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Old 09-30-2017, 06:19 PM
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just passed cwp....question- how do you conceal carry if you are wearing a shirt that must be tucked in- as in wearing a coat and tie. If the gun is inside waist band won't it still show if shirt is tucked in-how would you conceal it?
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Old 09-30-2017, 06:37 PM
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I always tuck my shirt.

I have a Lobo Leathers offset clip that I can easily tuck around, blouse the shirt and I'm good to go. AIWB

There are a lot of 'tuckable' holsters out there, just need to look around.
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Your inquiry is confusing. No need to tuck if wearing a 'coat and tie.' The coat obviously conceals.

That said, a Remora or a j-hook IWB holster will answer your question.

A Remora/gun is utterly invisible if worn properly...with a shirt tucked in around it.

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just passed cwp....question- how do you conceal carry if you are wearing a shirt that must be tucked in- as in wearing a coat and tie. If the gun is inside waist band won't it still show if shirt is tucked in-how would you conceal it?
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I carry IWB under an untucked shirt. In the event I can't wear an untucked shirt but am not prohibited from carrying a gun, I pocket carry (chances are if I have to wear a tucked-in shirt I'm also somewhere that prohibits carrying a gun). The biggest drawback is drawing while sitting, which can be awkward at best, or drawing while moving.

Tuckable IWB holsters are an option. I've never used one, though. If I were to use one, I would probably lean towards ones that use velcro to stick to the inside of your belt for a lower profile than clips or loops, but most people probably wouldn't notice or care.

Another option would be a belly band holster worn under a tucked-in shirt. A Kangaroo holster or even a shoulder holster, like one made by Ken Null, worn under the shirt may work, too.

With either option, you should probably pay attention to the color and fabric weight of your shirt as the gun might show through. Others with more experience may be able to chime in on that topic.

You could always use a fanny pack, but that might draw unwanted attention. I use one, but only for jogging.

Some people use Smart Carry, but I don't have any experience with that. It's not a method of carry that interests me. I have concerns about accessibility.

Ankle carry is an option. It can be a good choice if you spend much of your time sitting. Otherwise it can be slow and difficult to draw.

Some people use off-body carry, in a backpack, shoulder bag, purse, notebook, etc., but it's generally not recommended unless you never let it out of your sight and can maintain control of the bag at all times. I don't recommend it unless there's just no other way to carry a gun.

As far as suit-and-coat carry, that only works if you never take off your coat.
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Pocket carry, depending on the size & weight of the gun, or ankle carry also depending on gun size & weight.
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Hubby and I both use this tuckable IWB in the way shown in the video. Having an additional cover like a vest or jacket opens up more choices.

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Easy answer since it was a concern of mine. Alien Gear Cloke Tuck 3. I have 5 of them and can Tuck my shirt over them with no problem. Not expensive, a money back guarantee and they will trade you the shell if you sell your gun and get another. Can't get hurt.
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On those rare occasions, I pocket carry S&W 642.
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just passed cwp....question- how do you conceal carry if you are wearing a shirt that must be tucked in- as in wearing a coat and tie. If the gun is inside waist band won't it still show if shirt is tucked in-how would you conceal it?
Concealing wearing coat and tie is easy. Virtually anything will work.

I carry a Colt Commander iwb most of the time when I'm wearing coat and tie.

I often wear a cardigan sweater under the coat or by itself in cooler weather. Concealment is no trick.

I suspect you have the very common self consciousness of a beginning concealed carry guy: you think everyone is looking and will notice. Don't worry: they won't.

Your self-consciousness will fade with experience.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:50 AM
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Leave your jacket on and shoulder-carry?
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Dealing with CC in different dress modes is a royal pain in you no where especially if you carry a larger gun or even a modern compact gun. The tucked in shirt with no jacket presents problems because no matter how much you blouse the shirt to will increase as you wear it from body motion. Or, if hiddent the gun can be exposed if you reach up or out. The only way to assure CC in such a case is wearing a jacket. If the jacket becomes uncomfortable due to weather or temperature taking it off presents the problem of not being CC anymore.

When I carry CC I have three options. Keep in mind that my EDC is a Remington 380 pocket pistol. When I am at an affair that calls for a jacket I go IWB. If I want to remove the jacket I put the pistol in my back pants pocket and the holster into a jacket pocket. If I am limited to slacks and a polo or tee shirt in warm weather I do not tuck the shirt. I carry IWB with the shirt over the gun. If I am hiking which I do all year round I carry OWB, but in very cold weather I wear an outer coat over the rig and count on quickly opening the coat or lifting the bottom edge if need be.

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1. The larger the pistol the harder to conceal.
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3. Pocket carry of a mouse gun.
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Easy answer since it was a concern of mine. Alien Gear Cloke Tuck 3. I have 5 of them and can Tuck my shirt over them with no problem. Not expensive, a money back guarantee and they will trade you the shell if you sell your gun and get another. Can't get hurt.
That's what I use also. Great company
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Ken Null upside down shoulder holster with airweight 38 sp. Worn under buttoned down shirt. This allows me to take off the jacket, in the extremely rare instance I would wear one. It was the first cc rig I used at work, when absolute concealment was priority with tucked in shirt. Way back before untucked shirts were "passable".
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Old 10-01-2017, 09:42 AM
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Check out the Kel-Tec line. They have a waistband clip that mounts on their weapons. The clip is a wonderful accessory.
I have one on all of my Kel-Tec pistols.
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Googling Dress to Conceal will get you numerous good links.

