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Old 08-10-2017, 12:34 PM
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Let's see now. .22 caliber? Nope. Single shot? Nope. $399? Oh (expletive deleted) no.
You can get a dinky little .380 pistol if you need something little to carry.
Now if it also had a cigar cutter and lighter and cost around $50 maybe.
At least it'd useful for something.
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Let's see now. .22 caliber? Nope. Single shot? Nope. $399? Oh (expletive deleted) no.
You can get a dinky little .380 pistol if you need something little to carry.
Now if it also had a cigar cutter and lighter and cost around $50 maybe.
At least it'd useful for something.
If you are a good shot I would imagine you could light a cigar...
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I would think an 18+1 9mm duty pistol would be marginally more effective for defense.
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Looks like the fumble factor is guaranteed.
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I honestly don't see any use for it, especially not for four hundred bucks. Interesting that it's made in Asheville, North Carolina. Perhaps at one of those mountain craft shops? One thing for sure, the guy featured on their website is in dire need of a manicure.

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Id carry a ballpen hammer before carrying that
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Carry it???? I wouldn't even want to TOUCH it!!!!
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You'd seriously have to be nuts to even want to touch one of these worthless "guns".


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I look at my NAA 22 Mag. And think, this is not the only gun I want in my pocket if a gun is needed. My 442 and the NAA would be OK. I'd just rather have Two J-Frames. That little single shot would be a "no".
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I ran accross this online. It is a credit card size single shot .22 lr.
I am not sure if this is really that big a deal since it doesn't appear to
be that much smaller than a shield and the shield has much more
functionality. Also fumbling to open it up seems like a bad idea.
Any thoughts?

here is a link:

Products - Trailblazer Firearms
It might be useful if a person ran out of rocks and sticks. Other than that, it's a big budget noise maker.
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No, I have a M&P 40c & 9c, if I want to pocket carry then I take my Kimber Micro 380. A single shot .22 LR not even an option, if I had go with a .22 the I would use my 422 or my M&P 22
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les b and others have nailed it - I have a little NAA .22 Mag for occasional low-profile carry. It's difficult to shoot - but shoot it does - and it has five rounds in sorta reasonable safety. I just fired it yesterday with .22WRF - the bullets all keyholed at five yards - but they all hit the paper! That one-shot .22 doohickey would/will be a disaster...
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Rather have my bug NAA 22 mag, 5 shot.
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I have one of those NAA .22lr revolvers. I think it's smaller than this, although a little thicker, and it is a five shot. Fits in your jeans watch pocket. I sure wouldn't pick it as my primary gun, but I did used to carry it in my shirt pocket when I was in uniform.

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As a back up YES, a only gun no way!

Back about 5 years ago in the Albany NY area a retired state trooper had one of those tiny guns on him. Something went wrong and it did a AD in a shopping center store dressing room when he was trying on clothes.

In this area it started the usual anti gun rhetoric and of course it went off the wall for weeks. I do not remember now what if anything happened to the retired trooper.

IMNSHO wonder why a person I would consider to be Gun Wise carry such a "weapon" I regularly carry a S&W Bodyguard .380 or a Ruger LCR.38+P which is a bit bigger, much more appropriator and just as easy to conceal in a pocket holster as that "weapon"
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As has been said, a rock or a knife is a better weapon. In some cases, a knife, cudgel, rock, blackjack, ect., is more useful than any handgun, and in many self defense situations still a capable weapon in any case. The firearm's primary advantage is distance, more than any other factor. A rock, a club, a hammer, a knife can be whipped out and used quickly and violently, this little thing is too slow for a self defense short range fight, and it only offers you one chance with an inferior caliber to perhaps stop an attacker.

I like full size steel frame guns for many reasons, and one advantage is they are heavy and strong enough for close range combat. A 1911, a Hi Power, steel revolver, can all be used as powerful crushing weapons, something a light polymer does not do very well. Unloaded, my 3 pound M 27 can still bludgeon an attacker, something this card is utterly worthless at.

