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Old 08-26-2018, 07:58 PM
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Below is a link to an article on a device that can be used to determine if a person is carrying. It's intended purpose is for large venues, airports, businesses and government. I can see something like this causing problems and legal concealed carriers being "outed" in public places.

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Device Now Let's Smartphone Users Scan A Person For Concealed Firearms From Up To 40 Feet Away
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And 8,000 devices have been pre-ordered so far, according to the company.

In the very near future, be prepared to be a target while out and about as a concealed carrier. While these devices are likely to be purchased by big companies and government agencies at first, I can see them interfering with the daily lives of law-abiding gun owners in the very near future.

The company is called Royal Holdings, and the device is named SWORD. In a nutshell, the device can attached to a few different model smart phones that are already available. With this connection, the user can scan people in real-time to see if they are concealing firearms, weapons, and other items that they are looking for.

Imagine walking into a store to see someone scanning you from 30 feet away with their phone, only to tell you that you’ll have to leave because firearms aren’t allowed at that particular location.

They say that the device will most likely be used at places such as large events and the like, but what’s to stop them from popping up at our local stores in the coming years? As of right now, their website allows pre-orders from businesses. Maybe I’ll try to snag one.

Oh, it also has face recognition software.

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LOS ANGELES, JUNE 06, 2018 – The urgent challenge for security personnel to noninvasively scan people in real time and in public to detect and “see” if they are carrying weapons or explosives without physically searching them will soon be solved with the launch of SWORD by Royal Holdings Technologies Corporation (Royal Holdings).

Over 8,000 preorders for the SWORD device have already been received by Royal Holdings from corporate businesses in the United States.

SWORD, the world’s first mobile 3D imaging scanner, attaches to a Google Pixel 2 XLsmartphone and Apple’s iPhone 8 Plus. It is accessed and controlled via a fully customizable and dedicated app. From a distance of up to 40 feet, security agents or law enforcement personnel can scan individuals in a crowd or an approaching person of interest simply by pointing their smartphone at them with the SWORD device attached. They will be able to non-invasively determine if someone is carrying a weapon or explosive–all without the need for a physical search–and rapidly identify a person of interest. SWORD can be used to scan backpacks and handbags that are being carried or have been left unattended. It can also detect listening devices used for espionage and intelligence gathering.

A featureless outline of the person being scanned is displayed, instantly alerting agents to location and type of concealed weapons or explosives. Royal Holdings employs artificial intelligence (AI) to quickly crosscheck and verify weapons and explosives with its securely maintained cloud-based database. In addition, built-in facial recognition operating in real time compares suspects to watch lists for positive identification. SWORD operates globally and features real time location sharing and generates real time alerts in the event of a mass shooting, terror threat, or terror attack.


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“The advent of SWORD marks a paradigm shift in the safety and security sector,” explains Barry Oberholzer, CEO and co-founder of Royal Holdings. “One portable and smart device effectively addresses the four main challenges that have been plaguing the industry in this age of mass shootings and bomb threats: portability of scanning devices; non-invasively determining if someone is concealing weapons or explosives, and if so, what type; and immediate and accurate recognition and verification of a person of interest.”

For law enforcement and security agents, SWORD increases safety and reduces uncertainty in challenging situations. Response time to possible threats is cut to mere seconds, empowering safety and security teams with vital information they can use to proactively diffuse or contain a potential threat–all based on previously verified data.

SWORD’s capabilities are built on a unique mobile platform developed by Royal Holdings, encompassing proprietary software integrated with AI, machine learning, and facial recognition capabilities. Never before has a device with SWORD’s game-changing features and capabilities been available on the market.

Available only to government agencies and corporate businesses, SWORD will prove to be an essential life-saving tool for law enforcement agencies, school and university security,executive protection teams, security companies, military personnel, border patrol agents, event companies, casinos, airports, and organizations involved in risk, safety, and security management.

SWORD can identify a wide array of hidden threats by comparing incoming data to a comprehensive database that Sentinel Technologies maintains of all known weapons and explosives currently in circulation. “Once a subject is scanned and the device verifies they are carrying,” Oberholzer continues, “SWORD uses AI and machine learning to rapidly identify material, shape, and size. Then, in conjunction with a 3D image of the knife, firearm, or bomb, all information is transmitted to smartphone mobile interface so the agent can evaluate the data and take appropriate action.”

The facial recognition feature identifies anyone in a crowd who matches a pre-loaded watch list and alerts the agent using SWORD. “Companies build their own custom database of persons of interest who may pose a threat to the organization, its employees, or customers. We can further expand that list by providing data on suspects from the terrorism watch list,” says Oberholzer.

