Here is a Video of a Shooting that was posted on FreeRepublic.com.. It is pretty graphic. No details of the circumstances or location were posted. I’ll let you decide the the conclusion and possibilities.

Thief Didn’t Expect Customer To Be Packing Heat — And He Pays The Ultimate Price… – CITIZEN FREE PRESS

It appears that 2 other perps were accompanying the gunman. Doesn't appear that the others presented firearms. They apparently departed rapidly before the shooting. The shooter appears to have given the coup de gracia to the robber with his final shot. Noticed the 2 perps took off even before the shooting. One on the extreeme right appeared to be holding something with his left hand behind his back as he approached.

No recidivism expected with that one.

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Lot’s of talk on ccw forums about how critical a sub-one second draw is. Not so much here. Surreptitious draw with deliberate action won the day.

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The way they are dressed suggests Miami or some warm spot. The shooter hid that large piece well in athletic shorts. He did endanger the other customer though. Joe

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I like the other customer covering his ears. That’s something Hollywood never seems to get right - how loud gunshots are in an enclosed space.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a Central or South American country.

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It depends on the circumstances. It could be argued the shooters actions were unnecessary. I wouldn’t have responded the way he did.

Whether by pure luck or a deliberate tactic, the good samaritan had his body between his gun and the robber, affording him the opportunity to make the draw unseen. I can recall receiving lessons from the NYPD firearms instructors in New York where they told us that when dining in any restaurant, to always sit with our back to a wall and where we could observe the front entrance. Regrettably, they had to learn this tactic the hard way by taking casualties.

NYPD also told us to take no action if there were people behind us that we could not identify or control. Had a backup gunman been present, posing as a customer, the outcome could have been very different.

I would have suggested that he take up a profession with a better retirement program!

This is why I like to bat these ideas around. Helps flesh these things out.

I’d argue the shooter made the right choice. Nothing to do with the robber getting what he deserved. At that close of a distance, with no cover, I don’t think it’s such a good idea to depend on the good will and common sense of a felon (armed robber) with a drawn gun.

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It looks like this was not the good samaritan’s first rodeo. He was cool as a cucumber before, and after; even gave him the passing foot nudge to be sure of the KIA.

Looks like the first shot sent a piece of the back of the perps’ head across the lobby, the second shot got to the core of things, and the third was the nail in the coffin; DRT.

As for whether to take lethal force action, every man must make the decision in that moment. I’d like to think that the perp just wanted money and to be gone. But, are you going to bet your life on it...? Man pulls a gun during a robbery and points it in my vicinity, I’m not going to rely on his good will and sober mind, I’m going to stop the threat. Might die doing it, but better to try and fail, than to fail to try... Oh, and what do they say about most shootings happening within 10-15 feet, or something like that.

Finally, if I were to bet, I’d bet that this happened in Brazil. Have seen several of these types of situations that happened in Brazil, and this looks like one of them. It’s not USA, the store wouldn’t have its door open in hot weather (any weather for that matter), we’re all too spoiled, not so much in Central/South America.

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"Had a backup gunman been present, posing as a customer, the outcome could have been very different."

Quite true. The other 2 perps left quite suddenly. The shooter appeared to be making certain they had. He was very observant when the gunman arrived and took deliberate and sudden action. He was within arm's length when he fired. Apparently looking for a kill rather than disabling, with 3-4 shots to the head. In a U.S. court I wonder how that would play out?

The heading is in Spanish not Portuguese so don't think its Brazil..... guy was scarily casual about the whole situation....

"the NYPD firearms instructors in New York where they told us when dining in any restaurant, to always sit with our back to a wall and where we could observe the front entrance".

Watching Marshal Dhillon in Gunsmoke sit in the Long Branch Saloon with his back to the front door and window always disturbed me. I wonder who the advisor for the program was?

One of the best remarks under the video:

'All that for cutting in line…'

Had something kind of/sort of similar happen in my city back in 2010. Teenager with a shotgun was trying to rob an inner city Walgreens. Customer carrying concealed without a permit shot and killed the robber. Ends up the robber's shotgun was unloaded.

Didn't make it to court. but County Attorney said it was a justified shooting. He was quoted as saying..."People shouldn't enter stores with short shotguns and try and rob people. And it's as simple as that. Fortunately, it turned out that the perpetrator was taken out, and the other perpetrator was arrested," (prosecution wise - location, location, location).


Customer did have a city permit to own the pistol, but not a city or state concealed carry permit. He got a misdemeanor charge for carrying concealed without a permit. Pretty sure I read the charge prevented him from getting his state CHP.

