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Old 08-10-2017, 05:16 PM
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What? A 75mm pack howitzer and a dozen mules?
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Old 08-14-2017, 02:03 PM
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Interesting video, although I'm not sure why he chose 20 yards if he's demonstrating self defense shooting capabilities of small handguns.

He's dang proficient with the J-frame.
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Old 08-14-2017, 02:49 PM
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I watched the video, but unless I missed it he never stated the weight of the bullets. While velocity aids in shocking power weight aids in penetration. Was he using the same weight bullets in the 9mm as in the 38?
125 +P JHP in 38
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Old 08-14-2017, 03:47 PM
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A 22cal will do the trick if the "shot placement" is correct!
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A Logic Tutotomy:
No weapon is good for self defense if you cannot use it properly. (Bullet placement, etc..)
.38 s&w special is more than adequate for self defence. Given good propellant and projectile choice.
9x19 is .38 special without a rim. .38 special is 9x19 with a rim and more powder and projectile choices.
9x19 is more than adequate for self sefence, given good propellant and projectile choices
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:22 PM
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The mall ninjas also haunt gun shops & ranges, offering their expertise on how to defend yourself from zombies. I'm 70 and have NEVER seen a zombie and am not sure what they are.

We used to have a rash of them after a change in the heroin supply.
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Old 08-17-2017, 07:06 PM
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I'm liking my SP-101 (with 38 Corbon DPX +P) more and more and carrying it more and more. IWB with a Galco holster it's very comfortable. Much easier to conceal than my 45 Shield.

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Old 08-17-2017, 07:09 PM
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I have a 38 Spl and its a pretty good gun I think it hits hard for a small frame revolver
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:01 PM
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I doesn't matter whether I have a .380 or .45. I've decided that if I'm forced to pull a trigger it ain't gonna be just once.
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:33 PM
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I watched the video, but unless I missed it he never stated the weight of the bullets. While velocity aids in shocking power weight aids in penetration. Was he using the same weight bullets in the 9mm as in the 38?
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Old 08-18-2017, 10:05 AM
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Interesting video, although I'm not sure why he chose 20 yards if he's demonstrating self defense shooting capabilities of small handguns.

He's dang proficient with the J-frame.
My wife isn't a recreational shooter, but every year or so she goes out with me to use her 442.

I think her main intent is just to remind me why I shouldn't cause her undue upset - she can pop 5 into a pie plate at 25 yards every time while I'm not sure I could hit the side of a barn with the darn thing.
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Young guy at the range "jokingly" called my S&W .38 an old mans gun. I asked him it he'd ever been shot by one. He changed the subject.
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Old 08-20-2017, 10:44 PM
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I must believe a good .38 Special load is enough. It's all I've carried every day for eighteen years, since I left automatics to return to revolvers.

"Old man's gun"? Fair enough. I'm an old man, and I like and trust my 640 in .38 Special.
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Old 08-20-2017, 10:50 PM
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I'm far from an old man. And right now on my coffee table sits two 10-5's and a 640 (loaded with GD 135 38+P)
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I knew a guy who killed a charging cougar with a .22 revolver. So, yes.
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Is the 38 good enough for defense??
You'd think that in the 119 years since the .38 Special was first developed, someone would have come up with an answer by now.

But apparently it's one of those great mysteries that'll never be solved...kinda like how did the Egyptians build the Great Pyramid, or that thing about the UFO at Roswell.
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You'd think that in the 119 years since the .38 Special was first developed, someone would have come up with an answer by now.

But apparently it's one of those great mysteries that'll never be solved...kinda like how did the Egyptians build the Great Pyramid, or that thing about the UFO at Roswell.
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I keep my 642 backup near by.
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:14 AM
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I watched the video, but unless I missed it he never stated the weight of the bullets. While velocity aids in shocking power weight aids in penetration. Was he using the same weight bullets in the 9mm as in the 38?
He said the .38 was 125 grains and the 9mm was 124 gr.
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I carried the .38 Colt Special that I was issued in the Border Patrol and in U.S. Customs until they issued the .357. They never began issuing semi-autos until after I retired in 1989. I think they are carrying .40 ca. now. I do not know what they are issued. I still own a .38 Colt Diamondback, although due to the size I don't carry it IWB CC or qualify with it anymore. I do like that revolver, but I also like the fast reload offered by a pistol magazine.
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I generally prefer autopistols for ergonomic reasons. However, I am reasonably confident that sound hits with the standard velocity .38 SWC will do about as well (or poorly) as any other handgun service round. Remember that handgun rounds suck, and that handguns are what one carries when there is no reason to expect a problem. Take a good look at the sound research and writing on the issue from Doc Roberts (quoted on the first page; he's the heir to Dr. Fackler) and the excellent chapter on the issue from Patrick and Hall in the latest edition of their book - then planning on shooting as fast and accurately as you can until you perceive that the offender is not capable of the actions that justified shooting him (or her) in the first place.
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If I ever have to draw a weapon for SD.. I really doubt the person I shoot will laugh at me because it was ONLY a 38spl.
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After reading this I say hell yes the old timer 38 is plenty good. Even if it did take a couple of shots.
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.22 WMR from an NAA is good enough if I'm shooting at you. You'll certainly decide pretty quickly that you have better things to do at that moment . . .
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