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Old 05-30-2018, 11:47 AM
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I really do not understand w others care if you have a wheelie or a bottom feeder , really who cares?
as individuals we all have a preference to what works best.

just like the annoying guy on the golf course:
why not hit a driver instead of 4 iron?

mm, ok , why does it matter to you kind sir?
I tend to spray my driver to the right and there is a water hazard out there. Conversely, I smoke my 4 iron dead straight out to 215 yrds , 8 times outta ten....
With you 110% . I own bolth. Another one that I have never understood Harley motorcycle riders thinking thats the only bike. I have schooled many over the years. Not a Harley hater by any means and have ridden every model they build at one time or other. Not for me thanks
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Then you have never had major shoulder surgery.
Yes I have. I had open capsule repair at 16 years old. 10 years later I bench pressed double body weight (330 at 165 lbs).
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IF the timing isn't EXACTLY right, the bullet isn't lined up with the barrel and you'll have potentially fatal, catastrophic failure. asap. Speaking of that, if you have a dud( squib), you definitely do NOT want to ignore it and just "pull the trigger". IF it detonates, later, in the cylinder, again, deadly, catastrophic failure.
Has anyone seen a dud from a semi-auto pistol discharge AFTER it was ejected - anyone?
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When I was "young and dumb" I theorized that the perfect carry set up if it was TEOTWAWKI ...... about the time of "The Omega Man" & "Serpico" movies........ a 4" 66 .357 backed up with a Browning HP 9mm.


I avoid the whole argument ...... I carry concealed!!!!

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Has anyone seen a dud from a semi-auto pistol discharge AFTER it was ejected - anyone?
Nary a one in 48 years of shooting for Policing and recreation.
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When I was "young and dumb" I theorized that the perfect carry set up if it was TEOTWAWKI ...... about the time of "The Omega Man" movie........ a 4" 66 .357 backed up with a Browning HP 9mm.


I avoid the whole argument ...... I carry concealed!!!!
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Those two are my favorite firearms!!! K-frame 4in .357 and BHP
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Those guys that claim revolvers are obsolete, have obviously been watching too many movies,or cop dramas on television.
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Then you have never had major shoulder surgery.
Yep, rotator cuff repair. It's all about the rehab.
Running the slide is 95% technique & 5% upper body strength. You need enough hand strength to hold the slide & grip, the rest is technique. Anyone claiming diff racking a slide isn't using a good technique. Compare that to 10-12# triggers, yeah that is a lot harder to work with than a stiff recoil spring. Small hand muscles vs larger upper body muscles.
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50 plus years ago I started carrying with a S&W model 19 and a Colt 38 super auto. Many years and guns latter I carry a S&W 9 mm Shield and a snub nose revolver. Hard to break old habits.

Each has a purpose and a time to carry!

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I still carry a revolver for work, and have gotten used to the comments. There probably isn't a criticism of the revolver I haven't heard over the years, but it doesn't bother me. I have confidence in my ability to use my revolver, and that's all that matters to me. To be honest, I also enjoy annoying people by persisting with my revolver.
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I was in Philly a few years ago when I saw a uniformed cop w/a revolver. Introducing myself I inquired about it and she said she was too old to change when her department transitioned to the Glock, and older officers were grandfathered. She said it in a way that led me to believe that gun had saved her a time or two.
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CCHGN: Have you ever owned or seen a revolver with a timing problem that made it dangerous? I haven't, and I've owned more revolvers than some people have seen. I have, however, seen an auto or two fail to feed. Get real.
I don't know about dangerous, but I've seen a bunch of revolvers over my time with carry up issues. Part replacement, a little bit of cut and file work and back to normal.