Think of it this way: let's have a gladiator style fight to the death between someone carrying an unloaded N frame 6 inch barrel revolver in a side holster against someone with a LifeCard 22 folded up card style in their pocket loaded. Depending on the distance, there is a good chance the guy with the loaded gun will be tied up, or bludgeoned, by the time he can employ his firearm, and if he pulls the shot anywhere but a major vital organ, he'll be fighting the guy hand to hand anyway. Its a silly hypothetical, perhaps, but maybe telling.
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les b and others have nailed it - I have a little NAA .22 Mag for occasional low-profile carry. It's difficult to shoot - but shoot it does - and it has five rounds in sorta reasonable safety. I just fired it yesterday with .22WRF - the bullets all keyholed at five yards - but they all hit the paper! That one-shot .22 doohickey would/will be a disaster...
5 yards would be absolute max range to even think about shooting a threat so I can not sat that keyholing at that distance is a bad thing. Imagine what a keyholing .22 mag would do
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True many people shot run away, sometimes even to drive themselves to the hospital. I had a dispatcher shot through the heart drive two blocks before he expired. Unless a CNS hit a handgun is a relatively slow physical stopper. Most people stopped by a handgun, stop because they no longer want to play cops, and robbers.

Actually pepper spray takes effect after about 10 seconds. That is still a long time, and there is the distance thing. I tell most people, deploy, then get the heck out of there, IOW RUN. Don't just stand there to see if the method used worked. Same with a cane, or a stick, beat them until they back off then get away.

I see the Lifecard as useless, even loaded it would take too much time to put it together. And then it only has one shot, a cane is a much better SD weapon than the LC. Does not need to be put together, and it never runs out of ammo.
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I wouldn't even THINK about carrying that.
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I would not carry it even if it was FREE

Not even if they PAID ME

I have no trouble carrying real firearms
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I would not accept that as a gift.
$399 ???
I'd prefer to donate the money to a veteran who need helping hand or my church.
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Talked about failed market research. You're coming in way over the price point of your competition, the NAA Mini revolver. It works and has a track record. Your device is fidgetfumblefuss.

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I used to carry a NAA 22 in my shirt pocket too, when I was in uniform. I never took it home though because it looked like a toy it was so small and I was afraid that my kids might get a hold of it.
This is the MAJOR CONCERN I have with these guns. They are toy like and inviting to children. I wanted to shoot my Uncle's all the time when I was younger. I recently had a recalcitrant five year old reach into my pocket unexpectedly. I had removed all harmfuls as I had anticipated playing with her. She got the lecture of a lifetime after I shutdown my automatic countermeasure reaction to the grab.

I carry the .22 Short version and I practice with it frequently. The HP bullets don't expand well. The higher velocity bullets tumble nearer ten yards than five. The low velocity stuff tumbles at 5 yards regularly.
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It sure isn't worth $ 399. I can buy an AR pistol for that.
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This was brought up on another forum with similar responses. I find the company's position on the gun interesting:
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'We'd like to emphasise LifeCard is not a pistol that should be relied on for personal defense.
Rather, we consider LifeCard to be a fun addition to anyone's firearms collection.
We hope that LifeCard's uniqueness may entice new shooters to our industry.
'But Trailblazer Firearms has never intended LifeCard to be used as a primary personal defense weapon.'
I really cant imagine a SS hard to load .22 with a bad grip and no sights will 'entice' anyone into shooting. Not anything I would own.

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That would be a hard no for me. It's totally impractical.
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And possibly in some ways dangerous. The folding action adds to that.
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...the NAA mini revolver would be a better choice by far...I have one...



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If you're the guy in the video, kudos to you for getting it done. The biggest accuracy killer I see in the NAA Mini is the trigger. Mine was terrible. I did a trigger job and recontoured the hammer spring. I believe it made a world of difference...
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If a J-frame is really too big to carry conveniently, I would rather carry one of the many auto-opener knives than this gimmick.

More reliable, more alternate uses, able to be applied more than once in an encounter.

And did I mention, more cost effective?
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I wouldn't carry it it you gave it to me for free.
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No thank you. My Shield is as small as I go.
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To quote the late great Lt. Col. Jeff Cooper:

