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Good morning! After reviewing a post by another forum member where his thesis seemed to be that the Model 60 was a better carry choice than a Sig P365, it got me thinking.
I don't remember ever seeing it mentioned here, but has anyone here ever experienced a hangfire (delayed detonation) during a rapid fire string with a revolver? As a target shooter, I remember the constant reminders of waiting 4-5 seconds before opening the action. I can only imagine how disastrous it would be to have a delayed ignition when the cylinder is either off-center of the forcing cone or when in alignment with the frame during a self-defense encounter.
Has anyone ever experienced this?
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Our local NRA Basic Pistol Class provides S&W .38 Special revolvers for use by students. The class has been running 25 years, four sessions of 10 students per year. Each student fires 200 rounds per class session. If my math is good, that amounts to 200,000 rounds. Never had a hang fire. Have had a squib or two over time, always caught by the line coach.
I carry a revolver occasionally and have never worried about a hang fire with quality factory ammunition or my reloads.
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I've had squibs twice in over 40 years of shooting, the only hangfire was w/ a muzzleloader. It could happen w/ either revolver or auto... us Injuns carry knives that won't jam, misfire, etc. because even bowstrings break.
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The only time I experienced a hang fire was when firing at the range some orphaned and ancient cartridges my LGS let me have specifically because he knew that I knew how to handle them. I forget how I knew, but some had been in the military. A few did hangfire, the longest for well over a second.
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Like Big Foot ...heard about the dreaded "Hang Fire" but have never experienced one or been at the range or in the field when another shooter experienced one .
50 years a shooter , hunter and competitor (NRA Bullseye) ...
I'll believe in them just as soon as I see or experience one .
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In the event that happens to me during a gunfight with a jealous husband or boyfriend, I will have a freshly soiled depends to throw at my opponent
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One can get a hang fire in a semi auto as well.or you can get a stovepipe and it jams,
Stuff happens but it is not something I would worry about if using good ammo and the gun is in proper working order.
Sometime people go out and their car will not start o it just stops running. Stuff happens (again) Never had a "hangfire" but have had a squib in a revolver, locks it right up!
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I started metallic handloading as a 16 year old in 1989 and best deep-dive guess mixed with record keeping suggests that my output has been beyond 150,000 rounds. Low number for any competition shooter but perhaps a fairly high number for a hobbyist with limited opportunities to go shooting.
In my shooting lifetime AND excluding rimfire ammo, I’d say that 95% of my live fire has been my own handloads.
I have experienced -ONE- hang fire in my life. As I recall, talking about maybe a half second from hammer drop to BANG.
S&W 460XVR. Cause was either stuck corn media in the flash hole or weak roll crimp or a combination of both. I think, maybe, possibly.
It was concerning. I most definitely wasn’t in a string of rapid fire with a .460 Magnum.
By the numbers, it is something I am aware of, but not what I consider a real threat or problem.
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Never experienced it. Never had a squib load, either. *knocks on wood*
The closest situation I had was shooting some ammo, that sounded a bit weak. Turned out to be defective cases that ruptured when fired. I had to use pliers to pull them out of the cylinder. Fortunately, no injuries and no damage to the chambers. I also got a refund from the manufacturer for all of the remaining lot of that ammo.
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I had never had a hangfire until about a year ago when I got a Carcano cavalry carbine for a hundred bucks and decided I had to shoot it. It will only work with a little sheetmetal clip that falls out of the bottom of the mag when the last round is chambered, so I was stuck with ancient Italian military 7.35 ammo.
Almost every round would go click.........bang. They all went off eventually though.
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Used to have hangfires about every other round with some old .303 British from 1944. Interesting. I did have a squib while shooting a home built semi auto sten gun. Bullet lodge in the barrel and iij triggered another one behind it. The casing exploded and a small jagged piece slid up under the skin of my neck
Below my right ear. Interesting the relief one feels when the blood trickles out instead of spraying.
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If I'm in the middle of a gunfight, probably the least of my concerns at that moment will be a hangfire.
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Never experienced it. Never had a squib load, either. *knocks on wood*
The closest situation I had was shooting some ammo, that sounded a bit weak. Turned out to be defective cases that ruptured when fired. I had to use pliers to pull them out of the cylinder. Fortunately, no injuries and no damage to the chambers. I also got a refund from the manufacturer for all of the remaining lot of that ammo.
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By definition, that still is a "squib" load. Any under powered round is a squib
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NEVER..............I don't know anyone else that has either. Have been a competitive shooter and instructor since the 80's and either fired a gazillion rounds or surrounded by others that also fired a gazillion rounds.....NEVER.
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By definition, that still is a "squib" load. Any under powered round is a squib
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Ok. Thanks. I always thought a squib load was when the bullet got stuck in the barrel. That didn't happen in my case.
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