As an aside, the vast majority of semiauto failures are user induced, and most revolver failures are wear or maintenance issues . . .
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My first hand gun was a colt trooper I found in a pawn shop in mid seventy"s for $160.00, I reget selling it some years later. I watch the youtube vids on the hi cap nines and find myself wanting one, but end up being happy with my 638 after thinking about it. I carry concealed and don't go to a public range so no one knows what I have on, until I need it, then you will know.
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I find those who criticize revolvers and say they’re obsolete are not gun people at all. They’ve probably never even shot one before. One thing I love about firearms are all the different types that exist. Shotguns, lever actions, bolt actions, 1911’s, single actions, and yes double action revolvers. All have been around longer than the modern semi-auto pistol. If you limit yourself to just one kind you are missing out. And someday, years from now, some idiot will say the striker fire pistol is obsolete. Shoot what you enjoy. Life's too short.
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Lot of good posts in this thread, each handgun has it's own unique advantages and disadvantages. So why not carry both.....
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The only two auto loaders I have are my LCP (for those times when a J frame cannot be adequately concealed) and a new Gen 4 Glock 17. I purchased the G17 for $443 OTD, and it came with Ameriglo sights so passing this up would have been nuts. It’s mostly for LEOSA qualification, coming up next month. I have used my Model 10 snub to qualify in the past (shot 85%) but the reloading times are too tight for a wheel gun, even w/speed loaders, at least for a fumbling old goat like me.
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I won't debate the capacity issue. It will go on ad infinitum, much like 9mm vs 45 and steel vs polymer. There are many real time shooting incidents on You Tube. In every one I've seen, Mr. Bad Guy and his cohorts don't engage, they turn tail as soon as the shooting starts. Said it many times. If you have to reload, it's no longer self defense/personal protection, it's a fire fight. If that's the case, you're in deep you-know-what, doesn't matter what you're carrying.

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I wonder what they'd say to us old fellers who still pack a cap and ball from time to time?

Sorry, but if it worked for Wild Bill Hickok, it will work for you too.
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Well, I've been shooting revolvers since I's about 10yrs old( carried a SA on my hip in KY, for snakes and wild animals) and IDPA for 20 yrs and shot Revolver( S&W Mod66-2), there's pros and cons on both sides of the isle. Sure, revolvers don't have flaws of a Semi, but they have their own set of problems, namely timing. IF the timing isn't EXACTLY right, the bullet isn't lined up with the barrel and you'll have potentially fatal, catastrophic failure. asap. Speaking of that, if you have a dud( squib), you definitely do NOT want to ignore it and just "pull the trigger". IF it detonates, later, in the cylinder, again, deadly, catastrophic failure. IDK about y'all, but I don't like things blowing up in my face. YMMV

Btw, I had to retire my 66, cause fire was coming out of the side, between the cylinder and forcing cone. I replaced it with a Ruger SP101.

My DW wanted a gun, so I took her to a gun show and let her handle EVERY type of pistol. She demanded that it feel good in her hand( carpal Tunnel). She settled on the Walther P99 in 9mm and now has a PPQ in .40S&W. No problem, she comfortable with them and is VERY accurate at the range. Me, after shooting every kind of pistol out there, S&W are the best. I've had ( and shot) Mod 59, 6906 and 6909, etc, but the M&P9 is my new competition pistol. Hands down the best pistol I've ever shot. Btw I carry a Kahr T40. Best DA trigger out there( Like the S&W revolvers).
I have never heard of a dud round firing after it rotated around out of alignment with the barrel in a revolver.
Even if it did, there is no reason to think it would cause a fatal injury.
I have seen revolvers that have blown up with the upper half of the cylinder gone from being fired with double loads of Bullseye or some other high intensity powder loaded by accident in reloads. Some powder burns, maybe small metal fragments, a cut or two, sometimes no injury at all other than hurt pride.
I know of many MORE accidents with autos, particularly Glocks, with their lighter trigger and no safety , where the shooter did not remove their finger from the trigger guard before shoving the gun down into the holster, and shot themselves in the leg, foot, or both.
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You realize guys have done the exact same thing with DA revolvers and DA/SA pistols, right? How heavy the trigger is, or how long the pull is, has absolutely nothing to do with it. The number of guns in circulation, on the other hand...
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I've gone back and forth over the past 40+ years of handgun shooting and currently carry one or more of 9mm Shield, 642 and Remington RM380 depending on environment, clothing and disposition.

