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Old 07-23-2017, 08:31 PM
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Keep in mind there could be a 12 gauge breaching choke pressed under that peephole with someone waiting for it to darken.
Yeah, felons don't generally get access to those, and if it's the cops, they're coming in no matter what. Adjust your tinfoil hat and hunker down . . .
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Everyone's situation is different, but their is no harm in taking reasonable precautions. Something else that I think is mostly true: "Nothing good ever happens after midnight!"
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This has alternately made me laugh and take pause at the wide range of responses.

However..........

I will say this: EVERY home invasion, breaking & entering, burglar shot by homeowner/tenant, homeowner/tenant shot by burglar/intruder, etc has ALWAYS started the same way:

"someone was knocking at the door"

You can interpret that anyway you like.

And, yes I have investigated a lot.
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When the doorbell rings and Nobody I know has called and said They were coming over I just say 'wait a second' and drop the bolt on My A-5. Only because it's louder than an 1100. Only thing I do differently now is when I let the dog out before bed. I actually carry the A-5. It seems the new approach to home invasions is to watch a neighborhood for days and see who lets the dog out. They hide close and follow you back in. Be careful out there!
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:39 AM
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Something else that I think is mostly true: "Nothing good ever happens after midnight!"
In my younger days some of my fondest memories happened after midnight...
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Old 07-24-2017, 08:25 AM
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Buffalo Springfield was right.
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Old 07-24-2017, 09:27 AM
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Well said sir! And, no intention on my part to criticize other posters about having something in a pocket when they answer the doorbell. I still think the potential for danger is still largely location dependent
And maybe some is about the dwelling too. Most of the front of my home is windows, including windows encased on both sides of the front door. It's no secret who is walking up or at the door or what vehicle like a large brown delivery van with UPS written on it is out front in the street... or proud parents waiting on the walkway observing their little darling at my front door selling me cookies.

That type of environment is a lot different than living in an blind box like in the video where maybe all all the person has is a small peephole in the door which may reveal little about who is at the door and no view outside of anything else. I can understand a person being more cautious of that which they cannot see.
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I am a 65+ Montana FFL S&W magnum revolver smith and backcountry guide. I am always legally armed 24/7. I live fire practice every day rain or shine. I am a powerlifter for exercise. Also have German Shepherd dogs. The threat here is grizzly bears so I carry a custom (by me) model 500 stoked with 500 grain hornady rounds and a (custom by me) 460 backup loaded with 395 grain corbon. If I am deep in the wilderness I also carry a custom (by me) marlin 45-70 with 540 grain super hard cast hammer heads. Bear spray does not work against an angry grizzily bear with cubs as has been demonstrated here (again) just a week ago. There is no crime here except meth related and they kill each other and they have never bothered people outside their own criminal drug interactions. Generally they are found dead floating down the Flathead (3 last month).
RIGHT. Cuz we know druggies NEVER steal to support their habbits.
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:57 AM
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I lock my door when I go check the mail or bring the trash cans back. Who knows, some criminals wait for such moments and sneak into the house or stop you from closing the door when you go back in. Better safe than sorry.
You realize that you are vulnerable while fumbling with your keys to re-enter your home and also that if someone is going to stop you from closing the door, this risk still exists when you re-enter the home. At some point don't you just have to declare that you do or do not control the ground and act accordingly. This means changing the landscape to eliminate blindspots, changing your demeanor to eliminate any perceived weakness and varying your routine to eliminate predictability.
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:21 AM
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I am a 65+ Montana FFL S&W magnum revolver smith and backcountry guide. I am always legally armed 24/7. I live fire practice every day rain or shine. I am a powerlifter for exercise. Also have German Shepherd dogs. The threat here is grizzly bears so I carry a custom (by me) model 500 stoked with 500 grain hornady rounds and a (custom by me) 460 backup loaded with 395 grain corbon. If I am deep in the wilderness I also carry a custom (by me) marlin 45-70 with 540 grain super hard cast hammer heads. Bear spray does not work against an angry grizzily bear with cubs as has been demonstrated here (again) just a week ago. There is no crime here except meth related and they kill each other and they have never bothered people outside their own criminal drug interactions. Generally they are found dead floating down the Flathead (3 last month).
Some day, when you are out walking with your 20# of guns, you are going to slip and fall into a mud hole and drown. The mourners will say, "But his guns were are all custom(by him) and the ammo too!" Some smart aleck in the back will say, "And they were all heavy!" And that's no thinly veiled advertisement!

