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Old 05-29-2018, 09:46 AM
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A lot of the guys at work rib me about being a revolver guy, and I see it a whole lot all over the internet. You know, the Revolvers are obsolete folks. There almost as bad as the old 9mm vs 45 crowd from a few years back. In getting so wrapped up in our own bias, I think we tend to sometimes give really bad advise on both sides of the issue. There are people out there, that are much better suited for one of the other. To take someone who is better suited to a revolver and "Pressure Sell" them on a Semi is not just bad advise, but perhaps a lethal error. For example. My wife just can't wrap her head around a semi. She isn't a novice shooter. She has been shooting for 35+ Years. Everything from the 44-mag to the .22LR, and she carries a snubbie, that she is very proficient with. Yes, the has and can shoot autos. But she strongly doesn't like them, and her scores drop drastically with one, even the Ruger, Mark III-.22LR. Mental, perhaps, but I'm sure not going to arm her with a semi and send her out to the big bad world. Myself, I own and operate both. I recognize some advantages of an auto, but my daily carry is a 6 shot 2" revolver. This is also what goes to the range with the the most. I rarely shoot in SA, typically at about 25 feet. I'm rarely outside the 9 ring, and typically inside the x at that distance with a snubbie. I'm comfortable with this.

I bring all this up, because when my wife goes into a gun shop where we arn't known, aka, not local. (I live in s small community) people always wnat to steer her to the best "Gun for a little lady". We recently had a guy almost refuse to show were the S&W-66. How silly.
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I agree with you whole heartedly.
I started out as an auto guy. When the Army issued me a .38, I was disappointed. I got a .45 as soon as possible. As a private citizen I carried a 9 or 45 for years. But for about twenty years now I have been a .357 fan. My wife also doesn’t care for autos. She loves her 3” .38 though and is quite proficient with it


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While I have quite a few semi autos IMO the biggest advantage of a 9mm semi auto is capacity , otherwise I prefer a .357 revolver.

Revolver advantages are safety and reliability , (I actually know a guy that forgot he had a round in the chamber of his Glock and shot himself in the leg while cleaning it),
Also if you have a bad primer or dud in a revolver you simply pull the trigger again and it goes BANG, revolvers do not have the inherit FTF, FTE, stovepipe or feed ramp jams, reloading is not affected by limp wristed shooters, they are not finicky loading hollow points , you dont have to worry about weak mag springs or having your magazine fall out in the field,
a .357 is more versatile since it can fire .38 special on the range which is fairly close to 9mm ballistics or .357 Magnum for self defense which is hotter than .40 S&W and even 10mm.
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In the context of "civilian-ccw-self-defense", a revolver in the right hands, properly applied, will do the job just fine. "Hating" on revolvers, like all forms of "hate", is based on pure ignorance.
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There is nothing wrong with a revolver for virtually all private citizen personal defense concealed carry. I carried one off-duty for years. My lady friend carries one now as she has some grip strength issues and can not operate the slide on a decent caliber semi. They are operationally more simple than semi-automatics (fewer things you can screw up) and their built-in limitations (slower reloads and more limited ammunition capacity) are not a REAL issue for most private citizens.
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Well, I've been shooting revolvers since I's about 10yrs old( carried a SA on my hip in KY, for snakes and wild animals) and IDPA for 20 yrs and shot Revolver( S&W Mod66-2), there's pros and cons on both sides of the isle. Sure, revolvers don't have flaws of a Semi, but they have their own set of problems, namely timing. IF the timing isn't EXACTLY right, the bullet isn't lined up with the barrel and you'll have potentially fatal, catastrophic failure. asap. Speaking of that, if you have a dud( squib), you definitely do NOT want to ignore it and just "pull the trigger". IF it detonates, later, in the cylinder, again, deadly, catastrophic failure. IDK about y'all, but I don't like things blowing up in my face. YMMV

Btw, I had to retire my 66, cause fire was coming out of the side, between the cylinder and forcing cone. I replaced it with a Ruger SP101.