I carried a revolver in uniform and switched between revolvers and 9mm autos as a detective. Just before I pulled the pin the department authorized 9mm for uniforms. By then I had short-timers syndrome and had reverted to a Colt Lawman .357 snub. At my last qualification I shot with a group of uniformed officers (mostly younger) who hadn't received their 9s yet. I was drawing from concealment (that's how I carried, so that's how I qualified) and shot a 92%. One of the younger guys started pontificating about how once they were allowed to carry autos like the detectives they would all be shooting in the 90s. I just pulled back my coat tail and grinned.

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(A) IF the timing isn't EXACTLY right, the bullet isn't lined up with the barrel and you'll have potentially fatal, catastrophic failure. asap. Speaking of that, if you have a dud( squib), you definitely do NOT want to ignore it and just "pull the trigger". IF it detonates, later, in the cylinder, again, deadly, catastrophic failure. IDK about y'all, but I don't like things blowing up in my face. YMMV

(2)Btw, I had to retire my 66, cause fire was coming out of the side, between the cylinder and forcing cone. I replaced it with a Ruger SP101.

A: Doesn't happen.

2: About a ten minute fix . . .
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I like a revolver.. you don't have to pick up your brass before you flee...
Boy isn't THAT the truth! Some of my local volunteer "Range Meisters" still try to convince everyone that if the brass hits the ground, "...its theirs..." Yup...'shore... uh huh... 'jew betcha'...

I NOW have my own handgun/revolver range at home to alleviate that issue, and just picked up a brass catcher/net for my hand-loaded Rem 222 target practice. I guess that I am a bit sensitive to others trying to take the fun out of this great hobby...
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I prefer revolvers, but I canít deny that there is truth in this, and I agree. That said, I donít live anywhere near such an armpit of humanity.
I do. I live near Alton. We don't yet have problems like Peoria does, but CC is very acceptable around here.
I carry a j frame but sometimes would like to have a high capacity 9mm.
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Nobody's opinion matters but your own......This is "kinda" like the old old Ford verses Chevy......9mm verses 45acp argument.......That never goes away.
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I have carried a revolver in Fayettnam, and I am still around to talk about it.

Crime rate in Fayetteville NC
According to the table, the overall crime rate is 71% higher than the average of crimes committed in North Carolina. It is also 87% higher than the national average. When it comes to violent crimes, Fayetteville, NC shows a crime rate that is 103% higher than the North Carolina average.


Property crime in Fayetteville is actually a higher rate than Chicago. Violent crime slightly less than Chicago.
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what other's opinions are...its OK....as long as you don't bother me.....
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If you fancy revolvers, as I do also, you can use this to your advantage. There are many people out there who are taking 50 cents on the dollar for their old revolvers as credit towards the latest and greatest auto wonder. That translates, in some cases, to great deals on used revolvers. I just picked up a 99% Model 36 no dash for $339. Last year I traded a Gen 3 Glock 21 straight across for a circa 1966 5" Model 10-5 in near new condition.

Don't complain. Steal their "hand me downs"!
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I was in Philly a few years ago when I saw a uniformed cop w/a revolver. Introducing myself I inquired about it and she said she was too old to change when her department transitioned to the Glock, and older officers were grandfathered. She said it in a way that led me to believe that gun had saved her a time or two.
I was at he Philly airport in 2011 where I spoke with an Airport Cop who was carrying a .357 Magnum. Love me some .357 Magnum.

