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Was wondering what j frame AIWB holster works for you? I'm looking at pocket carrying strong side and appendix carry weak side due to back pain. Thanks.
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My 640 rides in this Lobo Gun Leather offset belt clip holster whenever I’m not at work. Love it. Ordered one for my model 66 as well. Great customer service as well. Can’t say enough good things.
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I've used these Lobo Leather offset clips AIWB for awhile, all day every day.

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Dark Star Gear builds an AIWB holster that works great for J frames.

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can you tuck your shirt in using these Lobo leather holsters?
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Not that model but they do have a tuckable one now
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They do have a couple j frame holsters already made waiting to ship. Avoid the wait times if the colors and options strike tour fancy
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Though not design for it, I've been tucking around my offset clips for years. Works for me.
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Sticky holster, AIWB, and tucked shirts for deep concealment for me.

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I've used these Lobo Leather offset clips AIWB for awhile, all day every day.

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Those kind of belt clips are not known for good retention of the holster on the belt when the gun is drawn, or when the wearer's pants are dropped when getting undressed or using the bathroom.

Have you had any of those problems?
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AIWB Holsters I Use.
For my 642, I use a Blade-Tech "Klipt":
Klipt J Frame Revolver Holster | Blade-Tech Industries

For my 640Pro, I just bought a Galco "Stow-N-Go":
STOW-N-GO INSIDE THE PANT HOLSTER: Appendix Carry Holsters | Galco Gunleather

Unfortunately, the 640Pro did not fit into the Blade-Tech "Klipt" which caused me to buy the Galco.
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Those kind of belt clips are not known for good retention of the holster on the belt when the gun is drawn, or when the wearer's pants are dropped when getting undressed or using the bathroom.

Have you had any of those problems?
I don't carry AIWB, but I do use a clip IWB holster made by Side Guard Holsters. In the 6+ years I've been using it, it's never become unclipped unless I intentionally removed it, whether it's just day-to-day activities, practicing drawing, or even practicing breakfalls while wearing it. I do think the clip on mine is a little different than the clips pictured above, though.

FYI, Side Guard Holsters offers models suitable for AIWB. While I've never used them, specifically, the quality of their holsters is very good and the prices are very reasonable for the quality. Wait times can be a little long, though. Around 12 weeks, last I heard. And if you're still concerned about the security of the clip, they offer snap-on belt loop models, too.
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Those kind of belt clips are not known for good retention of the holster on the belt when the gun is drawn, or when the wearer's pants are dropped when getting undressed or using the bathroom.

Have you had any of those problems?
Only once and I've been using those two for about 4 years. I'd put it on in the truck on the way to the grocery store and must have had some shirt under it. I stretched to get something off the top shelf and he whole package popped out and landed at my feet. Nobody around, no harm. I'm more careful placing it now. I wear it AIWB so there's additional friction, I imagine if it was clipped outside there could be an issue.

Never had an issue drawing, I wear a thick belt, I don't re-holster my Centennials (no hammer to put my thumb on), I take the holster off, place the gun in it and then put back on.
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I have a desantis model, similar to the lobo above but w belt clip over the cylinder. This actually helps push the gun in against my body making it one of the best concealing set ups I've used.

Pay very close attention to the belt clip however, as mentioned. Many work on spring tension alone vs tucking under the belt for more positive purchase. I've personally seen holster and gun drawn together during training more than once. Ive never met a reputable trainer who recommended this sort, most warn against it as a potentially serious liability.

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I'll echo what cleans up just said. The most common spring tension holsters are not good for retention and should be avoided.

These are a pair of Kydex holsters with a plastic clip that secures under the belt with a hook that must be released to get the holster off. Shown with my 547 & 915 but my J frame also has a positive retention hook.



I also have begun to favor clipless sticky holsters, as they have worked great for me and can be adjusted for comfort or concealment, as well as reversed for weak hand draw if needed.

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My 640 rides in this Lobo Gun Leather offset belt clip holster whenever Iím not at work. Love it. Ordered one for my model 66 as well. Great customer service as well. Canít say enough good things.
My 649 rides in one just like it. My experience is the same. Fast, comfortable, easy on and off and very unobtrusive.
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My holster is Galloway Precision Kydex. It is reversible from IWB to OWB. I carry appendix IWB and at 4:00 OWB. The gun is a Remington RM380.
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For what it's worth (somewhere between a penny and a nickel)
I have been appendix carrying for over 5 years with 9mm and 45's.

I have been through a number of different styles and makes of so called "appendix carry holsters". Some kydex some leather, some single clip centered and some single clip offcentered.

All of these types never worked well for me...being active (in and out of vehicles all day and moving around a lot) all these type holsters continually moved around and required re-adjustment all through the day and I found most of them to be extremely uncomfortable and stiff.

Then I found a leather backed kydex shell that spread the weight of the weapon and stayed put..Have been using it for over 2 years with no complaints.

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Works perfect for appendix at the 1:00 o'clock position, comfortable and stays secure without having to readjust.
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Those kind of belt clips are not known for good retention of the holster on the belt when the gun is drawn, or when the wearer's pants are dropped when getting undressed or using the bathroom.

