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Old 07-02-2020, 09:25 PM
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I do have two 627 PC revolvers. Yesterday, I asked the boss if it was ok for me to get a left and right hand holster for them and wear both. Maybe he thought I was kidding, but he did not say no. I have two UM84R holsters that are switchable to right or left handed. I am not on uniformed duty right now, but when I am, I'm going to set up a completely symmetrical rig for them. Holster, moon clip pouch, handcuff pouch, belt buckle, handcuff pouch, moonclip pouch, holster. 16 rounds of 357 Magnum without reloading. I love it.
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Old 07-02-2020, 10:14 PM
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I carry a Sig P226/9mm on duty. I also instruct and often will wear and run the qual with a Smith M-13 just to show the "kids' how it was done.
The comments are usually positive and many ask to try it. I personally would still carry a revolver if I could.
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Old 07-03-2020, 12:48 AM
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I carried my BHP for over 40 years. I also had a model 36 as backup. If I were working again today I would opt for the same equipment. I believe now as I did then, that I had the best of both worlds. I do not subscribe to the argument that you have either a revolver or a semi-auto. I strongly believe you need both.
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:08 AM
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This just isn't true. Suppressive fire is not necessarily used to hit a target, but to keep the target's head and eyes down so you and/or your partner can assualt the objective without the target knowing you are moving or where you are coming from.
As with several others I started out carrying the S&W K-Frame Revolver with 4” barrel and a J-Frame with 2” barrel for off-duty and concealed carry. Up until a few years ago I would argue strongly that a 5 round J-Frame Revolver was all a citizen needed to carry for self-defense. I no longer believe that.

What changed my thinking is the increase in work place, school and recreational (such as at clubs, bars and churches) mass shootings along with the lack of prompt police response. (The classic case in point is the Coward from Broward SRO).

Sadly one does not need to look very hard for mass shooting incidents. The Pulse Club mass shooting took the Police 45 minutes before they entered the building. A mass shooting came to Smallville a few years ago close to where I live. Sadly there are a bunch of nut jobs seeking five minutes of infamy by a media willing to give it to them.

I love the Model 10 and it’s show-off brother Model 64 with 4”
Barrels. I shoot them very accurately. However the main reason I own them is in anticipation of the severe gun restrictions that will be passed when a certain party regains power in States and Washington, D.C. (Virginia being the latest example).

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Does Jerry have any experience shooting under stress (as in being in a gunfight)?
This always gets said ny the LE communtiy. Stress is adrenaline, pretty much the same in any situation you are unfamiliar with. Why training under some stress is desirable. Your physical skills will diminsh less under stress the more you train under stress. Plenty of leo & ccw do really well under fight stress.
Shooting poorly is just that, shooting poorly, regardless of the conditions. Train harder, get off the flat range. Shoot enough that you dont clutter your mind with how to run the gun, trainng & practce. Shooting a qual 1-4x a year wont cut it.
Bte, no, a revo is a very poor choice for any LEO. You face unskilled thugs with high cap spray & pray, they only have to get lucky once. Jmo.
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Unfortunately, experienced revolver guys like Delf "Jelly" Bryce and Jim Cirillo are long gone. Good, bad or otherwise, LEO auto loaders are here to stay. That said, I believe present day officers, deputies, and agents would benefit from training with a DA revolver. Trigger and capacity control for example, (I've only got six, better make them count). To quote Clint Smith, (again), "Just because revolvers are old doesn't mean they're not effective."
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Boston has a bylaw for special police officers (typically working for private companies with limited police powers) which only allows them to carry a 4" .38Spl revolver.


Given the crime in housing developments and other places of public gatherings, I don't think that the revolver is suitable in today's society.
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I grew up and spent more than half my career carrying a revolver and still carry a J frame daily. If you train properly ( which many cops won’t do) there is nothing wrong with a revolver as a primary duty weapon. JMHO


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I've been a full time cop for 21 years. Since 2006 i've carried a 642 as my backup. I've tried every small 9mm and 40 S&W auto and they just don't carry and deploy as fast as a j frame. I also like the advantages a j frame has over an auto in a fight if a back up is needed. However my duty gun is a Glock 19 with a trijicon RMR. I think if an officer is skilled the revolver would be a fine primary duty gun but i'd rather have an auto for capacity.
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Well, it's 2020 now, and the ANTIFA sh!t show is happening in big cities.

I retired in August 2018 as captain of our city hall security detail, and all my officers carried Glock 22s. I carried an issued S&W Model 686-6 on my duty belt with 4 speedloaders in two double pouches with a S&W Model 12-2 in my offside cargo pocket with 2 speedstrips in a double dump pouch. I shot the same state-mandated qualification course as my Glock-toting officers and no one ever beat my scores (not to say that some of them didn't match them). My last week on duty, I had already cleaned the 686-6 to return it to the armorer, so I carried my personally owned S&W Model 65-1 (quite against regulations).

During my tenure we had the "Occupy" protests, then some protests after a convicted felon checked out at the hands of a police officer. The "Occupy" protesters included a small number of ANTIFÀ folks, but they stayed in the background. During the felon-shooting protests (which were more a campaign rally for a more radical candidate than the one representing that community at the time) nearly blocked the entrance to city hall. When people came in complaining of being harassed, I was the one who got to go outside and explain that if I heard any more complaints from employees, tenants, or citizens, that we would clear the sidewalk (me and the three officers I had available). We had no more trouble. I did hear a comment, "That ain't a Glock! He's carrying a MAGNUM!"

Since I retired, the Glock 22s have been replaced by Glock 17s. I usually EDC the Model 65-1 and/or the Model 12-2, but lately I've had some hip issues and have been carrying a Ruger EC9s. If I were to "unretire" (which will never happen) I would carry a S&W Model 327 TRR8.

I think revolvers still have a place, but we won't see them again as general issue.

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