Protection of privacy is a fundamental consideration in the development of SWORD. “This device will be used at mass events or places where people most likely already have a ticket. Privacy policies on those tickets apply, and in the majority of cases those policies inform people they will be subject to scanning,” adds Jaromy Jannard-Pittario, COO and co-founder of Royal Holdings. “SWORD doesn’t store any details of a scan. We don’t build and maintain databases of specific people companies look out for–they do that themselves. We solely provide the sharply focused technology needed to identify and verify people, weapons, and explosives.”

SWORD does not allow searches of the law enforcement partner’s database for additional information, and users cannot enter or modify information on the database. In addition, a user cannot randomly scan people at will to try and identify them: the system intentionally prohibits any features, which could be exploited to invade privacy.

All businesses, law enforcement and government agencies can now preorder SWORD from the Royal Holdings website, with delivery expected in spring 2019. Each SWORD unit purchased requires a monthly subscription. Design and utility patents are pending.

SWORD is part of Royal Holdings’ Sentinel Technologies solution suite, which develops and implements technologies that proactively and seamlessly deliver verified and actionable business and/or security information in a short, accessible format in real time to users before, during, and after a specific incident or event.

About Royal Holdings
Headquartered in Los Angeles, Royal Holdings is a privately owned technology company that develops verified information solutions that enhance the safety of education institutions, sports, business, and entertainment events that attract large crowds of fans and attendees. The company delivers proprietary technology-based solutions for its key markets through Sentinel Technologies brand. All development is undertaken in the United States.

For more information: RoyalHoldings.org.
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I feel like that isn’t a $1.99 app. Price should keep troublemakers away. Still....
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Imagine walking into a store to see someone scanning you from 30 feet away with their phone, only to tell you that you’ll have to leave because firearms aren’t allowed at that particular location.
I'd thank them for advising me of their policy. My money is better spent where my rights are supported (or at least tolerated).

The whole thing sounds fake though.
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If this were really real tech........

I'd buy stock in thunder wear or the Bond fly holsters.


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And they laughed at me when I bought my tinfoil hat!!

Seriously, I can see this technology evolving eventually. Thermal imaging is not really that new a concept, and there are already devices out there which will do most of what this product is purported to do, but there hasn't been a great deal of interest shown in utilizing them for scanning ordinary citizens to see if the are carrying concealed weapons.....

Guess we'll just have to wait and see where this goes.

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Company Prez...Barry Oberholzer:

"Barry is the CEO of Royal Holdings; he leads new business and new solution development as well as group marketing.

Barry founded TerrorMate, the world's first terror and mass shooting alert mobile app.

He is a former intelligence contractor with expertise in sanction busting, narcotics, narco-terror groups, and smuggling syndicates in the Middle East, and he has worked with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, Belgium Customs Intelligence Agency, Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs Intelligence, US Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Department of Defense Criminal Investigation Service (DCIS)

Barry is also the author of the Amazon best seller The Black Market Concierge.

Solutions we provide:

SWORD - World's first mobile based 3D scanning device for weapons, explosives and listening devices combining AI, machine learning, our proprietary software, facial recognition and 3D imaging software.

Sentinel Concierge - Embedded mobile event technology"

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American Military University
Bachelor’s Degree, Counterintelligence
2012 – 2017

University of South Africa/Universiteit van Suid-Afrika
Bachelor's degree, Marketing
2002 – 2004

Paul Roos Gimnasium/Gymnasium
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The convicted fraudster from Paarl who claims he is a double agent working to uncover organised crime, Barry Oberholzer, is still missing after he jumped bail in 2016. The Specialised Crime Court in Bellville found Oberholzer guilty of 22 charges, some relating to illegal cigarette smuggling. He stole millions of rands to support his lavish lifestyle. Oberholzer did not appear in court as scheduled on 30 June 2016, and a warrant for his arrest was issued by Interpol shortly after his disappearance. According to a trusted source close to the case, it is suspected Oberholzer is currently residing in America. Police are working tirelessly to effect his arrest.

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Thank you. That was exactly what I thought of but couldn't remember the name of those detector devices.
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The 4th amendment prohibits the Government from engaging in unreasonable searches. It doesn't apply to Walmart at all.

There's a sign on the gate where I work that says that by walking through the gate you consent to a search of your person, vehicle and personal effects. If you don't consent you can't come in. They're completely within their rights
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Pre-Order pricing is $950 per SWORD (Normal retail price is $1250).
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Fake. Think about the physical size and power consumption of the metal detectors, x-ray machines, and wands at airports that need to be in near contact distance just to work most of the time. This is going to be in a phone using a phone battery and work out to 20 meters.