Have you had any of those problems?
As an instructor I found out many years ago that women have
a problem with holsters because many of them, and also some
men, do not wear belts. So I set out to find alternative suggestions for them.
Women seem to get along well with IWB holsters in the
appendix position. But the clip must be good enough to
cling to just the fabric and not come out on the draw wrapped
around the gun.
I must have tested close to a hundred IWB holsters with clips.
I only found 4 that really cling and won't let go. Those 4 are
Garrity, FIST, Bell-Charter-Oak, and Wild Bill.
In fairness to all the others, they never claimed that their clip
would cling to the fabric like a dog clings to a bone.
That was then, and this is now. No guarantee that the 4 I
mention still use the same clip. Bottom line...I guess it's
trial and error.

Here are those 4, left to right:
Garrity, FIST, BCO, and Wild Bill
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[QUOTE=dben002;139777612]For what it's worth (somewhere between a penny and a nickel)
I have been appendix carrying for over 5 years with 9mm and 45's.
For a little over 40 years I taught at a POST certified Academy. I beat into every recruit the 4 fundamentals of firearms safety. One of which is to never allow the muzzle sweep anything you are not willing to destroy and I would be on them like a cheap suit if I ever saw them use their support hand to "assist" them in reholstering. This usually resulted in them sweeping their S-Hand. Sticking a striker fired pistol into an appendix carry IWB holster, where it's pointing either at your "junk" or your femoral artery just seems wrong to me. I feel a little better about a revolver in that position, but it is still contrary to everything I see as a fundamental safety issue. As a firearms examiner for my agency I have examined only one pistol that had a true accidental discharge in the holster. It was due to a part failure and fortunately no one was injured. That was enough for me. I realize all you guys are adults and are capable of making sound decisions, but keep in mind that mechanical devices do fail.
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I have been appendix carrying for over 5 years with 9mm and 45's.
For a little over 40 years I taught at a POST certified Academy. I beat into every recruit the 4 fundamentals of firearms safety. One of which is to never allow the muzzle sweep anything you are not willing to destroy and I would be on them like a cheap suit if I ever saw them use their support hand to "assist" them in reholstering. This usually resulted in them sweeping their S-Hand. Sticking a striker fired pistol into an appendix carry IWB holster, where it's pointing either at your "junk" or your femoral artery just seems wrong to me. I feel a little better about a revolver in that position, but it is still contrary to everything I see as a fundamental safety issue. As a firearms examiner for my agency I have examined only one pistol that had a true accidental discharge in the holster. It was due to a part failure and fortunately no one was injured. That was enough for me. I realize all you guys are adults and are capable of making sound decisions, but keep in mind that mechanical devices do fail.
Taj....Thanks for the input. I really do appreciate your comments. For that penny to a nickel again I personally have never seen any revolver or striker fired weapon fire itself while sitting in a holster without being touched, especially with the safety on. I'm not saying it will never happen but I just have never heard of it.

I carry with the safety on and have spent years practicing removing the safety on extraction and I have absolutely no problem with that form of carry. Unless I am at a range my weapon never leaves the holster except for cleaning so my mind is ok with this striker fired weapon pointing at my junk...(ps..my junk is 72 years old now and can truly be considered junk).. could be putting it out of it's misery is the humane thing to do....
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Everyone has an opinion on this style of carry. I make holsters and depending on physical makeup and type of gun you carry, this may or may not be the way to go. First off,if you decide to carry this way, I tell my customers have a pair of pants or whatever outerwear you will be using to be one size larger for comfort and fit. I use extra strong spring clips and for the width belt to be used. "j" clips are good too. For the ladies, with a "good" hand fit holster for the gun the spring clips will work 99% of time. This carry is comfortable and easy to access if seated, in a car, kneeling,etc. Pretty easy to defend against a grab also(some I put a thumb break on too). Safety is a concern of course, so a revolver(DA) or a semi auto with first shot DA capability or DA only recommended. Semi's with a thumb safety (SA) only for gun people only suggested. Leather most comfortable and good quality and covers trigger completely. Kydex or similar materials can be uncomfortable. Folks that are heavy or obese not recommended for this carry my opinion, everyone has one. I have seen this carry for full size as well as sub compact autos and revolvers. Hammerless always better, less for something to snag on. Beats pocket carry for sure. Depends on person. Semi will lay flatter of course and more comfort and less profile. Don't go cheap, you get what you pay for. Stay away from junk and nylon holsters. Hope this helps
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Hi All,
There's an important subtlety in the clips on the four holsters CrazyPhil posted. Notice the cutouts at the bottom of the springs. The metal in the partially cutout spring is formed into a "J" shape that clips UNDER the belt, while the rest of the spring goes over the belt. This type of clip is not easy to find, and I've never found one in stainless steel, but I've been using multiple Kydex holsters with them daily for about seven years now and have yet to have one unclip itself. My daily use includes strenuous mountain biking three to five days a week. (Retirement is wonderful!)
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Garrett Holsters have clips with the tab that hooks over the belt to hold it in place .. they work very well and haven't had one come off the belt ..

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Let me just say that it appears you guys appreciate good food a lot less than I do.

When it comes to “appendix carry”, there is this big thing called my belly that’s permanently in the way.
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