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What pistol does the hero use to shoot the assailant?

Looks like it has a ton of knock down power! The enemy was hit and knocked right on over.

Good shoot!!

Now that's the way to do it. Nice and clean = Crime Reduction...…………

It looks like a 1911 to me, but I could be wrong.

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Looks like one to me, too. Guess the hero person hadn't read this thread on the forum.

The perp passed the other two folks outside the store. The three were not together. Two saw what was happening and lit out.

Perp announced what he was doing on his way in to this post office. He looked right at the customer who looked back at him. The customer did not seem flustered.

Perp drew the gun with his left hand, then transferred it to his right as he tried to get up on the counter to get around the screen and grab the money. Perp was focused on the teller and the money.

Concealed carrier drew one handed but did not have a firing grip. You can see daylight between his hand and the back of the gun. Still managed to do what needed to be done quickly, stopping the perp from getting over the counter. It appears to be three shots in less than a second, all into the head . That’s not amateurish. CC’s rather casual actions after the shooting also indicates calmness resulting from training and/or experience. He may have been moving the gun away from the body with his foot, although he realized he didn’t need to as the guy had no chance of immediate resurrection. No fear of prosecution. Local law was probably completely on his side, especially if he was off duty LEO. It’s hot weather by everyone’s attire, except the perp. Dead giveaway as he approaches.

That’s Spanish in the video, not Portugese, so this is not Brasíl. But seeing that it was 12.23.19, it’s close to or south of the equator, I think.

It's Brazil, Itapecerica da Serra, in São Paulo. It appears that the shooter was an off duty military policeman.

Policial reage a assalto e mata suspeito em ag^encia dos Correios na Grande SP | S~ao Paulo | G1

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Another happy ending story.

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I love a happy holiday season story. The shooter appears to have been down that road before. Lights out bad man.

Who shoots to disable? Who shoots to kill? You shoot to stop the threat, nothing more, nothing less. Obviously the 3rd shot wasn't necessary, but it's not for any of us to second guess what the good guy was experiencing in that moment.

Nobody died but the bad guy, I call that a win.

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Maybe in Brazil it is not illegal to take your gun into the post office. If it is and the bad guy had read the sign, he might still be alive! Oops.

At least he died doing what he loved. Regards 18DAI

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Love happy endings.

That dude's got some stand-up friends there.

Had. He had some stand-up friends.

And yeah, I'm fairly certain that's a 1911-pattern. Brazil makes a ton of them (Imbel). When Tank Top goes to draw, he's looking right past Hoodie at his bros, at which point said bros catch on and decide to GTFO. Hoodie never saw it coming.

Looks a lot like a 1911....I saw what looked like (the good guy) dis-engage the thumb safety.

Couldn't tell if it was a Gov't model or a Commander length.

Off Duty LEO, maybe....

Point shooting, eh


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Dave—you are a holster man so I will ask you—I have been wondering, and am surprised no one else has mentioned this, how in the world was that gentlemen carrying a 1911 (or whatever pistol it was) in those baggy, drawstring shorts? It looks like the gun was down inside his shorts, so maybe some sort of neoprene “girdle”-like holster?

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Sure it's a 1911? Looks like it has a squared off trigger guard. Taurus TH9 or simiar?

Another take-away: Choosing ankle carry would make you combat ineffective in this scenario.

True, but in a different scenario ankle carry might've been the better option. Or pocket carry. Or crossdraw. Or a shoulder holster. You never know, so it's either carry multiple guns in multiple carry positions or do the best you can with what you have.

Mr robber didn’t pay much attention to the guy right next to him. Oops.

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I wear those type of drawstring shorts around the house and use one of those ratchet click belts to IWB a J-frame when I do. I put the belt on and fold the waist band over, then clip the IWB over it. I wouldn’t go out anywhere like that, but it works well for me and is comfortable around the house. I’m guessing the shooter did something like that. Pretty impressive pulling a full size semi out of your gym shorts. The bad guy seemed pretty surprised.

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I couldn't rightly tell.........But it sur nuf worked for him.


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I have a 6" wide "belly band" holster with a large velcro area to secure it. It will support a pretty large gun. Unfortunately for me it will not accommodate a pretty large belly. Joe

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I used to sometimes wear a bellyband holster when I dressed like that.You could carry a lot of gun concealed and comfortable.But alas my belly does not allow me to carry that way anymore.I
Gave my last bellyband holster to a friend of my wife.She is a deputy in NC and wanted a way to carry inconspicuously during dog shows.

As Wyatt Earp said, "Speed is good but accuracy is final."

I don't know. It seem he had enough money to last him for the rest of his life.

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