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Old 06-19-2018, 01:33 PM
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Hope it isn't anyone we know. Perhaps his name is (now) Bob.


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Why anybody uses this form of carrying is just beyond me. Talk about, “What could possibly go wrong?”

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That girl had her schit squared away - 1) She immediately told someone else, by name, to call 911, then - 2) she comes over with a tourniquet and latex gloves already on. Edit: it looks like she was already wearing the gloves. Still, she was taking charge of that situation. I would like to have her on my side.

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Notice what he did there, he's adjusting and pulled the trigger.
His hands are not anywhere near the trigger when the gun fires.
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This is why I never buy cheap guns you never know when they gonna go off. And I never modify my guns. The public will be safe as he will lose his gun rights.
Lose his right to own and carry guns?
I really doubt it.
And how do you know what the price or make of the gun is?
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I appendix carried my J frame, IWB, for years but never worried b/c of the long, heavy trigger pull. There are too many variables w/modern auto loaders, for me at least, to carry one this way. I’m not knocking others who carry their semi autos like this, only saying it is not something I would do.
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This is either a setup or he never hit anything

There is no blood

Besides the initial startled shout he does not sound like he is in pain

They did this to get paid by the cash for video sight
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Old 06-19-2018, 03:08 PM
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"Don't You Hate This When It Happens?"...... ......again, two and a half weeks later? I think he would have learned the hard way the first time it happened: _http://smith-wessonforum.com/concealed-carry-self-defense/559404-poll-appendix-carry-2.html post#60

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Old Cop, I totally agree. I want an external hammer so I can do a thumb check and a nice long double action trigger pull on anything carried in the appendix position.
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Have no idea what gun or how it could go off, unless some part of his clothing got into the trigger guard. Still just another reason I can't get comfy awib carry. Violates a primary safety rule, which I try never to do on purpose. Besides, I do not find it anymore comfortable than iwb @ 3:30-4. If I shoot myself in the but cheek, I can put a bandaid on that.
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My guess is a single action pistol on which he did not engage the safety. Heck of a way to take yourself out of the gene pool. Hopefully, he'll recover. I think it would be rather difficult to get a full trigger travel in double action mode.
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According to the Truth About Guns article (6-2-18) this is what he carried:

[img]https://s8.postimg.cc/3kx**7d85/gcode-539x513.jpg[/img]

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There is no such thing as an accident with a firearm, it all falls under 'negligence and carelessness'
Notice what he did there, he's adjusting and pulled the trigger.

These are the idiots who make us all look bad.
Take his gun/s and a thorough a-- whopping. Perhaps put on the no fly list as well.
If the video is actually real then I love the "perhaps put on the no fly list as well" comment. If the video is real, then he just shot the daylights out of his "fly" (and maybe something else) so no need to add him to the list cause he aint' got no fly left!
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Some people should not own guns........or have children, ....or drive cars,.........or vote....etc
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Are there any holsters for in the waistband fitted with a metal barrier on the bottom to stop a bullet? it would still be quite a "wump" but maybe better than what happened to this guy. Prolly weigh a little bit more but be worth it. Bulletproof vest material maybe? Just thinking out loud here
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I had a very strong suspicion that was what it was but didn't want to say it. I hate those guns.
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Are there any holsters for in the waistband fitted with a metal barrier on the bottom to stop a bullet? it would still be quite a "wump" but maybe better than what happened to this guy. Prolly weigh a little bit more but be worth it. Bulletproof vest material maybe? Just thinking out loud here
Not quite the same, but for Glocks there is an aftermarket gadget called the Striker Control Device (SCD) that replaces the slide cover plate. Lets you put your thumb on the back of the slide and feel if the trigger is being pulled when you reholster. e.g. if your shirt gets caught in the trigger guard. Hard to say what happened in the video. It may or may not have prevented it.
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Dummy.

She should have come over, taken his gun, and shot him again for his stupidity.
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I cringe every time I watch a video where someone used a Glock, IWB appendix, to show how “safe” this is. Too much at stake to take a risk like this, at least for me.
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I have never found Appendix Carry or Glocks to be comfortable for me to carry ..
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I had a very strong suspicion that was what it was but didn't want to say it. I hate those guns.
I had the same suspicion. They are excellent guns. I have a few but I never carry them IWB. I have heard the trigger finger discipline speech and checking the holster before seating the gun speech.

But I know that I have brain farts and bad days and know that although I try hard I make mistakes. So I prefer guns with more layers of safety. For me that means a revolver. Others with more agile minds will probably be well served by a Glock or similar pistol.
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I have watched this video over a dozen times blown up to a size where the Pic is almost blurred on the original site and I can’t see why this gun went off. + His finger was along the slide when he holstered.
+ He was looking at his holster and gun when he holstered. He would have seen his undershirt blocking or in the holster when inserting gun.
+The gun went all the way into the holster.
+ His outer shirt did not get caught in the holster.
+ And if his undershirt was in the holster it should not have pulled up (therefore pulling on the trigger) when he bent over (it would have if anything just bunched up outside the holster).

Did this REALLY happen or was it staged??? What do you think?

