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When I visit the in laws ( a 3-10 day trip) I have to think about what to take.
Usually, a 442/642 plus a reload. I really like my .45 Shield now, so it's kind of replaced that.
Lately, though, I'm considering quantity. I prefer a .45 but if I'm going to be gone awhile, I consider my G19 with almost three times the ammo for space and weight.
I guess it's good to have choices!
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I don't change my carry because of events. I do change it due to location.

Around here, it's a Colt DS with one speed strip in my pocket. When I'm forced to go to Portland or Seattle, it's a 39-2 with a spare mag on my belt. If I'm on an extended trip, say, 3-10 days, it's still the 39-2, but an assortment of others to choose from as back-ups, all with an appropriate amount of ammo.

And this BHP is now my Sunday-go-to-meetin' gun. Okay, that one you could say is due to "events".
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Ok, you got me beat there.
Except for my .45 Shield. It would be my last " give up " EDC.
I have the utmost confidence in it.

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Used to carry a Shield 9 with a spare magazine in the pocket. Sold that and while I'm waiting for a 2.0 to arrive, I'm carrying a VP9SK with a spare on the belt. I have a 442 for times that it might not make sense to strap on all that hardware (out to the mailbox, working in the yard, etc.).
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I used to but now I just carry my j and go about my life.
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I carry one of my two Shield 9s. Period.
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No, but I now carry a Glock 19 w/2 extra mags in my car. That is in addition to my EDC.

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No, but I do according to where I will be and whether I can print (or risk printing) or not.

LCP for CAN NOT print days.
PPS for regular CC.
P99AS for when I want more.
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Usually carry one of 2 pistols I own .. Berretta PX4 Sub Compact in 9 for summer carry and my S&W Compact in 40 when heavy winter clothing is the normal wear ..

Haven't carried my Sig Legion P229 in 40 but will after a few more rounds .. it will then be my winter carry ..

I do like the DA/SA with DE cocker platform and wish S&W would come out with a line with those same characteristics ..

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As of now, "events" haven't changed anything.

My most frequent carry is my 431pd. A 13.3oz 32 magnum.

My other choice is a m49.

But I'm thinking on next ccw renewal, I may add my LCR 327 to my license.

Then I can carry both the LCR and my 431 if I think more than 6 shots might be needed.

Both the LCR 327 and the 431PD can use 32 H&R MAGNUM rounds as reloads.

If I'm going to carry two snubs, they both need to be light and use the same reloads.

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Mine is a J frame first, last & always. Long car trips w/several overnight stays will see a second J frame going along.
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Road trips....... a 69xx ...... 12+1 vs my every day carry in the "Burbs of the Burgh"..... 3913NL ....w/7+1.........

Not much thicker and not any bigger w/ a couple of 15 round mag with +2 spacers as backup.........................


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Personally, I am opposed to changing an EDC from season to season or ocassion to ocassion. I suppose it is my military background where the philosophy was to train with your assigned weapon until you could use by rote and maintain maximum accuracy and efficiency. We believe that proficiency is based upon ultimate familiarity, which is based upon spending a lot of time together and working together.

As my hand arthritis progressed I went from 45 to 9 to 380. My edc is a RM380. It is my partner now after nine months. I am confident that I can reliably take out an opponent at 15 yards with it. So why would I change. The more I use the gun the better I become with it. Isn’t that what we want?

At the risk of offending some folks which is not my intention EDC guns are not toys. It is OK to have many guns like children have many toys. Guns are fun. Self defense is not fun. It is matter or life and death. For me the way to deal with that fact is to be achieve maximum efficiency with the the gun I will use if I have to defend myself. My EDC gun is part of me and I am part of it.

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No, but I now carry a Glock 19 w/2 extra mags in my car. That is in addition to my EDC.
So, you have changed you're carry set up.
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The only "event" that causes a CC swap for me is bears in the neighborhood. Then it's a 3" 686+ with 180gr BB. My EDC is the 14+1 CZ PCR, chosen not for capacity but for its DA/SA action.

Two 7rd speedloaders, or spare 14rd mag carried for reloads.

