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Old 07-13-2018, 12:21 PM
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Thank you, I live in a Stand Your Ground state, so that means I do not have to retreat and hide right?

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I'm glad to see hat Nevada is also one of the Stand Your Ground States. There is also a long standing tradition in Nevada of burying problems in a hole in the desert.
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I had Texas Law Shield but changed a few years ago to CCW Safe which pays more and in most cases will not cost me a dime out of my pockets.
Thank you very much
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Neither stand your ground nor the Castle Doctrine are legal grounds for defending property using deadly force.

I talked to CCW Safe about using a gun to stop a person from stealing my truck at night. He said you can't use deadly force to protect property. This scenario could open a can of worms and going to jail for any number of years isn't worth it to keep my truck from being stolen.

Call the cops and let the thief know the cops are on their way. If you approach with a gun then you might then be considered the aggressor and the thief was then afraid for his life. The old belief that anyone trespassing at night, even in your home, is grounds for using deadly force is not so cut and dried as some might be led to think. 12 people might think differently than you do.
CCW is wrong as stated when mine got broken into in Tyler officer told me I had every right to shoot someone to protect my property. And no you don't have to drag em inside.
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Spent many hours looking at all the CCW insurance. Some only covered certain States or use of handgun only or found not guilty and only then reimbursed you a certain amount ect..
I purchased CCW Safe. You can get it for you and your wife,covers criminal and civil law suits,bail ect.. you can even get 1 million pay out in a civil suit if you lose with NO out of pocket expense!
This was my choice. There are some good comments above.
Good luck on your search. If you carry a gun or have one for home defense you NEED some kind of insurance! JMO. It has been said that you may never be struck by lightning, but people ARE struck by lightning.
For a small monthly fee no matter which insurance you get, you WILL sleep better knowing you won’t go bankrupt if lightning strikes.

Be SAFE and shoot often!
Thank you so much Execpro,

I will call and get CCW Safe as well.

I don't want to overthink it.

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$50 grand is the minimum you're going to pay after it's all said and done with in a justified shooting. The perps family will come after you in a civil suit is what I've been told by professionals and police.
In some state, i.e. Arizona, if your shooting is found to be justified, you cannot be sued by the perp or his family. Just FYI.

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In some state, i.e. Arizona, if your shooting is found to be justified, you cannot be sued by the perp or his family. Just FYI.

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Google Castle Doctrine, and see if the state you live in has it.
While you are at it, look up, "shill".
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Hello,

In the gun store today when looking at guns, the salesperson ask me do I have USLawSheild which protects me with lawyer and court fees, if I shoot some one during a home invasion protecting myself and family.

He said, I will go to jail if I shoot and kill someone during a home robbery or invasion and the person family can sue me. And I need to be ready for court and lawyer fees, so I better get some kind of self defense lawyer protection monthly fee.

Is this true? Sounds weird to me. I shoot someone breaking in my home, and I go to jail.

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Here's a link if you decide you want to get trained:

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In our Conceal Carry Law if its a good shooting the Perps family can't sue you !!

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“In no case shall any act involving the use of force justified under this Section give rise to any claim or liability brought by or on behalf of any person acting within the definition of “aggressor” set forth in Section 7-4 of this Article, or the estate, spouse, or other family member of such a person, against the person or estate of the person using such justified force, unless the use of force involves willful or wanton misconduct.”
In other words, homeowners that are justified in using force to prevent a trespasser from entering a dwelling are also protected from any liability from the act. Neither the trespasser, nor his/her family may make any claim against the homeowner.
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Couple things.

First, thanks for resurrecting a real dumpster fire of a thread. Which, yeah, I'm contributing to.

Second, it's the Justifiable Use of Force section of the Illinois Criminal Code. It's got nothing to do with concealed carry at all.

Three, anybody can sue anyone for anything. All you need is a lawyer who'll try with you (ha! puns!).

Four--where are you getting "trespasser" from? The Illinois statutes specify entry with the intent to commit a felony, and "violent" forcible entry. That's not trespassing, and there's a really big difference. This is an area where being precise in your language is life-or-death important.

Five, the Illinois statute states, "against the person or estate of the person using such justified force". You can't sue the shooter. But you could probably sue the homeowner if they're not the shooter.

Six, "unless the use of force involves willful or wanton misconduct." You can pretty much bet that, absent an acquittal, you're wide open with this one.

Now, this isn't to suggest that the Illinois law is bad, as laws go.

What I'm suggesting is that relying on laws to protect you is utterly foolish. The truth is you have no protection.

Laws are frequently poorly-written and ambiguously-worded. They are administered and applied by people who are at best fallible human beings, and at worst your sworn enemies. All of us here carry a gun because, while we may have great respect for the police and believe they are doing their utmost to protect us, we do not rely on them for safety.

So why would you place any more faith in laws, DAs, and judges?
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I'm figuring no matter how or where -- shooting someone, there will be some ambulance chasing lawyer who will sue you no matter if its your fault, their fault or nobody's fault. Probably ruin your life. Most recently the incident in the parking lot where the guy "stood his ground". I would bet he wished he never got out of his car.
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Hello,

In the gun store today when looking at guns, the salesperson ask me do I have USLawSheild which protects me with lawyer and court fees, if I shoot some one during a home invasion protecting myself and family.

He said, I will go to jail if I shoot and kill someone during a home robbery or invasion and the person family can sue me. And I need to be ready for court and lawyer fees, so I better get some kind of self defense lawyer protection monthly fee.

Is this true? Sounds weird to me. I shoot someone breaking in my home, and I go to jail.

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You are free to sue anybody for any reason, real or imagined .
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