"It's a poor execution of a good idea"
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Same size, maybe weight, as a pocket knife. I will carry the knife.
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I think it will work well.
When you pull it out, the bad guy will be laughing so hard
he won't be able to control himself. You will be able to
run away. (But don't count on it)
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IMHO, if you're going to carry a firearm, carry a firearm.
completely agree- this will make people have a false sense of security - a single shot .22lr? you're bound to just piss someone or something off with that. and it doesn't look comfortable or safe to shoot, no sights... junk to me.
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Wow, only $399.00 for gun that I doubt I could deploy in under 2 seconds in a stress filled situation. Too many things could go wrong, with such a multi step deployment single shot. I feel this is an accident looking for someone to trip on. The price point is too high as well. I would rather use a jennngs jamomatic .22 than this over priced single shot. I have no doubt we will see this in a law suit soon due to a self-inflicted gun shot wound. Just my thoughts from the smoke filled big sky country.
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Some ideas are better left as ideas.
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When there is a lot of good options, don't take a bad one.
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I would carry it from the gun store to my safe, providing it wasn't to expensive.
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I would not give $3.99 for that *** !!
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I sure wouldn't bring it to a knife fight.
Neither would I, my short barreled 12 gauge is a much better choice. :-)
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But you all have missed the critical part, it is endorsed by the anti-2A crowd, it coincides with their gun control agenda ... visualize the uncontrollable laughter and antics of the typical BG when they ROFLAO as you pull it and start to assemble it in the midst of an armed encounter!
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Well I guess this means no centerfold in the Blue Press for this gun!!!
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I accidentally started another thread on this prior to being notified by another member of this thread.

I think that many of you are missing the point. Not every firearm you own HAS to be of practical use. If that were so, half of the collectors on this site would be considered idiots as well.

This gun is useless. It has limited practicality for any realistic reason. It IS however, a fantastic investment. Niche guns like this come and go. One thing is for certain in the firearms world, rarity in many cases breeds demand and $$$.

Cases in point:

COP Derringer - could buy for $400 or less when new. Can't get one now for less than $1000. the ones I had have always sold for over $1000 within days of listing.

Downsizer WSP - cost a few hundred when new - now? They sell for well over $1000 all day long.

Interarms PPKs of all flavors - could barely give them a way back in the day. Now, check what they SELL for on gunbroker. I am sitting on a mint Interarms stainless .32 PPK that I have been offered $1000 cash for. I can wait another few years and double that.

Bravermen Pen Guns - same story.

When I was a young man, you could snatch up as many Model 28s as you could carry for $200 each. I have 696s as well. I also had a Bond Arms derringer gold barrel set in .44 mag. They quit making barrels in that caliber. I sold the barrel set alone for $500. You all know what the old classics are going for now. If we could go back in time we would have backed the truck up and bought as many as we could in anticipation of the future appreciation.

Why? because they don't make them anymore. Collectors want the unique, the odd, the rare, etc. I made a mint selling hi-cap mags during the weapons band back in the 90's. I also made a mint selling 5.56 ammo during the shortage. No scalping, just good old foresight of future conditions.

If nothing else, it is an example of an American entrepreneur trying something new. I GUARANTEE this little gem will be worth multiples of its current list price within a decade.

I also own some crazy fountain pens, watches, etc. that are not necessarily capable of doing anything a cheap Bic or a Timex can't do. I own them because I can. They bring me the pleasure of ownership and I can always turn them all into more cash than I paid for them in the future.

If we are going to assess the value of every gun based on what cheaper firearm could do the job better, or what the capacity is or whatever, this entire site is irrelevant because a Glock 26 does everything better and cheaper than our beloved J-frames using the same logic.

That said, I still love to carry my J frames because SUBJECTIVELY, I like them more. $399 for an example of a niche little bit of machining and engineering for no other reason than the neato factor is a good enough reason for me.

Firearms are a perfect storm of utility, necessity, investment opportunity and physical asset in which to park $$$ off the grid so to speak.

Just saying... it is good to look outside of the box every now and then.
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By the time you realize that you need it, reach for it, draw it and unfold it? Someone with a knife 21 feet or less away would have you. Your best response it to turn and run like hell. or leave directions as to which mortuary you want.
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Quoted in part from NOQUARTER post #95
"This entire site is irrelevant because a Glock 26 does everything better and cheaper than our beloved J-frames using the same logic.

I understand your point regardimg collectability and don't disagree with your proposition, although if I were investing in a gun to appriciate I would choose one that at least functioned. (I mean the Edsel was not really a bad car, it was a marketing disaster, unlike, say, the Yugo.

Never seen a G26 that can do what an M640 or M60 or even M340 can do, put out five one hit stoppers. Maybe if you WANT FTF, FTE, FOOB, the semi is a better bet. Maybe a Taurus 605 can do what a M60 can do only cheaper.
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I have one of those NAA .22lr revolvers. I think it's smaller than this, although a little thicker, and it is a five shot. Fits in your jeans watch pocket. I sure wouldn't pick it as my primary gun, but I did used to carry it in my shirt pocket when I was in uniform.

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You might make someone angry if you shot them with that.
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If I get in a gun fight I hope my opponent uses this single shot.
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