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Heroin use seems to be on the rise around here . So bad things seem to be going around in packs now..
So EDC went from a model 60 with a speed strip , to a Sig M11A1 and two extra mags
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I don't necessarily carry according to anticipated events but perhaps by anticipated threats. We might be talking about the same thing. As much as I'd want to justify my modest collection of carry guns, my G-19 can do it all.

I live in a New York Suburb and travel to Manhattan on occasion. There, I'm more comfortable with my G19 considering that the city has become a target for lone-wolf killers, regardless of what inspires them. With it, I'm competent the full length of a railroad car (85 feet across the couplers). With my J frame and my aging eyes, 85 feet is really pushing it.
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I don't necessarily carry according to anticipated events but perhaps by anticipated threats. We might be talking about the same thing. As much as I'd want to justify my modest collection of carry guns, my G-19 can do it all.

I live in a New York Suburb and travel to Manhattan on occasion. There, I'm more comfortable with my G19 considering that the city has become a target for lone-wolf killers, regardless of what inspires them. With it, I'm competent the full length of a railroad car (85 feet across the couplers). With my J frame and my aging eyes, 85 feet is really pushing it.
I'd be willing to bet that if you were shooting for real, 85 ft. would not be a problem. Your eyes would perform.
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I change nothing. No rotation, no weather related changes, no Sunday/bbq/party/jewelry guns. If I do it's because there are no other options. Usually once or twice a year I am forced to wear an ankle holster

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The only ‘event ‘ that would make me change my edc is if me edc didn’t work.

Of course, I might not be able to change then.
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Richardw: You’re so right and this (carry the same gun in the same place) was drilled into us in the police academy and throughout my 30 year LEO career. Although there are more modern choices today I’m comfortable w/my J frame.
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Nope; I get a different gun in the house or a backup. I don't get changing around carry guns all the time. Same gun worn the same place makes sense to me. If you find one that you shoot better and are more comfortable with, OK I get that.
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I don't change my carry because of events. I do change it due to location.

Around here, it's a Colt DS with one speed strip in my pocket. When I'm forced to go to Portland or Seattle, it's a 39-2 with a spare mag on my belt. If I'm on an extended trip, say, 3-10 days, it's still the 39-2, but an assortment of others to choose from as back-ups, all with an appropriate amount of ammo.

And this BHP is now my Sunday-go-to-meetin' gun. Okay, that one you could say is due to "events".
That BHP could cover all the other needs too.
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I only change EDC once or twice a year for a formal occasion when a pocket carry is needed. Other wise it's my shield 9mm.
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Good to see a lack of mall ninja posturing. Nice to see an adult population on line. I've pointed out to a couple of folks that when the Kenya mall attack went down, there was an SAS training team in country and a couple of them were in the mall when it kicked off. They got their families out, then went back and pulled some more folks out.
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If I'm headed to areas less lovely I hang my MP340 in my old Bianchi upside down shoulder rig, but my PD stays in its familiar pocket role. This old school setup of two j frames just feels right, It's about as tactical as I can swing. I have a complete shoulder holster rig for my Glock 26 that puts 30+rounds on pretty fast tap, but it never goes out anymore the j frames have relegated the Tupperware to permanent nightstand duty.. I have seen too many videos of slides being manipulated by both perps and good guys during the critical moments between life and loss, and I don't like the idea of a grapple length gunfight with a semiauto.

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If I'm headed to areas less lovely I hang my MP340 in my old Bianchi upside down shoulder rig, but my PD stays in its familiar pocket role. This old school setup of two j frames just feels right, It's about as tactical as I can swing. I have a complete shoulder holster rig for my Glock 26 that puts 30+rounds on pretty fast tap, but it never goes out anymore the j frames have relegated the Tupperware to permanent nightstand duty.. I have seen too many videos of slides being manipulated by both perps and good guys during the critical moments between life and loss, and I don't like the idea of a grapple length gunfight with a semiauto.

Gimmie five..up high, down low..
Too slow.
So what happens when the same perp grabs the cylinder?

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What I won't be worrying about is a double feed or tap rack..I will pull and twist clockwise helping the cylinder to rotate counterclockwise by a very hard DAO pull and the offending hand will learn about cylinder gap. I just won't have the after grapple drill that takes slide manipulation.