My DW wanted a gun, so I took her to a gun show and let her handle EVERY type of pistol. She demanded that it feel good in her hand( carpal Tunnel). She settled on the Walther P99 in 9mm and now has a PPQ in .40S&W. No problem, she comfortable with them and is VERY accurate at the range. Me, after shooting every kind of pistol out there, S&W are the best. I've had ( and shot) Mod 59, 6906 and 6909, etc, but the M&P9 is my new competition pistol. Hands down the best pistol I've ever shot. Btw I carry a Kahr T40. Best DA trigger out there( Like the S&W revolvers).
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I agree. I will admit that I have a Walther 380, a Browning Hi Power and an Officers model ACP. None of which have been fired in over 25 years, and one about 45 years. Of course the Browning and Colt are nostalgic, and the 380 will soon be for sale. Less than 20 rounds through it. However, when everything is said and done, give me a revolver any day, and IMHO, the 357 mag for an all around cartridge is hard to beat, and a 44 mag in the hands of a capable handloader is super versatile. They are a better investment too. Semi autos are a dime a dozen on the used market. Just my .02 worth
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I am all for folks choosing their own guns. There are so many options out there, and all of the choices involve compromises in performance.

My needs, experience and capabilities are different from most others’. For me to hoot and holler that my choices should be your choices is rude. However, if I can civilly accept others’ choices while competently explaining mine in an informative and not argumentative manner, then everyone can benefit.

On forums, it’s more about attitude, style, and writing ability than many trigger jerking up-in-your-face yahoos present. Whoops. Sorry. Just did it myself. :-)

Mass Ayoob just posted a Negligent Discharge he had with a revolver. Checked supposedly three times by two people who missed the one nickel plated round in the nickel gun. He closed the cylinder, pointed vertically, and while demonstrating correct trigger pull launched a pill skyward. They are not foolproof.

My wife’s 642 had an ejector rod loosen and bind up the cylinder.

Debris under the star extractor kept the cylinder from rotating another time.

Reliable? Yes, usually, but not always. Easy to load under pressure. No. High capacity? No. But they are the choice of many, and that is all I need to know.

Good for all of you. Have a gun. Travel.

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I am all for folks choosing their own guns. There are so many options out there, and all of the choices involve compromises in performance.

My needs, experience and capabilities are different from most others’. For me to hoot and holler that my choices should be your choices is rude. However, if I can civilly accept others’ choices while competently explaining mine in an informative and not argumentative manner, then everyone can benefit.

On forums, it’s more about attitude, style, and writing ability than many trigger jerking up-in-your-face yahoos present. Whoops. Sorry. Just did it myself. :-)

Mass Ayoob just posted a Negligent Discharge he had with a revolver. Checked supposedly three times by two people who missed the one nickel plated round in the nickel gun. He closed the cylinder, pointed vertically, and while demonstrating correct trigger pull launched a pill skyward. They are not foolproof.

My wife’s 642 had an ejector rod loosen and bind up the cylinder.

Debris under the star extractor kept the cylinder from rotating another time.

Reliable? Yes, usually, but not always. Easy to load under pressure. No. High capacity? No. But they are the choice of many, and that is all I need to know.

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These failures happen because of long range sessions or improper torque checks after range sessions.

If you keep clean and check torque after every range session. You will not experience those types of failures if you need it for self defense.

Revolvers can take neglect better and semis can take abuse better. Meaning if I clean,lube, and check torque on both my semi and my revolver and chuck both in a sock drawer not to be used for 10 years, the semi has a higher chance of failure and may get off one round before possibly jamming due to lack of lube, the revolver will empty the cylinder. But if I take the semi and the revolver out and run a high round count range session, both lubed and properly maintained, the revolver has the higher chance of failing first due to things like dirt under the extractor star, powder build up in the crane area causing the cylinder to bind, and screws backing out after 2-300 rounds. The semi will more than likely put a couple thousand rounds thorough it before failure.

That being said I am an over 10rd semi guy who went to revolvers. I have fired a round in self defense. One with a semi with a magazine over 10 rounds...

I feel perfectly capable with my revolver and I usually don't care what other people are parroting. Again, just smile and nod. It's not even worth debating.

As for gun shops who pressure steer you towards other models or act like they know more than you? I will go in and handle their guns. Smile politely and agree with everything they are saying. Then go purchase somewhere else.
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Each has advantages and disadvantages. I have carried one or another or both at various times.

If you clean your gun once in a while and don't drop it in fine dry dirt or thin mud, there is hardly a question which type is more reliable. If you think there is, you need to learn more or think more, granted that with some bullet shapes many modern slabside guns are significantly better than some older ones. Nevertheless, many autoloaders are quite reliable.