There are many very good 'Tuckable' holsters out there. Once you find the one that's most comfortable to you, 'Blousing' your dress shirt conceals (as jimmyjones wrote). Blousing is basically letting your shirt be baggy at the bottom, rather than tightly tucked... letting your shirt muffin-top.

It's too bad that your cwp class didn't touch on Dressing to Conceal.
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Getting ready to go to church now, tucked shirt, jacket. Gun is a P229 Legion in a Tucker HF-I OWB belt holster, spare magazines on the off side. The jacket conceals it just fine. I have a fleece vest I can swap out if I really want to conceal later.

I do not carry in a pocket (off duty cop at church does; it isn't concealed and isn't a substantial gun in a substantial caliber) and I do not carry IWB except on very rare occasions.

Concealed means obscured from view; it does not mean undetectable or invisible. Once you get past that misconception concealed is easy.
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I have been carrying since 07, and I love the aliengear holster. I am a bigger guy and I carry mine in the normal police strong side. In the video he kept saying the plastic shell was kydex, it isn't, it is injection molded. They also come with a bag of hardware, grommets, screws and all. So you can adjust it up and down, forward and back. There is room under the belt clips to tuck in your shirt. All you end up seeing is the black belt clips.
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Getting ready to go to church now, tucked shirt, jacket. Gun is a P229 Legion in a Tucker HF-I OWB belt holster, spare magazines on the off side. The jacket conceals it just fine. I have a fleece vest I can swap out if I really want to conceal later.

I do not carry in a pocket (off duty cop at church does; it isn't concealed and isn't a substantial gun in a substantial caliber) and I do not carry IWB except on very rare occasions.

Concealed means obscured from view; it does not mean undetectable or invisible.
Once you get past that misconception concealed is easy.
Well MY own definition of concealed is not noticeable unless patted down or wanded as I live in the peoples republic of NY.

With a lot of people in this state they spot a gun or even think they see one a call will be made to the cop shop and your in a bit/lot of trouble. You can easily loose your permit and quite possibly have your guns confiscated so I tend to conceal very well. I base my choice of weapon and where carried based on the weather and the clothes worn and the threat of where I'm going.

Under a jacket, suit or weather type you can carry just about anything practice. No jacket and or warm I carry on ankle, most times I just pocket carry a J frame size revolver or a body guard .380. To the best of my knowledge no one has ever noticed my pocket carry, including asking my cop friends that know I carry do I have a gun with me and if so where is it. With my large build it hides very well!

Different weather and problem area I will go to a XDs.45,with a ISWB and leave the shirt loose If I'm not wearing a jacket or sweater but for the most part if possible I try to stay out of situations like that.
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I live in the peoples republic of NY.
I feel ya. My son is in Syracuse so his one pistol is here in WA with me. He wants to own/carry to protect his family but the state has made it near impossible.
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If I have to tuck my shirt it's pocket carry for sure and since I normally carry Two J-Frames, the second gun goes in a belly band worn low like a Smart Cary.
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I tried Alien Gear and it was too bulky for me. I've found Kusiak Leather tuckable IWB holsters work very well without the bulk. When wearing under a jacket that I won't be removing, I usually don't tuck. If I want to remove my jacket, I tuck in and my M&P Shield pretty much disappears.
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You can tie up a lot of money in holsters and ammo carriers if you have multiple carry guns and need to carry with several modes of dress. IMHO opinion, I would come up with smallest gun you feel okay with and build a holster collection around it. I sometimes carry a SIG or Magnum revolver but 90% of the time I have a model 649 on me (I am not telling you the 649 is world's best carry gun). I have tuckable and non-tuckable AIWB, OWB, pocket and field holsters for this gun. I can carry it just about anywhere except water skiing.

Maybe, just maybe, you can avoid having two drawers of holsters that you never use.
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You can tie up a lot of money in holsters and ammo carriers if you have multiple carry guns and need to carry with several modes of dress. IMHO opinion, I would come up with smallest gun you feel okay with and build a holster collection around it. I sometimes carry a SIG or Magnum revolver but 90% of the time I have a model 649 on me (I am not telling you the 649 is world's best carry gun). I have tuckable and non-tuckable AIWB, OWB, pocket and field holsters for this gun. I can carry it just about anywhere except water skiing.

Maybe, just maybe, you can avoid having two drawers of holsters that you never use.
I agree. Because of weakness of my hands from arthritis I worked my way from 9mm to 22LR and with execise up to 380. I carry a Remington 380. I practice with it. I target shoot with it. I standardized my ammo on Ruger ARX because in 380 it does as much damage as 9 mm HP.

I have only one holster that allows bme to carry 3 different ways. I have a pocket holster and a Galloway Precision convertible Kydex holster. The Galloway can be adjusted for IWB or OWB use. My total investment in holsters is less than $50.

