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NO and NO! Guess it's an OK idea if you have a death wish! Be sure to have your papers in order.
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The dumbest post ever!
Just when I was considering posting about people continually ‘over thinking’ things, this appears!
Seriously..I am amazed. Singularly, very likely the dumbest post ever in a gun forum.
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Just when I was considering posting about people continually ‘over thinking’ things, this appears!
Seriously..I am amazed. Singularly, very likely the dumbest post ever in a gun forum.
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I wouldn’t go that far. Some of yours have been just as bad.
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I would highly suggest that the OP seek out some quality training and devote a little bit of time researching force-on-force engagements. It sounds to me like they are young and have been filled with nonsense.
Oh. ABSURD!!
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Totally absurd.
Ranks eight up there with the guy I met in the academy that said when he got out on the street, he was going to carry his service revolver with the firing pin removed, and carry a loaded snub under his jacket (anticipating a gun grab - talk about planning to fail). Believe it or not he was successfully "reeducated" and made it to retirement, though always a bit strange.
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Using a blank in self defense will get you killed. I shot an armed robber four times during a gun fight and had to use a blackjack before I could get him cuffed. He died in the hospital two days later but had plenty of fight in him after being shot w/my thirty-eight.
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Where did you hit him, and what kind of ammo were you using?
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Where did you hit him, and what kind of ammo were you using?
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Probably 38 Special 158 grain LRN. I've seen it first hand even though there were multiple torso shots.
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Where’s Muss when we need him?
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OP, the only way you'll get someone to agree with your idea is if this someone is named Mitt Romney.
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Off somewhere whining and pouting over his infraction
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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4]Would carrying as much as a 629, 4" barrel, down to a .38 Special snubby, loaded with full power blanks make sense?
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No.
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In such a case I would seek cover first and not engage without being certain of my opponent, especially since I am not a LEO and can only engage as a matter of self defense.
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If you're engaged in self defense, your goal is to stop the aggressive action as quickly as possible.
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But, in very close quarters (less than 10 feet) a properly designed blank should stun and possibly blind an opponent. Pressed against a torso it would likely be fatal. Close to any body part it would likely disable a person. At more than 15 to 20 feet it should not cause any serious injury to bystanders as there is no real projectile or bullet.
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Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Actual ammunition cannot be counted on to stop an attacker, and is not always fatal, not is it always disabling. Blanks will perform far less effectively.
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This would be similar to the frangible bullet concept and would be designed to contain damage exclusively to the intended target.
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Frangible ammunition creates multiple wound channels in a target. It is not similar at all to wax bullets or blanks.
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Is this just a lawsuit looking for an idiot to volunteer to lose his assets?
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Yes.
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Does it make sense to anyone besides me?
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As you can see from the above posted responses, no.
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Has anyone ever seen this suggested before?
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No.
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I doubt I would ever do this but thinking about it I liked the idea.
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Ummm,, okay.
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I totally do not mind if you think this is absurd.
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That's good.
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Understanding that this might stir up a few people, let me get some opinions. I am thinking about a radical change to urban concealed carry. Would carrying as much as a 629, 4" barrel, down to a .38 Special snubby, loaded with full power blanks make sense? Think magnum primer behind 10 to 20 grains of Unique or 2400. The plug can be wax or a number of other compounds.
Based on a recent Seattle, WA incident, three drug dealers/criminals got into a gun fight injuring some bystanders and killing one of the bystanders. In such a case I would seek cover first and not engage without being certain of my opponent, especially since I am not a LEO and can only engage as a matter of self defense. But, in very close quarters (less than 10 feet) a properly designed blank should stun and possibly blind an opponent. Pressed against a torso it would likely be fatal. Close to any body part it would likely disable a person. At more than 15 to 20 feet it should not cause any serious injury to bystanders as there is no real projectile or bullet.
This would be similar to the frangible bullet concept and would be designed to contain damage exclusively to the intended target. Is this just a lawsuit looking for an idiot to volunteer to lose his assets? Does it make sense to anyone besides me? Has anyone ever seen this suggested before? I doubt I would ever do this but thinking about it I liked the idea.
I totally do not mind if you think this is absurd. I might.
I appreciate all the responses everyone provided. I agree.
I also failed to mention that while bystanders were injured, none of the shooters hit their intended target.
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Might be the dumbest thing I have heard from a person with a ccw. if you need to fire your weapon, it probably is urgent & you need it badly. Blanks? Just run away or carry CS or a stun gun.
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Y'all do realize this guy hasn't responded to one post?
Sounds like a moronic question posted just to illicit a response.
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Y'all do realize this guy hasn't responded to one post?
Sounds like a moronic question posted just to illicit a response.
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Yeah or maybe he got put off (or put out) by responses from people who have no filter calling his question "dumb", "dumbest", "moronic" etc.
He's been a member since 2005, so we're not talking about a fly-by...
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Are we still beating this poor little thread?
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Anyone who is dumb enough to stand near or behind an evil person or anything trying to harm you, deserves to be shot!!!
So, Don't worry about anything and load heavy with Lead!!!
Lotsa range time after learning to handle handguns is a way of life.
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Where did you hit him, and what kind of ammo were you using?
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He was hit once in the face, once in the abdomen and twice in the side. We were all using issued 158 grain lead round nose high velocity rounds. We were issued the old FBI hollow points (158 grain +P) after this.
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I think hollow point wax bullets may be an answer....
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When we were teens a cousin and I made "blanks" with a healthy charge of Unique and my aunt's Gulfwax paraffin (canning wax), pushing the .38 Special cases into the paraffin block. Put 'em in a Smith & Wesson Model 15 and pointed it toward the garage wall and popped one off.
The dandiest hole you ever saw appeared in the sheet rock wall. My aunt wasn't home so we just dragged a steel shelf full of stuff over a few feet to cover the hole and declared it "fixed."
One could kill a person with "wax blanks."
Just sayin'.
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Gentlemen, the OP posted what appeared to be a sincere if misguided question. There were several appropriate responses and others that were insulting.
He did respond by editing his original post, probably to avoid the abuse that some of you thought justified. Food for thought for those of you who have never done anything misguided in your lives.
Thread closed.
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