CCHGN: Have you ever owned or seen a revolver with a timing problem that made it dangerous? I haven't, and I've owned more revolvers than some people have seen. I have, however, seen an auto or two fail to feed. Get real.

While there have been times when I wanted the carry convenience, mag capacity and faster reload of one of my slabsides (1911 design), and kind of like the trigger, too, I usually stick with one of my EDC revolvers. Perhaps because I have been carrying almost every day for well over thirty years, I am heavily influenced by the fact that I would much rather unload or load a revolver in the house than do the same with an autoloader.

Others will make their own choices, with my best wishes.
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Yep, Old & Obsolete .. Ya, just can't be tacticool with a old obsolete revolver.

I modernized about a year or two ago, and went with a plastic 9mm shield for a carry gun.. (lighter,, flatter, 8 rds., and easier to carry than my model 60 )

Just encase you want to get rid of those old antiques ,,
I could use them for paper weights and I'll give you 15 cents on the dollar for your pristine model 19's ,,27's ,, 57's ,, 58's and 29's..

And those old 1911's are out of date too...
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It's like motorcycles for me-ride what I like, and shut up about everybody else. If they want my experience, they can ask for it.
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I like a revolver.. you don't have to pick up your brass before you flee...
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If I was back with the PD today a modern auto loader would make sense. That said I survived three deadly force encounters in my 30 year career while armed w/my issued six shot revolver and have confidence in that platform in retirement. Revolvers are simple to operate and will never be obsolete, at least IMHO.
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CCHGN: Have you ever owned or seen a revolver with a timing problem that made it dangerous? I haven't, and I've owned more revolvers than some people have seen. I have, however, seen an auto or two fail to feed. Get real.
Dude I'm more real than you can handle, so get off your high horse. Of course I have, or i wouldn't be here talking about it. I Said in my post about my Mod66. I'm holding in my hand an Iver Johnson Break Top in .32( that my Grandpa carried), that works fine, but I wouldn't shoot it.
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Dude I'm more real than you can handle, so get off your high horse. Of course I have, or i wouldn't be here talking about it. I Said in my post about my Mod66. I'm holding in my hand an Iver Johnson Break Top in .32( that my Grandpa carried), that works fine, but I wouldn't shoot it.
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So I guess that if you've never seen it , it don't exist, huh? I guess , with ALL your knowledge about revolvers, you can't imagine a SINGLE thing that would retard the timing on a revolver. Wow, it must be nice to have ALL that authority. Must be lonely up there at the top.
I would load some really light loads and shoot that IJ.
Old guns like to talk, too.
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Having all that metal on your hip can attract lightning, too. But just like hangfires and sudden lethal timing issues, I don't worry about it.
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I guess I’m just old but I carry a revolver of some type every day. I just like revolvers and shoot them better.
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Dude I'm more real than you can handle, so get off your high horse. Of course I have, or i wouldn't be here talking about it. I Said in my post about my Mod66. I'm holding in my hand an Iver Johnson Break Top in .32( that my Grandpa carried), that works fine, but I wouldn't shoot it.
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So I guess that if you've never seen it , it don't exist, huh? I guess , with ALL your knowledge about revolvers, you can't imagine a SINGLE thing that would retard the timing on a revolver. Wow, it must be nice to have ALL that authority. Must be lonely up there at the top.
Not one thing you've said about timing or hang fire in a revolver is true.

You are also comparing an antique break top to a modern solid frame. False premise there.

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I really do not understand w others care if you have a wheelie or a bottom feeder , really who cares?
as individuals we all have a preference to what works best.

just like the annoying guy on the golf course:
why not hit a driver instead of 4 iron?

mm, ok , why does it matter to you kind sir?
I tend to spray my driver to the right and there is a water hazard out there. Conversely, I smoke my 4 iron dead straight out to 215 yrds , 8 times outta ten....
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I am a recovering semi-auto holic…… been sport'n my ole 19-4 snub for crowding 15 years now...

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Can they shoot? Maybe it's time to school them on exactly what a "revolver guy" can do!

I like, shoot, and carry both.
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Most guys who try to "persuade" others into using what they use are just looking for validation of their own choices.

They want you to know they are real operators and you should hang on their every word....


I'll listen to anyone who gives me sound advice and speaks from real world experience....I am NOT an operator/commando/warrior...just a regular guy trying to be as prepared as possible.