I donít have revolvers any more, not because I donít like them but because I no longer have cartilage in my trigger knuckle so any DA is difficult for me, so I stick to striker fired pistols.
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One is not ill armed with a good revolver. Plus, there can be advantage to not having empty cases to hunt for and collect at the end of the day, too.
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My family, though versed in firearms and safety aren't as familiar as the different 'conditions', safeties, decockers, how to tell if a gun is loaded, etc. ESPECIALLY the six DIFFERENT semi guns that I have. But I can hand anybody a revolver and they can tell whether it's ready to shoot and how to shoot it first try and if it doesn't fire, just pull the trigger again.. As long as this is true revolvers will not be obsolete.
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In my thirty years on the PD i carried a S&W 38/44 then a Mod 27 and when I became a Sgt./Inv. I carried a mod. 19 4in. until I retired. I just feel better with a wheel gun but I do own a few semis that I shoot.
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Iím still fairly new to revolver shooting...bought my first smith about 2-3 years ago. I shoot them well, but I still shoot semi better. But Iíve been shooting them for 24 years..and had real training/ consistent training in them ( I never discharged a firearm until I was in the Army )...not going to lie it annoys me. I wonder if the more senior members are the other way around due to mil/Leo training?
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The only folks who say that Revolvers are obsolete are Mall Ninja/Armchair Commandos who lack a valid opinion on firearms since their interest in firearms is typically illegitimate, stemming from a need to compensate for their insecurities regarding their own masculinity.

Honestly, who says that Revolvers are obsolete save for posers who assert that their lower capacity is a liability because they believe in "being prepared" even if it is for extremely unlikely scenarios in which they end up facing multiple armed assailants, regardless of how minimal their odds of survival may realistically be under those circumstances? Oh that's right, nobody... Because it's completely irrational for the average civilian to prepare for something like that, and in realistic self-defense scenarios, 5-rounds of .38 Special +P are perfectly adequate.

Don't get me wrong, if you feel that you need more than 5-rounds, regardless of the power factor of the ammo, then that's cool, just don't go forcing your philosophy on others.

By the way, this is all coming from a guy who carries a 7-shot Semiautomatic Pistol, so it's not just me defending my own personal choice of EDC.
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1. Hating on Revolvers
2. 5 Shot Snubby of CCW?
3. Revolver vs. Pistol
4. One big difference b/w revolver and auto

All four topic threads on top, arrayed abundantly in an abundant array.

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5. Hating on Pistols
6. 10 Shot Auto of CCW?
7. Another big difference b/w revolver and auto
8. 8 Shot snubby of CCW?

I have not found the perfect CC or OC sidearm, so I rotate between Shield 40, G27, G29, Micro9, DW pmc cco 45, and Lightweight ss 45 Defender. All loaded with top m.e. UW ammo.

My daily selection depends on my very limited experience, very limited knowledge, variations in my thinking and mood.

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The only folks who say that Revolvers are obsolete are Mall Ninja/Armchair Commandos who lack a valid opinion on firearms since their interest in firearms is typically illegitimate, stemming from a need to compensate for their insecurities regarding their own masculinity.
Subconscious feelings regarding my own masculinity affect every single aspect of my life. What food I like to eat, what music I like, what I think about everything, what I feel about everything, what vehicle I drive, who I socialize with, what and how I carry. But mostly in my preference for revolvers. I only have two, both X frame Smiths.
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I prefer revolvers, but I canít deny that there is truth in this, and I agree. That said, I donít live anywhere near such an armpit of humanity.
Keeps getting worse !!

Feds targeted 15 of the sewer rats from a gang called "THE BOMB SQUAD" in Peoria, Il yesterday early AM and was announced at 1 pm ..A 63 page Federal indictment .. violating RICO Act, drug distribution charges and were responsible for the death of 2 people at an off campus party near Bradly University ..