The “genius” of his scam is he’ll get a couple thousand people to send him the $950 for the pre-order and walk away with couple million bucks. The only thing that would make it a better scam is if he was also taking pre-orders for a cloaking device targeting concealed carry permit holders.
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Even if it was real, what retail store is going to spend money on the hardware, software, and employees to do this? Would they hire some minimum wage millennial? The millennial would wet his pants if he found someone carrying.

And if an actual criminal spotted the employee aiming his cell phone at him, he'd be the first one shot.
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Our highschool started making attendees at football games walk through a "metal detector" several years ago. One Friday night as I stood in line to "get scanned" and enter the stadium, I saw folks handing over pocket knives to the deputies manning the "scanner" before walking through -- then realized that they also HAD to be carrying car keys, coins, metal plates and screws inside their bodies, etc. -- and the scanner never went off once. Suspecting a fake, I strolled right through with no problem carrying a big ol' folder in my pocket. I later confirmed through a friend who was a school board member that they had bought a fake metal detector. Real ones were way too expensive...

So our "stadium security" is just like TSA -- a total fake. Just as a cheap lock only secures things from theft by honest people, airport and stadium security only keep us safe from timid terrorists.
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Just put your RFID wallet in front of your concealed weapon and you should be good to go.
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To detect a gun you would need to use either metal detection or chemical detection like something that sniffed for nitrates. A nitrate detector capable of detecting the gun powder in a cartridge case would be very delicate and short range and could be confused by a variety of normal things unrelated to explosives. Chemical detectors work by sucking in air and running it by something. In refineries they have one used for testing fugitive emissions. Very small leaks coming from valve packing, flanges etc. It is a back pack and requires a wand to be place near the source. Oil refineries can afford and spend on technology. Combustible vapor should be much easier to detect that dry nitrates. Just doesn't seem possible. Plus, several years ago, I was stopped in an airport and a TSA woman, used a wand attached to a backpack (very similar to a fugitive emissions detector) to check my carry on bag. She stuck it right in the bag. I realized the only thing that made sense was nitrate detection as nitrates are a component of most explosives and blurted out, "Hey your checking for nitrates aren't you". "I can't say" was the reply, the look I got was my answer. Lucky I didn't end up in a back room.

Metal detection might work, but usually requires some coils of wire and the metal has to be in the proximity of the coils to change the inductance of the coil to register metal. Your car over a coil in the road can be detected and cause the traffic light to change, an actual metal detector, etc all require some bulk and close proximity.

In other words I don't believe it is possible. YET.

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"Available only to government agencies and corporate businesses"

Just a cheaper and more mobile version of technology already in use. Nothing to see here. Move along . . .
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I don't believe this. Having sat on a public school board, I can't fathom a public entity taking on the risk of appearing to scan for weapons when it's not. Imagine the chaos should an incident occur . . .

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So our "stadium security" is just like TSA -- a total fake. Just as a cheap lock only secures things from theft by honest people, airport and stadium security only keep us safe from timid terrorists.
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I feel like that isn’t a $1.99 app. Price should keep troublemakers away. Still....
It will get cheaper.
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My friend Jack has some magic beans that he got in a trade for the family cow. Same price as the SWORD - let me know if you're interested.
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I don't believe this. Having sat on a public school board, I can't fathom a public entity taking on the risk of appearing to scan for weapons when it's not. Imagine the chaos should an incident occur . . .
Brother, you don't know our school board. One, a board member for going on 16 years now, is illiterate -- literally cannot write his own name. They have hired -- and fired -- 4 superintendents in 5 years, all on 4-year contracts -- which were bought out at a total of over $2 million. They are utter morons, pure and simple. The sole exception, my friend, is a well-educated, intelligent and highly-motivated man -- and is outvoted 7 to 1 on EVERY vote taken. On more than one occasion he has been physically assaulted by other board members in the parking lot after meetings. For a while, Sheriff's deputies were there to escort him home -- until he p'd off the Sheriff.

Then, there's our City Council, one member of which is a convicted felon -- 23 separate incidents of check forgery and fraud. He shouldn't have even been certified as a candidate, but there's our Election Commission -- forget it, there's not time...

But a LOT of folks are like my mom -- "Oh, that could never happen HERE!" Dream on... it's happening every day right before our eyes.
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I've got so much metal in me from a couple of back operations I would light up like a Christmas tree !!! I always set the detectors off ..
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Think I'll wait on this before I buy one.
Last time I bought a high tech device it was drawers that had charcoal inserts that were supposed to neutralize your farts. I think I was a Beta Tester.......BTW they didn't work
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I could see leaving my gun at home and carrying a metal nut cracker that's had gun powder burnt on it just to confuse the gun detector. Or maybe a foil profile of a gun when visiting some prohibited place. Don't they drop foil pieces in order to fool radar? Seems like you could fool that $1000 app while having some fun.

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