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Old 07-07-2018, 01:28 PM
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Nice, nothing wrong with that. I've carried three J-Frames many times. J, "IMO", is the best overall, ez to carry, most versatile, good power to size/weight ratio, ccw piece ever.
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doesn't two weigh you down somewhat .. what is the weight of a 442 ?? how do you carry?? holster .. pocket ?? Are you going to carry +P's ??
I would think they would be a pretty hot load for that pistol ??

I carry a PX-4 Sub Compact and an extra mag and wouldn't want to carry 2 of the Beretta's ..

Just seems like a lot of unnecessary weight to lug around everyday.. which could lead up to back and sciatic nerve pain in your legs at a later date ..

I understand that it's a NY reload .. but do you live in NY ..

Just my thoughts ..
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Retirement is great. Lots of choices of what to do and how to do it.

When I retired I was able to ditch the suit and tie and wear clothing that would conceal a full size pistol AIWB with a hi-cap reload @ 10 o’clock. Fixed blade push dagger at 11. Very comforting and sufficiently comfortable.

When I need to because of formal clothing, I revert to a 9-round Shield with a 10-round reload in Thunderwear.
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Awsome like my 442 alot
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doesn't two weigh you down somewhat .. what is the weight of a 442 ?? how do you carry?? holster .. pocket ?? Are you going to carry +P's ??
I would think they would be a pretty hot load for that pistol ??

I carry a PX-4 Sub Compact and an extra mag and wouldn't want to carry 2 of the Beretta's ..

Just seems like a lot of unnecessary weight to lug around everyday.. which could lead up to back and sciatic nerve pain in your legs at a later date ..

I understand that it's a NY reload .. but do you live in NY ..

Just my thoughts ..
Two 442s weighs less than one PX-4. Airweight J frames weigh almost nothing.

I carry two revolvers everyday, so I approve!
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Carry a 442 every day.....great gun.

Two of them is more-gooder!!
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Many of us old timers have carried two for many years.....

The very reason several of us lived to be 'Old Timers'.


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doesn't two weigh you down somewhat .. what is the weight of a 442 ?? how do you carry?? holster .. pocket ?? Are you going to carry +P's ??
I would think they would be a pretty hot load for that pistol ??

I carry a PX-4 Sub Compact and an extra mag and wouldn't want to carry 2 of the Beretta's ..

Just seems like a lot of unnecessary weight to lug around everyday.. which could lead up to back and sciatic nerve pain in your legs at a later date ..

I understand that it's a NY reload .. but do you live in NY ..

Just my thoughts ..
They only weigh 17oz each
Im not into +p mostly a warm full wadcutter and 158 swc for reloads.
Carry method will be mostly pocket carry.
Carried autos most of my career because I was told I had to!
The 38 works and it worked for me in the 80's.
Always carried one as a back up and off duty.
Autos are ok they jam in retirment no need for ammo capacity.
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Nice pair. I've got a 642 & 360 for lightweight options. I'm more of an auto guy. My retirement purchase was a Glock 43.

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My retirement EDC is the 340PD b/c I carried a revolver for the first 20 years of my 30 year career, and I had to use it three times so that’s where my comfort level is.
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I just did a revolver class for two of our guests at the resort and had them both shoot my M&P 340 as well as my 686 CS-1 along with several semi's because they have revolvers at home and had no training with them. I love J's. Like Dave and OLD cop said. Many of old timers started with wheel guns and used them very effectively for a lot of years before switching to bottom feeders.
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S&W 360J and Taurus M85 with 2 speed strips. Retired (pun intended) my 9mm Shield.

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Two 442s weighs less than one PX-4. Airweight J frames weigh almost nothing.

I carry two revolvers everyday, so I approve!
Actually no the PX-4 Sub Compact I have weighs in at 26 oz 2 of the 442s come in at 29.4 oz so would be 3 oz heavier then my Beretta .. if you count the weight of an extra holster what would you come up with ?? holster another 6 to 8 oz or more all according to the type ..

so that set up is easily much heavier then mine ..
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Actually no the PX-4 Sub Compact I have weighs in at 26 oz 2 of the 442s come in at 29.4 oz so would be 3 oz heavier then my Beretta .. if you count the weight of an extra holster what would you come up with ?? holster another 6 to 8 oz or more all according to the type ..


so that set up is easily much heavier then mine ..
When I was on the fugitive unit in the 80's I went into the worst housing projects
With a 6 shooter model 66, 18 roundss total and a snub in my week hand pocket.
That set up worked for me.

In retirement the snubs will work fine to protect myself , if you feel safer with the auto carry on. Ive survived confrontations with a wheel so thats my individual choice that ill stick with, its retirement and no one will tell me what I have to carry any more.
So a wheel is what I choose.
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Please don't mis understand my questioning .. I'm just trying to understand why ..

If you think you need more then 5-6 shots ,, wouldn't it be safer for you to carry an auto that would supply you with 10 or more rounds the same or slightly more then the two revolvers .. My PX-4 is 13+1

The problem I see is I can shoot all 10 to 13 rounds in the time you shoot five and do a reload.. 5 more rounds on target might save ones life ..
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I dont think I would need more than 5 shots but if I did then there is an other 5.
And I have seen to many malfunctions with autos.