The idea of carrying a range of guns is unacceptable to me. If I ever have to use my gun to defend myself I want handling the gun to be second nature. By only using one gun for SD familiarity increases. Along with that so does confidence, skill, and accuracy.

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thanks for all the input about concealed carry with tucked shirt. I am hearing good things about Remora holsters for this, and as just a good comfortable IWB holster.
anyone have experience with them....would appreciate comments
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In the ideal world, I would use an OWB holster, but it takes a thigh-length coat to conceal reliably. The next best thing for comfort and accessibility is an IWB holster, which can be concealed under practically any length jacket, sweater or vest. Use a little discretion when reaching something on the top shelf or floor, and you're golden.

I have tried tuckable holsters, but you have to blouse the shirt for concealment. The biggest problem is accessibility, getting the shirttail out of the way. That's true even with elastic holsters that fit under the short.

My choice, if I have to take my jacket off, is a pocket holster with a smaller handgun, like a Springfield XDs or XDm2 Compact in .45 ACP. It's actually easier to reach than a belt holster at 4:30 while driving. If I'm wearing a jacket, I make sure it is outside the seat belt on that side, otherwise it gets in the way. You slacks have to be a little loose with man-sized pockets (your hand fits in over your wrist watch). That's easy enough to check without alarming the other customers.

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thanks for all the input about concealed carry with tucked shirt. I am hearing good things about Remora holsters for this, and as just a good comfortable IWB holster.
anyone have experience with them....would appreciate comments
Like a few of the guys said, it is really a matter of opinion. Like I said I am a big guy, and I generally wear tshirts and jeans. I like inside the waist band (IWB) carry. A lot of guys don't.
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I am not a fan of the soft-sided holsters (sorry Remora lovers), no matter how comfortable they are. I have thousands of dollars invested in holsters, including several "tuckable" versions. They are still pretty bulky, and I don't want questions about those clips hanging on my belt (or those that already know what they are). The best belly-band I've found is the Crossbreed. It is wide, comfortable, and adaptable. For about $50 you get a kydex shell for any handgun, which velcros to essentially any position/location you want. I was surprised how comfortable and easily accessible this is (it barely takes a split second more to clear your tucked shirt and quickly access your firearm). If you have several sizes of the same size pistol (M&P Compact 1.0, 2.0; Full-size 1.0, 2.0; and 5" 1.0, 2.0) they all fit in one of those kydex shells, because Crossbreed has an open bottom design. I can't recommend this system enough for deep concealment (I wear mine almost every day).
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I feel ya. My son is in Syracuse so his one pistol is here in WA with me. He wants to own/carry to protect his family but the state has made it near impossible.
I live just a few miles from Syracuse, in the next county and I have CC. I've heard that the previous judge in Onondaga County (Syracuse) restricted all, I've heard that has changed, have your son re-apply and state in the app. that it's for CC.
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thanks for all the input about concealed carry with tucked shirt. I am hearing good things about Remora holsters for this, and as just a good comfortable IWB holster.
anyone have experience with them....would appreciate comments
I have a couple of sizes of the soft sided holsters and the only time they are used is for putting a pistol in it and laying it on the bedside table next to where I sleep !!

I don't care for the large tuckable holsters as they are quite bulky next to many others .. can be very warm wearing them in a hot climate which makes them susceptible to retaining body odors in the padding ..

If looking for a all leather holster Wright leather Works make excellent holsters that will fit the pistol like a glove .. but be prepared to wait 6 to 8 weeks for them to complete your order ..

I also have several Garrett Industries holsters that combine Kydex and leather linings for a very comfortable single clip IWB/OWB holsters ..
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anyone have experience with them....would appreciate comments
Have several of the Remora holsters and all with sweat shields, here in Florida. Enjoy the flexibility of wearing in any body location I want to the "cant" that I prefer. Also, the ability to simply clean them, frequently to wash off that sunny Florida generated sweat is great.
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I use High Noon holsters. They have normal and tuckable. Great product and great prices. Very comfortable. I wear until I go to bed.
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A suit coat, sport coat...any coat and I carry OWB... in fact I carry OWB only. Not a problem. All that said, if, you need to remove said "coat" there are a lot of tuckable IWB's out there. I am certain there is one for you.

Don't worry, most people, are too busy inside their own little world to notice a bump here or there.

Relax and press on. You will be fine. Trust me. I have been there as well as most here.
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I know it is obvious, but when shopping for work clothes (if dress clothes), ensure you take your carry choice and holster. I retired from the Army in June and went from camos to dress clothes! I took my Shield and IWB with me when I was fitted (Mens Warehouse) for my suits, pants, and shirts. I was really surprised that I needed to go out two pants sizes to ensure I could fit the gun (I tried both AIWB and IWB) a good fit.

I've never tried ankle...I wear dress shoes - not boots...but I may try a J-frame one day. Must train to fight that method, again, I have zero experience in that method.

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I carry my Glock 17 in a Glock plastic holster here in VT. Or, I carry IWB at 1130 no holster.
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