But before you tell me I'm wrong to carry an old wheel gun maybe you should see me shoot it first?!?
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That's why they still make Fords.
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Some folks think all the young un's don't like revolvers. Today I took my 17 year old grandson to the range. I packed a Shield 9, an XD sub compact 9mm, a Ruger 1911 45acp, a S&W 1911 45acp, a Rock Island 1911, a Ruger SP 101 357 mag, a XD mod.2 tactical. His favorites were in order the Ruger SP101, S&W 1911, Ruger 1911, Rock Island 1911. Not the order I would have guessed. Revolver and 1911s on top of the list. Kinda like that kid.
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I like Snubs, shoot Snubs, Carry Snubs.
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Tell the haters that there is nothing that does a better job of developing and refining Trigger Skill than a good revolver used in Double Action. I purchased my first revolver, a 67-1, specifically to insure that I would be able to shoot my Carry firearm at that time well. BTW, my Carry firearm was a Sig Sauer P239 in 40 caliber and anyone who has a DA/SA firearm knows full well that decocking between every shot to hone DA trigger skills becomes rather frustrating rather quickly. Today I have 8 revolvers ranging from 22 caliber up to 45 ACP in addition to a decent selection of Semi Auto pistols, rifles from 22LR to 308 and two shotguns for Trap, Skeet, and Sporting Clays. Don't struggle even a tiny bit with the trigger on anything I pick up and it is all due to a habit of doing some DA training at least once a month.
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Quality revolvers pre-date semi-autos by at least 50 years. I appreciate them all, and would not feel under-gunned if I had any good SA, DA or Semi on my hip.
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I ignore such people. I can protect myself adequately with either platform. I could care less what others think.

If anyone has paid attention to a few posts here in the last few years, more than one person has successfully defended themselves with a revolver.

Imagine that.
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If I was allowed to carry any pistol I wanted to on duty it would be one of my two 1911 .45’s. If I was restricted to a 9mm it would be my Kimber 1911. I do not see the magazine capacity as an issue.

But if I was in a position to decide what handgun a squad I was supervising carried it would be a K or L frame .357 revolver. Why? Because AD’s went up significantly when we transitioned to Glocks and continue to stay high. The revolver is just more user friendly to someone who carries infrequently and actually shoots only once a year for qualification.

BTW, a week or so ago I got the call to lock, load and carry the Glock. An armed homicide suspect was believed to be in my patrol area. After putting the holster onto the backing plate of my belt I drew the pistol, racked the slide and tried to put on the safety.

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A school resource officer in my former department had a negligent discharge w/his issued Glock 23 while on duty at a school. No one was hurt but he was subsequently indicted for reckless endangerment and put on suspension w/o pay. I don’t know all the circumstances so will not comment on how it’s being handled.
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I have and carried both revolvers and semis. But in all honesty, I grab the revolver first- it’s the simplicity of employment and safety in carry/ holstering I prefer. Am a SS in REV, SSP( and all other semi divisions) and BUG divisions in IDPA, so am familiar with both designs.

That said, each of us needs to decide for ourself what the right tool to employ for our skill level and environment.

Carry what you are competent with and ignore the chatter.
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Whether you carry a Revolver or an Auto I think should depend on your conditions, where you live and what the crime rate and type of crime that is prevalent in your area ..

Myself I would not carry a revolver in most instances because of the conditions where I live .. and the number of rounds when carried before a reload is needed with a revolver .. My Beretta allows me 17+1 before a reload is needed .. Some one with a 5 or 6 shot revolver would have to reload 2 times to have close to the same number available to fire ..

That alone is enough to get yourself killed ..

Peoria, Illinois is just 8 miles away .. with the Illinois River a boundary between where I live and Peoria ..

The stats for Peoria from 2016 the last year they are available ..
The city violent crime rate for Peoria in 2016 was higher than the national violent crime rate average by 91.45% and the city property crime rate in Peoria was higher than the national property crime rate average by 57.01%. Several shootings in the area have had rounds fired in the high teens the last one 18 empty rounds were found .. home invasions seem to be popular among the perps .. A man was pushed down basement steps in a home invasion and died before identifying anyone last year .. usually 3 to 5 run together in packs .. the local mall has had so many incidents they put a police sub station in it ..

That is the reason I carry an auto with 13+1 around my town and 17+1 when I have to cross the river .. with a mag of the same on my off side .. and usually have a 17 round mag in the console of my Jeep !!