What I don't get is all the different calibers of weapons. If it's all custom(by you), then why not a custom .500 lever action? Or were you trying to write your phone number into the story as well?
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:02 PM
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Buffalo Springfield was right.
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I do things by 2 is one and one is none approach to life.
This is exactly what I argued before my last divorce about my lady on the side--but it did not fly with my Ex. I hope you have better luck.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:34 PM
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when i camp in wilderness i go ten to twenty miles in on foot with 75 pound 7500 cubic inch pack from mystery ranch. I bring irridium satcom with emergency medical evac enabled. i pack MREs and do not cook food or start a camp fire. I pack portable solar cells to recharge with. I pack digital NV so I can move at night without disturbing wildlife and enjoy observing them.
I took less stuff away to college when I first went . . .
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:05 PM
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Like a bear attack, you don't have to be faster than the bear, just faster than the guy you are with. DITTO your home, the softer target/more value potential appearing will be more likely to get hit. I grew up in such a house. Easy for anyone to park & come & go at almost any hour without raising suspicion. Once in/on the property nobody on the outside could see them. the time they got us was at night with 2 dogs (one poisoned, the other shut in the laundry room) and 5 adults there.I used to sleep with my ground floor windows open and woke to people creeping by twice, that I know of. One late night I opened the basement curtains to find a guy with a screw driver under the glass door, another was an attempted push in type with my mother (the dog handled that one, and another 2 neighbors got hit the same night as us. My buddy a short 1/4 mile away never locked their doors & never got hit, or attempted, as far as they know. SO just cuz it hasn't happened SO FAR is no reason to believe it never will.

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It's the difference between living in constant fear and just living . . .
^^ what he said!

I would go nuts living like that. I don't leave all my doors open, etc.; but I also don't cower when someone's at the door. "Situation awareness" I get, paranoia, I don't.
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This silliness is still going on? I see it's well into its fourth day now, and apparently with no end in sight.

Who needs the Comedy Channel, anyway?

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You realize that you are vulnerable while fumbling with your keys to re-enter your home and also that if someone is going to stop you from closing the door, this risk still exists when you re-enter the home. At some point don't you just have to declare that you do or do not control the ground and act accordingly. This means changing the landscape to eliminate blindspots, changing your demeanor to eliminate any perceived weakness and varying your routine to eliminate predictability.
I have anxiety issues. Everyone does these things differently (as you can see in this thread), there may be problems in the plans and I am sure some things I do are stupid, unnecessary and/or paranoid. But it is just what I do.
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I do not do anything in life because of the odds involved. I try to prepare for the possibility of something that might happen.
There is no way a person can come to my front door after dark. If they do, they have gone to great lengths to be there. My front door is set up so that when there is a question about who might be there, they are in a crossfire from 2 sharp angles. We can see them, but they can't see us. We have plans in place for these sorts of things.
After reading all the posts, it seems that I am still the only one who has been the victim of a home invasion. I was successful, they were not.
I will promise each of you one thing, IF it happens to YOU, you will have a whole new respect for having plans in place.
It's up to each of us whether you want to play the odds game. As for me and my folks we prepare for the possibility of it happening.
Good luck, I hope none of you ever have to face 3 home invaders at 3 AM. I have and even though we prevailed, to this day, I'm not over it. I hope I never am. Odds or possibility, make your plan and take your chances.
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I don't live in the safest of neighborhoods. In 5 years I have been burglarized twice. I have 3 grandchildren living under my roof so I am a little protective of them and, as such, I don't keep firearms stashed in places in the house.

A mouse gun in my pocket is no different than carrying an inhaler or a pack of Rolaids. It's there if I need it.