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In my mind it had to be something with a shoe safety on the trigger. When those little things are depressed, that trigger gets real light.
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I believe the official update from truthaboutguns is that it was a case of undershirt stuck in the trigger guard.

The shirt must have prevented the gun from fully seating in the holster, and when he bent over his stomach must have pushed the gun deeper into the holster compressing the shirt and trigger.

Over the last few years I have read 2 or 3 personal accounts between reddit and m4carbine.net of guys admitting to shooting themselves in the same fashion. One was carrying OWB and his flannel got stuck in the holster and shot himself in the calf/ankle.

I'm a glock fan, but I prefer the heavy NY1 trigger. That said it could just as easily happen to me, after years of carrying try to be aware, but I will be the first to admit that I don't always police my garments during holstering.
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it's good to see that some knowledgeable folks will admit at accidents can indeed happen. Call it negligent if you will, but sometimes the Stars just aligned to create an accident.
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Interesting that the first person to aid the man was the girl ?

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I had a very strong suspicion that was what it was but didn't want to say it. I hate those guns.
Nothing wrong with the gun, it's the user that is the issue. Safety, no, idiots don't properly use safeties either. Don't point the muzzle at something you do not want to shoot, there solved the problem.
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If I didn't know from that post above that the telling of this story comes from that site 'The Truth About Guns' I'd say who knows, but since it's on that site I'm gonna believe it's most likely staged to get page hits, which brings in the cash.

It's also agenda driven as a certain element out there is trying to force Glock to put a safety on their firearms. Which I for one oppose, if you want or feel the need for a safety then buy a gun that has one, or perhaps better yet learn how to carry one without shooting yourself.

And if you lack the confidence then build it or carry something else like a stick.
Or a whistle, but then you might swallow it.
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Nope, not an accident. You point the gun at your body part & it goes off, no matter why, it is negligence.
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I had the same suspicion. They are excellent guns. I have a few but I never carry them IWB. I have heard the trigger finger discipline speech and checking the holster before seating the gun speech.

But I know that I have brain farts and bad days and know that although I try hard I make mistakes. So I prefer guns with more layers of safety. For me that means a revolver. Others with more agile minds will probably be well served by a Glock or similar pistol.
Nothing to do with agile minds, just go slow, look it into the holster, don't point it at your body part. I carry iwb @ 3:30-4. The gun comes out & goes in straight up & down, never points at my leg or butt, alongside yes, not right at as aiwb does. Yes a glock is in my rotation, yes I carry a 1911 this way.
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Whatever....
The guy appeared to holster the gun properly and when he bent over something squeezed the trigger.
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Whatever....
The guy appeared to holster the gun properly and when he bent over something squeezed the trigger.
Probably, but not the guns fault, the shooter's fault. Safety, still have to remember to put it on?? No gun is idiot proof. Don't point it at yourself, problem solved.
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Nothing wrong with the gun, it's the user that is the issue. Safety, no, idiots don't properly use safeties either. Don't point the muzzle at something you do not want to shoot, there solved the problem.
To me Glocks are kinda like pitt bull dogs. Seems that whenever there's a "negligent" discharge reported it is most often a Glock involved. Last week it was an FBI agent doing flips on the dance floor. Negligent, accident, whatever you want to call it. ...it usually involves a Glock.
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Stupidity abounds! This wouldn't have happened with a wheel gun. Wise up folks, this ain't the movies.
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barney knows what cooks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Seems staged to me as well.........

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To me Glocks are kinda like pitt bull dogs. Seems that whenever there's a "negligent" discharge reported it is most often a Glock involved. Last week it was an FBI agent doing flips on the dance floor. Negligent, accident, whatever you want to call it. ...it usually involves a Glock.
Still operator ERROR. Before GLock/striker fired guns, plenty of ND with fools & their guns.
BTW pitty, cocker spaniel, not much diff but size of the bite, always the owner & how the dog is raised.

Dogs that bite the most:
•Chihuahua.
•Bulldog.
•Pit Bull.
•German Shepherd.
•Australian Shepherd.
•Lhasa Apso.
•Jack Russell Terrier.
•Cocker Spaniel.
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Stupidity abounds! This wouldn't have happened with a wheel gun. Wise up folks, this ain't the movies.
Sure it could. Some idiot would cock the hammer back & holster it like that. Back in the day, cut away trigger guards on revos were popular. Yeah nothing wrong there right? New guys show up all the time at the local idpa matches & want to run their SA semi with the safety off?? Makes you wonder what they do at home??
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"Don't You Hate This When It Happens?"...... ......again, two and a half weeks later? I think he would have learned the hard way the first time it happened: _http://smith-wessonforum.com/concealed-carry-self-defense/559404-poll-appendix-carry-2.html post#60
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If you carry a gun on your person it will at times be pointed at something you don't want to shoot. And it's impossible to NEVER have it pointing at some part of your own body unless maybe with a horizontal holster.

Very hip and cool to say "ND" past few years but I would never say it. ND is legal terminology. Means you accept full responsibility. I prefer to NOT give such a gift to a prosecutor or personal injury lawyer.
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