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Twenty years ago I sold the last of my automatics (that's what I grew up calling them--I'm old) and went to revolvers only.

I don't give the proverbial rodent's rear what you carry. If you're happy with it, and you have your reasons as I have mine, I'm happy for you.

I'm just more comfortable with a DAO revolver for self defense, which in old age is all I need a handgun to provide.
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It's been my experience that when someone can't use something, they bad mouth it. It's the old 'sour grapes' story. Since they can't shoot it well, it must be bad.

My response? When you can shoot your [whatever] as fast or as well as I can shoot my revolver, then you can talk. Until then, sit and be quiet.
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I love my revo, shoot them well, but in a potential multi attacker fight, I prefer more rds. My glock 32 is smaller/lighter than my m66, more rds, faster reload & easier to shoot at speed. Also ballistically superior to 125gr 357mag loads from a 2 1/2" bbl. I wouldnt feel underarmed with any revo, but today, just not my 1st choice.
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I started out as an auto guy. When the Army issued me a .38, I was disappointed. I got a .45 as soon as possible. As a private citizen I carried a 9 or 45 for years. But for about twenty years now I have been a .357 fan. My wife also doesn’t care for autos. She loves her 3” .38 though and is quite proficient with it


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I learned to shoot with my fathers Star model F, joined a local gunclub that had a policy to start new shooters with a .22 revolver.

After a while i beat the old foxes that shot autoloaders using my trusted revolver.
Both in speed and accuracy
They tried to persuade me to shoot autos to, believing that i would do even better.
I never did.

Been shooting revolvers ever since. Although, only for competition.

If i could use a gun for self defense, i'd use my model 19-4 2.1/2"
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Whether you carry a Revolver or an Auto I think should depend on your conditions, where you live and what the crime rate and type of crime that is prevalent in your area ..

Myself I would not carry a revolver in most instances because of the conditions where I live .. and the number of rounds when carried before a reload is needed with a revolver .. My Beretta allows me 17+1 before a reload is needed .. Some one with a 5 or 6 shot revolver would have to reload 2 times to have close to the same number available to fire ..

That alone is enough to get yourself killed ..

Peoria, Illinois is just 8 miles away .. with the Illinois River a boundary between where I live and Peoria ..

The stats for Peoria from 2016 the last year they are available ..
The city violent crime rate for Peoria in 2016 was higher than the national violent crime rate average by 91.45% and the city property crime rate in Peoria was higher than the national property crime rate average by 57.01%. Several shootings in the area have had rounds fired in the high teens the last one 18 empty rounds were found .. home invasions seem to be popular among the perps .. A man was pushed down basement steps in a home invasion and died before identifying anyone last year .. usually 3 to 5 run together in packs .. the local mall has had so many incidents they put a police sub station in it ..

That is the reason I carry an auto with 13+1 around my town and 17+1 when I have to cross the river .. with a mag of the same on my off side .. and usually have a 17 round mag in the console of my Jeep !!
If I lived around there I’d have to get a holster like Pappa in the Boondocks Saints Movie
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I like red headed women, got nothing against blonds or brunettes or the guys that are attracted to them. So far it has effected my life more than my choice to carry a revolver. I suspect it has effected the guys that carry autos about the same for the most part.

I don't guestion the guy carrying a 30-30 out hunting,, I figure he knows there are 300 and 338 WMs.

Their choice and none of my business, my choices are none of theirs.

They want to push it. $100, they can pick 5 target/ranges and I get to pick 5. Even if I lose I will get some respect for my revolvers.

I do agree with Whitwabit on conditions of area. Just like when hunting in the open sagebrush flats, my 300WM is a better choice than down by the river hunting whitetail in the willows where a revolver is better

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I love and trust mine and my wife's lives to revolvers. she carry's a 1976 mod. 60 J frame 38 with my loads of 180gr. cast lead hp. I told her if she can't win a fight with 5 she ain't tryin hard enough. I usually slip my berretta tom cat in my pocket when I walk out the door. it is easy to carry, my bedside gun is a 2in. model 19 and several other things that go bang.....
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Had a mentor tell me once. "Beware of the old guy who only owns one revolver. Chances are he's spent allot of time learning how to use it well."
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A 6 shot 357 magnum with a 2.5- 4 inch barrel will perform almost anything you’d want to do with a pistol.