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I will pull and twist clockwise helping the cylinder to rotate counterclockwise by a very hard DAO pull and the offending hand will learn about cylinder gap.
So if someone grabs the slide you can't just pull the trigger? Or assuming it's out of battery, you can't twist and pull away?

Try that cylinder grab see how it works

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Apples to apples now..after getting a weapon back in control..the revolver is back in action faster. Also the snub offers the least to grab onto.

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What I won't be worrying about is a double feed or tap rack..I will pull and twist clockwise helping the cylinder to rotate counterclockwise by a very hard DAO pull and the offending hand will learn about cylinder gap. I just won't have the after grapple drill that takes slide manipulation.
Well, good luck. As a law enforcement officer, my father got in a foot chase and wrestling match with a ne'er do well. During the wrestling match, the miscreant obtained dad's revolver. With now four hands on the revolver, dude managed to pull the trigger. Once. Dad kept pressure on the cylinder and prevented it from rotating as the bad guy kept trying to fire another shot. Very minor flash burn on one hand . . .
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I only carry my J-frame 640 if there's not other way i can conceal a larger gun. That's only 1 percent of the time.

The other 99 percent, I carry full sized revolvers, 1911's, or a S&W 539 with 9+1 capacity.
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IMO nothing you could CC well is gonna be a fair match up against a terrorist with a hi cap rifle & many spare mags. Holliday season & gatherings tend to involve lotsa hugs & touching, so there's that. To answer the OP's ? Terrorist events, no. Weather/temp, dress, body shape, location/situation YES. Anyone who can feel my pocket carried Seecamp is hugging a bit too intimately. Pretty much anything on a belt (IWB/OWB) or shoulder holster has a much higher risk of discovery IMO.

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Apples to apples now..after getting a weapon back in control..the revolver is back in action faster. Also the snub offers the least to grab onto.
IMO it offers more by being less. I can completely wrap my hand around a snub from the top strap to around the trigger guard. Can't do that with a bigger gun.

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My department's requirements for retirees (at least at the moment) is that we qualify with every handgun we'll carry each year. The longer I'm retired, the less that matters to me. My usual carry is either the Shield .45, Glock 43 or 340 M&P. When the weather gets cold, I might carry a G19 (at least until I can find an M&P Compact 2.0) if I'm on the road or feel a specific need. As someone else mentioned above, I keep a G19 with spare magazines in a gun safe in my truck, so it is uncommon that I would carry one on my person unless traveling.

For this years qualification, I think I'll be including my 66-8 2-3/4". I find I am more and more attracted to the revolvers as I get older and further away from my active duty days. But to answer the original question, no, I'm pretty consistent in the choices I make for carry based on what I feel like carrying.
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Personally, I am opposed to changing an EDC from season to season or ocassion to ocassion. I suppose it is my military background where the philosophy was to train with your assigned weapon until you could use by rote and maintain maximum accuracy and efficiency. We believe that proficiency is based upon ultimate familiarity, which is based upon spending a lot of time together and working together.

As my hand arthritis progressed I went from 45 to 9 to 380. My edc is a RM380. It is my partner now after nine months. I am confident that I can reliably take out an opponent at 15 yards with it. So why would I change. The more I use the gun the better I become with it. Isn’t that what we want?

At the risk of offending some folks which is not my intention EDC guns are not toys. It is OK to have many guns like children have many toys. Guns are fun. Self defense is not fun. It is matter or life and death. For me the way to deal with that fact is to be achieve maximum efficiency with the the gun I will use if I have to defend myself. My EDC gun is part of me and I am part of it.
Excellent thoughts Richard!

I'm pretty much the same, but it isn't because of military training, rather based on my own research/study of how to excel in "combat" shooting.

I sought out my perfect EDC weapon with this in mind, and consider it a long term commitment. Almost like a best friend, and I want that same friend with me always. I plan to carry it until dead, or am otherwise forced to change for health reasons.

I like the same gun, in the same location, always. Really don't even like grabbing my IWB Detective when I'm just running out quickly due to different model and carry location. So I usually don't even do that anymore. Now I just strap up no matter what with my main.

The constant repetition of training with the same gun is only a benefit. When you commit yourself to routine, it will come as second nature eventually. How hard would that be to master between 3-5 different guns and varying carry methods too?

