockets.
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Okay.................it's very evident, that many around here, prefer the overall (or is it coverall) look of Wranglers, Dickies, and Carhartt.

I'll just never be one of the many I guess. I think it's been 60+ years with Levi's and only Levi's. I'm not a suit man, and don't drive a tractor.
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Okay.................it's very evident, that many around here, prefer the overall (or is it coverall) look of Wranglers, Dickies, and Carhartt.

I'll just never be one of the many I guess. I think it's been 60+ years with Levi's and only Levi's. I'm not a suit man, and don't drive a tractor.
Wranglers/Dickies/Carhart don't equal overalls. Yes, that's one style they make, but so has Levis...
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There are just certain things in life, that I have to let slide. As painful as it may be (to some), I'll wear Levis forever. Can't stand Wrangler, except for the jackets.

BTW--- I'm a right wing conservative. I'll be calling my liberal brother on his birthday next week. We might argue for hours, but not sure if there will be any Levi versus Wrangler.
I would never, knowingly buy from someone or something that whats to take away my 2nd amendment rights. I'm sorry to hear you support such a company.
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I would never, knowingly buy from someone or something that whats to take away my 2nd amendment rights. I'm sorry to hear you support such a company.
Quite possibly, there are many employees having to do with Levi's who enjoy second amendment rights. I don't know, do you?

On the other hand, we're better off, not to go down this road. Don't get me started. More than not, I'm a old white guy conservative, who gets ticked off with nearly every liberal thing I hear. Yet, as they say, I'm not going to get my panties in a wad over it. Are we clear?????????????????

edit: And now I'm ticked off! But what I won't do, is stop wearing Levi's because a bunch of members on some forum............are telling me I shouldn't do so. I've never been what you'd call a team member. I don't much care for follow the leader either...

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Levi goes cheap on belt loops and only puts 5. I won't consider buying pants with less than 7. Carhartt 324 work khakis are my everyday usuals but the B11 carpenter jeans are favs as well.

Rural King has a $10 pair of hammer loop carpenter jeans that are great for summer wear. Full cut, a lighter weight denim with plenty of pockets and 7 belt loops.
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Been carrying a PF9 Keltec ...it has and is a great gun having never had a FTF, FTL or FTE ...but like many small light weights a soft handhold or limp wrist got it and others a bad rep.

But to drain the swamp and to address the title ...I could not pass on the $244/MP9 shield

A tad bigger than the PF9 but not a lot ...I wear mostly Levi jeans with some Wranglers and Lees thrown in ...So Ive been a front pocket carry guy for years ...in and out or off trucks,tractors,UTV's,combines etc.

The good news ...my now week old ownership of my MP9 Shield has gone smooth as silk ...just slipped the M&P into the pocket holster I once carried my Keltec in ...drop it in my right front Levi jean pocket every morning and life is good ....this morning I happened to grab a a pair of Wranglers....whoa up cowboy ...I might get it in ...barely ...but not in a million years get it OUT combat effective

In measuring pockets of all my brands of jeans ...Levis are as much as 25% larger in all dimensions ...I can draw the M&P leaving the holster in the pocket ..slick n easy out of every pair of Levis I own and zero out of my Wranglers,lee and no names!

SO ....next jean buy ...know the few extra $$ for Levis over other brands is going to add to your CCW options.

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Well fellows ...I have learned quite a bit ...other brands and/or models that seem to work ...remember I was just excited to find my preferred front pocket carry would work with my new and larger MP9 shield ....now I am for buy American ...and do not wish to support a company who actively is against what I believe to be most dear to me ...so in the meantime will continue with the Levi I have on hand and investigate all of the info you guys have provided to see if a brand change is in order and if so which one will get the nod .....in the meantime my Fruit of the Looms manufacturing wise have gone to junk grade ...but I hesitate to ask!!!!!!!!

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Wrangler all the way. Levi Straus has a no carry policy in their stores. My $ will not be spent in their stores or on their products.
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Several years ago I discovered Carhartt washed duck work pants. They come in several colors, blue included) and are much cheaper than Levi's. The pockets are larger, MUCH better made and have other handy features. I'll admit I'm not wild about the hammer loop, but have found it comes in handy with the larger flashlights. You can always cut the loop off.

You can usually find them in Tractor Supply or online.
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