If I was going to feel rhe need of an auto I have plenty to choose from.

I will be doing some private sector work and if I feel Im doing somthing I need firepower ill strap on a Kahr or a glock.

But after 33 years ill give my hip a rest and not dress around my gun.
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Actually no the PX-4 Sub Compact I have weighs in at 26 oz 2 of the 442s come in at 29.4 oz so would be 3 oz heavier then my Beretta .. if you count the weight of an extra holster what would you come up with ?? holster another 6 to 8 oz or more all according to the type ..

so that set up is easily much heavier then mine ..
You donít have one to hand off to someone if TSHTF. You donít have a backup if yours brakes. If my right hand becomes useless I have a gun in my left pocket to access. Two is one one is none.?.
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You donít have one to hand off to someone if TSHTF. You donít have a backup if yours brakes. If my right hand becomes useless I have a gun in my left pocket to access. Two is one one is none.?.
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You donít have one to hand off to someone if TSHTF. You donít have a backup if yours brakes. If my right hand becomes useless I have a gun in my left pocket to access. Two is one one is none.?.
I would never hand a weapon off to a stranger !!!

Has there ever been a TSHTF ??

I have shot close to 14000 rounds thru my autos with out a failure .. I do change springs when needed and all other maintenance ,, And use good ammo ..

If my right hand become disabled I practice shooting off hand and do that at about 75 to 85 percent of my right hand ability.. about the same as most people who practice off hand shooting

The old "Two is one and one is none " saying was years ago when revolvers were in vogue and autos were having many troubles .. speed loaders did they even exist them ?? At that time 30 years or so ago I could well see all your arguments but in todays world where perps are carrying Glocks with 30 round mags .. who run in pack of 4 or more the revolver in my opinion as a self defense weapon is low on the list of what I would choose to carry ..
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I would never hand a weapon off to a stranger !!!

Has there ever been a TSHTF ??

I have shot close to 14000 rounds thru my autos with out a failure .. I do change springs when needed and all other maintenance ,, And use good ammo ..

If my right hand become disabled I practice shooting off hand and do that at about 75 to 85 percent of my right hand ability.. about the same as most people who practice off hand shooting

The old "Two is one and one is none " saying was years ago when revolvers were in vogue and autos were having many troubles .. speed loaders did they even exist them ?? At that time 30 years or so ago I could well see all your arguments but in todays world where perps are carrying Glocks with 30 round mags .. who run in pack of 4 or more the revolver in my opinion as a self defense weapon is low on the list of what I would choose to carry ..
well you have your views I have mine.
I also as A head firearms instructor for a large department have thousands of rounds through my auto and have trained many officers, so yes have seen many malfunctions. Can you carry your auto in a pocket and fire through that pocket. I'm carrying to protect me not the world. Also if I'm going to go some where where its really really bad I have many other fire arms to choose from.

What does (TSHTF) mean?

In retirement like I said you carry what you like and I'll carry what I like/
Auto work for you then carry it, revolver works for me that is what I'll carry.

Good luck stay safe!!!
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well you have your views I have mine.
I also as A head firearms instructor for a large department have thousands of rounds through my auto and have trained many officers, so yes have seen many malfunctions. Can you carry your auto in a pocket and fire through that pocket. I'm carrying to protect me not the world. Also if I'm going to go some where where its really really bad I have many other fire arms to choose from.

What does (TSHTF) mean?

In retirement like I said you carry what you like and I'll carry what I like/
Auto work for you then carry it, revolver works for me that is what I'll carry.

Good luck stay safe!!!
"What does (TSHTF) mean?"

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I would never hand a weapon off to a stranger !!!

Has there ever been a TSHTF ??

I have shot close to 14000 rounds thru my autos with out a failure .. I do change springs when needed and all other maintenance ,, And use good ammo ..

If my right hand become disabled I practice shooting off hand and do that at about 75 to 85 percent of my right hand ability.. about the same as most people who practice off hand shooting

The old "Two is one and one is none " saying was years ago when revolvers were in vogue and autos were having many troubles .. speed loaders did they even exist them ?? At that time 30 years or so ago I could well see all your arguments but in todays world where perps are carrying Glocks with 30 round mags .. who run in pack of 4 or more the revolver in my opinion as a self defense weapon is low on the list of what I would choose to carry ..
if one runs into 4 guys carrying 30 round glocks, a puny little 13 round pistol is not going to do the job. this will give you a possibility of surviving. might be a little hard to conceal in Phoenix in summertime.
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Great little revolvers they are! A good choice as far as Iím concerned. Happy retirement to you! Were these a self-inflicted retirement gift?
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Congratulations on your retirement! Just crossed that threshold myself and will continue to carry my 442!

I have a Glock 43 and a Shield (x2) that I like but when it comes to what I shoot the best and feel most comfortable with I find myself going to the 442.
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