I remember a phone conversation I had with SAA master Jim Martin. He was explaining how he has been point shooting for decades and hasn't used sights in about as long. I inquired on some tips to get me started point shooting, as I would rather not rely on sights, he told me it was "all muscle memory".

After that, I set out creating my perfect "rig", then training to point shoot. Acquired necessary older books from Applegate, Sykes, Fairbairn, Suarez to further teach myself, and have been practicing point (combat) shooting ever since.

This isn't a scolding to anyone who does stuff differently. To each their own, as it has no impact on me. Just one man's opinion, as it might help others.

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I change mine due to weather, when I am wearing a jacket I go with my GP100 in a Don Hume duty holster. Warm weather I am usually carrying a 1911 in a high ride.
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So, you have changed you're carry set up.
No...same carry set up. Just now carry additional car gun w/extra
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I change mine due to weather, when I am wearing a jacket I go with my GP100 in a Don Hume duty holster. Warm weather I am usually carrying a 1911 in a high ride.
Cocked and locked?....or wussified?
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A few posters touched upon reliability in comparing revolvers to semi-autos. Yes, semi-autos can malfunction, particularly if the user hasn't maintained the gun or failed to thoroughly test his carry ammo and magazines in that gun.

I carried a revolver for about twenty-two of my thirty years in law enforcement and the remaining eight years I was armed with a semi-auto. Regarding revolvers: they are not stoppage proof. With a revolver, it is unlikely you'll get that gun functioning again in a heartbeat. A loose extractor rod means you suddenly can't open the cylinder to reload. ham-handed shooters sometimes manage to get a shell casing under the extractor star, in which case, you should use the gun like a rock. A build-up of unburned powder under the extractor star, again from improper reloading technique, means you suddenly can't close the cylinder. Mess with the strain screw (where equipped) and the gun may not go bang. Put a trigger shoe on the trigger and any slippage of the shoe will disable the revolver.

Carry what you're most comfortable with but the notion that a revolver always goes bang upon pulling the trigger is an erroneous one.
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Assuming winter is an event, yes I do.
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The possibility of a BG grabbing the slide or cylinder and thus avoiding being shot is worthy of consideration. To avoid any such possibilty I took the time to research the Center Axix Relock (CAR) System of gunfighting. It is not a stance like Weaver or Isosceles. It is a system that relieves one of the vulnerabilities of those two stances in a close quarter fight.

I have practiced it for a year, and it is my choice of defensive action. There is an article worth notice at the URL below. It gives the highlight of the system and the rationale for it. There is much more infor available,on the Internet. Here is the URL.

Can Center Axis Relock Make you Faster, Safer and More Accurate?
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A few posters touched upon reliability in comparing revolvers to semi-autos. Yes, semi-autos can malfunction, particularly if the user hasn't maintained the gun or failed to thoroughly test his carry ammo and magazines in that gun.

I carried a revolver for about twenty-two of my thirty years in law enforcement and the remaining eight years I was armed with a semi-auto. Regarding revolvers: they are not stoppage proof. With a revolver, it is unlikely you'll get that gun functioning again in a heartbeat. A loose extractor rod means you suddenly can't open the cylinder to reload. ham-handed shooters sometimes manage to get a shell casing under the extractor star, in which case, you should use the gun like a rock. A build-up of unburned powder under the extractor star, again from improper reloading technique, means you suddenly can't close the cylinder. Mess with the strain screw (where equipped) and the gun may not go bang. Put a trigger shoe on the trigger and any slippage of the shoe will disable the revolver.

Carry what you're most comfortable with but the notion that a revolver always goes bang upon pulling the trigger is an erroneous one.
Bottom line, Revolvers ARE more reliable than Semi Automatics because they do not rely upon ammunition and the recoil or gas from same to function.

Part breaks or falls off the gun, you fiddle with and loosen or remove screws, add loose accesories like shoes, sqibs, either quits.

Failure to feed, weak magazine spring, inadvertently dropping the magazine, rimlock, semi only.

Failure to eject, I have seen people load around a dead chamber with a split case in a revolver, kinda hard to do in a semi.

Of course thats apples to apples, a K***** semi will beat the snot out of a R*** revolver. And the most important part of YOUR EDC is your comfort level with it.
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