Also yesterday a 13 year old boy shot a 12 year old yesterday afternoon in Peoria .. the boy shot is in critical condition.. other info is being with held due to the ages of the two boys ..
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The only folks who say that Revolvers are obsolete are Mall Ninja/Armchair Commandos who lack a valid opinion on firearms since their interest in firearms is typically illegitimate, stemming from a need to compensate for their insecurities regarding their own masculinity.
Really, Dirty Harry Callahan? LOL
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Tell the haters that there is nothing that does a better job of developing and refining Trigger Skill than a good revolver used in Double Action. I purchased my first revolver, a 67-1, specifically to insure that I would be able to shoot my Carry firearm at that time well. BTW, my Carry firearm was a Sig Sauer P239 in 40 caliber and anyone who has a DA/SA firearm knows full well that decocking between every shot to hone DA trigger skills becomes rather frustrating rather quickly. Today I have 8 revolvers ranging from 22 caliber up to 45 ACP in addition to a decent selection of Semi Auto pistols, rifles from 22LR to 308 and two shotguns for Trap, Skeet, and Sporting Clays. Don't struggle even a tiny bit with the trigger on anything I pick up and it is all due to a habit of doing some DA training at least once a month.
I have to agree with you. I change between revolvers and semis, but my semis, 2 CZ75BDs and a SD9VE, have DA revolver like triggers instead of a target like trigger. They are more like my 10-8s and 686. Being able to accurately shoot a revolverís longer heavier pull makes me more confident with other guns. When I got my first CZ I was bothered by the long take up of the SA pull. Then I realized that the long pull is to keep as consistent as possible with the decocked DA pull. Frankly, IMO, thatís smart. More consistency in operation. Between the revolvers and long pull semis Iím less affected by changes in trigger pulls and weights than I used to be. So, no hating on revolvers here.
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Keeps getting worse !!

Feds targeted 15 of the sewer rats from a gang called "THE BOMB SQUAD" in Peoria, Il yesterday early AM and was announced at 1 pm ..A 63 page Federal indictment .. violating RICO Act, drug distribution charges and were responsible for the death of 2 people at an off campus party near Bradly University ..

Also yesterday a 13 year old boy shot a 12 year old yesterday afternoon in Peoria .. the boy shot is in critical condition.. other info is being with held due to the ages of the two boys ..
Whitwabit Iím a bit north of you close to Rockford. Same social problem here-spillover from the city-state of Chicago.
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Really, Dirty Harry Callahan? LOL
I'm not laughing, even to myself. It may not be true, but it makes a lot more sense than 93.4% of the bull**** we usually hear about firearms.
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Whitwabit Iím a bit north of you close to Rockford. Same social problem here-spillover from the city-state of Chicago.
Yes same here .. but we get gang members from both Chicago and even some from Rockford .. but both of our causes are from the Chicago area .. They break the laws there then run to our towns to hide out and do more crime .. we have had several Chicago gang members killed here in Peoria in the past several years !!!!
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Keeps getting worse !!

Feds targeted 15 of the sewer rats from a gang called "THE BOMB SQUAD" in Peoria, Il yesterday early AM and was announced at 1 pm ..A 63 page Federal indictment .. violating RICO Act, drug distribution charges and were responsible for the death of 2 people at an off campus party near Bradly University ..

Also yesterday a 13 year old boy shot a 12 year old yesterday afternoon in Peoria .. the boy shot is in critical condition.. other info is being with held due to the ages of the two boys ..
This is terrible and I honestly feel bad and in a way concerned (even though I donít know you) for the honest folk who, in various conditions and complexities of Ďlifeí, find yourselves in the condition where you must live on the brink of this kind of.... savagery. I donít even know what to say besides - ďkeep yer powder dry, brothers.Ē Iíve lived and worked in Boston, MA. And in some seedy parts of it. The absolute WORST parts of it donít even hold a candle. And as I get older, I wouldnít even consider moving back there. Nor could I be so cavalier if I did. If I lived in the edge of some of these truly ROUGH places, to put it kindly, I wouldnít leave the house without two high capacity nines shoulder strapped. Or a 9 and a short barreled 44. Or, somehow conceal a really short mossberg. Trench coat in July, whatever. Iím 6í4Ē and lanky, iíd find a way. That daily kind of low(ish) level Ďfearí (for lack of a better word) must take its toll and grind on you. Iíd have a hard time with that.
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I'm not laughing, even to myself. It may not be true, but it makes a lot more sense than 93.4% of the bull**** we usually hear about firearms.
I see the irony in that post. I really donít care what you find funny. Have a nice day.
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I do. I live near Alton. We don't yet have problems like Peoria does, but CC is very acceptable around here.
I carry a j frame but sometimes would like to have a high capacity 9mm.
Dude, Alton is not even in the same country as Peoria. I’m very familiar with it. Intimately familiar.