One thing I’ve never understood: if a person is so weak or injured that they cannot chamber a 1911 slide, then how can they expect to proficiently work the 12 lbs double action trigger of a revolver? I know plenty of rather strong women who could rack the slide of any auto, but just could not effectively pull 12 lbs with the trigger finger.
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I can easily operate a revolver with one hand. Hard. but not impossible to rack an auto one handed. Lots of different types of injuries and disabilities, Just because one can't rack a slide doesn't mean they can't work a 12# trigger. Problem might be with the thumb or forefinger of the off hand. I will admit racking a slide is mostly just grip cause if you can hold on to the gun and slide its all arm power from there. Once loaded most semis only need a safety release or on the DA models about the same trigger pull as a revolver.

To me the semis only have one advantage. Capacity. If you practice like you really should a double action trigger isn't a disadvantage. Size and weight of anything bigger than a tiny 380 is a toss up.

Hard to find a semi auto big bore lighter than my 396 or 325 though.
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I can easily operate a revolver with one hand. Hard. but not impossible to rack an auto one handed. Lots of different types of injuries and disabilities, Just because one can't rack a slide doesn't mean they can't work a 12# trigger. Problem might be with the thumb or forefinger of the off hand. I will admit racking a slide is mostly just grip cause if you can hold on to the gun and slide its all arm power from there. Once loaded most semis only need a safety release or on the DA models about the same trigger pull as a revolver.

To me the semis only have one advantage. Capacity. If you practice like you really should a double action trigger isn't a disadvantage. Size and weight of anything bigger than a tiny 380 is a toss up.

Hard to find a semi auto big bore lighter than my 396 or 325 though.
Fair enough. Everyone’s situation is different.

My Colt Defender weighs 24 ounces and holds 8 rounds of .45 auto. It’s a great alternative to a big bore wheelgun. It is a bit stiff in the recoil spring though.
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One thing I’ve never understood: if a person is so weak or injured that they cannot chamber a 1911 slide, then how can they expect to proficiently work the 12 lbs double action trigger of a revolver? I know plenty of rather strong women who could rack the slide of any auto, but just could not effectively pull 12 lbs with the trigger finger.
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While most young people first getting into guns are attracted to and purchase Semi Auto's, there are STILL quite a few Revolver Toter's around (including LEO's who use them off duty if allowed or as a BUG).

I am totally familiar with my M60 & M65 and have carried them (or similar) for 40 years. I am comfortable with them, I have confidence in them, I shoot them extremely well, and they are as about as reliable as a firearm gets. I have optimized my choice of carry ammo for different situations and have complete faith in that too. I have no plans on carrying Semi's any time soon.

I actually own just as many if not more Semi's as I do Revolvers - I just choose to use them at the Range. There are circumstances that do favor the use of a semi auto (1911 or Glock or Sig) during Gang riots, large crowds of Bad Guys, uprisings, etc. and thankfully that has not happened lately. If and when it ever does, a semi auto with lots of loaded Mag's will be close by, but I would always have a M60 as a BUG.

If I were a LEO on active duty, a high capacity Semi Auto would be what I would choose because they are "in the line of fire" 24/7. A 5 or 6 shot Revolver might not be adequate for them - unfortunately these day......
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Myself I would not carry a revolver in most instances because of the conditions where I live .. and the number of rounds when carried before a reload is needed with a revolver .. My Beretta allows me 17+1 before a reload is needed .. Some one with a 5 or 6 shot revolver would have to reload 2 times to have close to the same number available to fire ..

That alone is enough to get yourself killed ..

Peoria, Illinois is just 8 miles away .. with the Illinois River a boundary between where I live and Peoria ..

The stats for Peoria from 2016 the last year they are available ..
The city violent crime rate for Peoria in 2016 was higher than the national violent crime rate average by 91.45% and the city property crime rate in Peoria was higher than the national property crime rate average by 57.01%. Several shootings in the area have had rounds fired in the high teens the last one 18 empty rounds were found .. home invasions seem to be popular among the perps .. A man was pushed down basement steps in a home invasion and died before identifying anyone last year .. usually 3 to 5 run together in packs .. the local mall has had so many incidents they put a police sub station in it ..

That is the reason I carry an auto with 13+1 around my town and 17+1 when I have to cross the river .. with a mag of the same on my off side .. and usually have a 17 round mag in the console of my Jeep !!
I prefer revolvers, but I can’t deny that there is truth in this, and I agree. That said, I don’t live anywhere near such an armpit of humanity.
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