Fear? No. Paranoia? No.

Thinking ahead like Bobby Fischer? You betcha.
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I stopped at a Ruby Tuesday's in Cullman for lunch once several years ago on the way back from Pensacola Beach. The only Ruby Tuesday's I've ever been in that didn't sell beer. My vision of the community has been colored thereafter . . .
So you drove an eighth mile off the interstate, ate in a fast food chain....and left with a bad impression?
Wow.....
I've never dined in a Ruby Tuesdays....Anywhere.
Ours may genuinely suck....I've never been there...
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So you drove an eighth mile off the interstate, ate in a fast food chain....and left with a bad impression?
Wow.....
I've never dined in a Ruby Tuesdays....Anywhere.
Ours may genuinely suck....I've never been there...
You have described my experience exactly, although Ruby Tuesday can't properly be described as a fast food chain, and I suspect it was further than one eighth of a mile off the interstate. A chain, surely, but a sit down restaurant with real silverware. I would have liked to have had a beer with my meal, an experience that every Ruby Tuesday I have ever dined at offered, and believe me, I've eaten at them all over the continental US. It would be nice if Cullman posted big signs at the city limit describing your impending journey into Prohibition. The restaurant did not meet my expectations. Since you're not exactly an expert at the Ruby Tuesday's experience, you really have no basis to criticize. And you offered your unsupported opinion why?

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I've lived here many years in a dry' county...
You start day drinking and decide all of a sudden you'd been insulted? It happens . . .
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By no means am I one to be critical of those that carry in their homes. I get that it's a personal preference. Me personally I don't. It's not because I'm complacent in my environment or that I don't think bad things can't happen to bad people. You see, I spent almost thirty years in either a uniform with a Sam Browne strapped on or in a long sleeve starched shirt button down shirt, tie, and a sport coat with a side arm stuck in my crack holster or some other form of carry, along with a pager and a cell phone that was the size of a large brick. So now me's be retired. My residential mode of dress is just NOT conducive for carry and it ain't gonna be. Oh, I could. But just how stupid would I look walking around the house in my BVD's (white) or nylon shorts with an 1.5" belt equipped with a holster for a Model 36 plus the two speed loader pouches or a shoulder rig. I could slip on a pair of black full quill Justin's and the new custom creased panama straw hat and be a little more formal, but why??? As to how we answer the door for unannounced visitors, that's classified. However, we do have a more respectful postman and the grandson calls before arriving. Think he may have talked to the mail carrier. Be safe, it's a jungle out there. hardcase60
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I knew darn well the shoulder holster part should have been left out. However, IMHO the pic makes my point valid. Plus we are back to the unannounced visitors. LOL hardcase60
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One ounce of prevention is worth more than a casket. Casket, I mean case closed.
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A mouse gun in my pocket is no different than carrying an inhaler or a pack of Rolaids. It's there if I need it.

Fear? No. Paranoia? No.
I also pocket carry. LCP carries unnoticed like my wallet. I don't think about it during the day unless talking to you fine folks about gun carry in general.

As far as carrying in the house, I do. I'm in and out of the house a lot during the day. The idea of disarming myself every time I walk in the house and then rearming when I walk out the door again is silly. Besides, I'd never remember to anyway. I'm in the habit of tossing the LCP in my pocket in the morning, and that's the best place for it throughout the day.

Gun carry can be emotionally stressful and/or physically uncomfortable for some folks. If they wish to relieve themselves upon entering their home by disarming that's their business. But to suggest that those who are mentally and physically comfortable with gun carry both in and away from home translates to being paranoid? No.
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Yeah, or a quarter-pound of C4 with a remote detonator.

Or a couple of big guys with a battering ram, maybe Vikings wearing horned helmets and stuff. Or who knows what all.

Best bet is to just stay away from the door.

To be really safe, though, why not just brick up the front entrance. Really. I mean, who still uses the front door to enter their home? They're mostly for show, anyway.

" How did things ever get so far? I don't know. It was so unfortunate, so unnecessary. "


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