And Rochester/Somersworth is not even a shadow of Roxbury, or Mattapan, or Eastie, or Jamaica Plain. Which are not even shadows of places like Baltimore, or the various burbs of Chicago, etc.

I know the disease is spreading and no place is immune. But there are clearly defined levels of chaos and madness that go way beyond.

Even Manchester, which was never very ‘nice’ and only continues to take a southernly nose-dive, has what? A shooting or two every 6 months? These places have multiple shootings daily.
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I dunno, I like my wheelguns, from shooting to cleaning, to just sitting in my lazy boy holding one in my hand, a revolver just connects with me. Even my Dad would argue with me when I was a kid how capacity rules, but I still only owned revolvers ( other than a 1911) until just a few years back when I picked up a gen 4 Glock 17. And went out and shot it. I remember exactly how I felt that day. Like a freaking superstar. Every thing I pointed at, bam, hit it dead center. Could not believe it. Took it over to the rifle area and started shooting 50 yards with the damn thing, Still nailing nice groups. Best day I ever had at the range. Went back to the gun store the next week and picked up a g19 and the then new g43.
The g17 is in my bug out bag, where it stays. G19 in my wrangler, g43 stays on me.
But when I go to the range every month or two, your not going to see me shooting them. Iíll still be shooting my revolvers, only wishing I could hit like that G17 does.
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While I have quite a few semi autos IMO the biggest advantage of a 9mm semi auto is capacity , otherwise I prefer a .357 revolver.
The biggest disadvantage of 9 mm is you might need that extra capacity, compared to .357 Magnum. I draw the line at .357's weighing much less than 30 ounces. They're too painful to shoot enough for proficiency. A 3" 686+ suits me just fine.
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Someone here posted something to the effect that if a dud round was rotated around and away from the barrel, and THEN fired, it could cause a fatal injury.
I don't think so, and there's no reason to believe that. The bullet would leave the cylinder at greatly reduced velocity because the bullet would be unrestrained before pressures could build up much. I'm guessing less than 400 fps. Might nor even damage the gun if the frame were struck. Shooter might get a few tiny pieces of bullet material stuck in various extremities, but not much else.
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No fan of springs and plastic myself, one Ruger 9mm LCP, mostly a summer time out on the Harley for a concealed carry piece.
It's what I consider a up close better than nothing gun.
I can take my wheel guns out to the range and make the steel plates ring out to 150 yards with my long tom .41-.44 magnum. Maybe it's just me never was able to do that with any bottom feeder.
On the other end, 25 yards and old golf balls are a lot of fun with my Model 17.

Too each his own.
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I prefer revolvers, but I can’t deny that there is truth in this, and I agree. That said, I don’t live anywhere near such an armpit of humanity.
Yesterday the Feds arrested 15 perps in the "Bomb Squad Gang".. In Peoria, Illinois !!

A 63 page federal indictment with charges of violating the RICO Act, drug distribution, weapon counts, members were linked to two murders at an off campus party near Bradley University .. Also cited are charges under the Violent Crimes in Aid of Racketeering (VICAR) clause of the US Code ..

Will it make the area safer ?? That's doubtful as there is always someone else ready to fill those that were arrested shoes .. and may well cause a gang war as other gangs will try to step in on the Bomb Squads territory ..

Looks like its going to be a Long Hot Summer !!!
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