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Old 06-10-2020, 01:30 PM
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I CARRY Israel fashion, many Itch about this mode... but it precludes holes in legs and ceilings...ie... chamber empty, mag full. Takes me 2 seconds to rack the slide.

Well, maybe...but what if I'm out strolling in my formerly-fine city, and suddenly, I'm surrounded by 27 kind, gentle, reasonable-but-misunderstood "protesters" who don't like the cut of my jib? Then what? Maybe I could quickly quote some Martin Luther King Jr., or better yet, some Lenin...


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Old 06-10-2020, 02:16 PM
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I CARRY Israel fashion, many Itch about this mode... but it precludes holes in legs and ceilings...ie... chamber empty, mag full. Takes me 2 seconds to rack the slide.
Takes me a lot less time to just draw and shoot.
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Old 06-10-2020, 02:46 PM
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I'm responding to the OP and I haven't read other reply's. If you can fit a Glock in your pocket I'd say it's safe to carry there IF in a holster but not a soft holster. If holstering with the holster already inside the pocket, you should always check to make sure nothing else, including hankies, etc has gotten into the pocket. It's always best to remove the holster from the pocket, holster the gun and then place in the pocket.
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:04 PM
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I CARRY Israel fashion, many Itch about this mode... but it precludes holes in legs and ceilings...ie... chamber empty, mag full. Takes me 2 seconds to rack the slide.
Precludes holes in bad guys too

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Just carry your Glock in condition three. Loaded magazine inserted, no round in the chamber. Practice racking the slide after drawing it.
The problem (IMO) with carrying in condition three is the bad guy has to make a legitimate threatening move towards you before you can act. Then you're already behind the curve, WAAYYY behind the curve. You can't preemptively chamber a round because then you're the aggressor.

As I mentioned previously, I've been pocket carrying a Glock 26 for two(ish) years. Use a QUALITY pocket holster, I use a DeSantis, and you shouldn't have a problem.
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Old 06-10-2020, 04:18 PM
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Is " quick draw" even a thing for non law enforcement personel? No offense to anyone, but to me it is not something I envision in a self defense situation.
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Old 06-10-2020, 04:44 PM
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Is " quick draw" even a thing for non law enforcement personel? No offense to anyone, but to me it is not something I envision in a self defense situation.
Just my opinion, but it certainly can be. If you do a search of the Internet and YouTube, you can find videos of actual self defense encounters involving non-LE where getting the gun into action quickly was important, or that one hand may be necessary to fend off an attack in order to create enough space to draw. In one video I saw the intended target of the attack was holding a baby in one arm and drawing his gun with the other. And usually everybody's moving while the attack is going on.

I've also seen a couple of videos where the victim was carrying with an empty chamber, but either couldn't rack the slide because of the situation or racked the slide but failed to properly chamber the round and couldn't fire.

People are free to carry how they want, but I think the advantage of carrying with a round in the chamber far outweighs any supposed safety advantage of empty chamber carry.

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Old 06-10-2020, 04:55 PM
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OK, the only down side to pocket carry to me is when seated then. Personally I prefer a strong trigger pull for carry of any type. The trend for "better" triggers has been pushed lately but I don't agree it is a good thing, especially with so many new shooters. A long smooth pull is all that is needed for the ranges one is going to see in a self defense situation. If I carry my LC9s pro it is only in a kydex holster and I don't holster it on my body.YMMV Frankly it scares me a little it is soo lite. A glock is similar.

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Old 06-10-2020, 04:58 PM
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Robert Mika makes really great, well designed and constructed pocket holsters, for a reasonable price.

Buy one and use it if you intend to pocket carry a Glock.
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Old 06-10-2020, 04:59 PM
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Personally I prefer a strong trigger pull for carry of any type.
That is also my preference. All of my self defense guns are hammer-fired DA.
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Old 06-10-2020, 05:05 PM
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Is " quick draw" even a thing for non law enforcement personel? No offense to anyone, but to me it is not something I envision in a self defense situation.
Yes it is.

Two guys tried to rob my on my way to work one night. I walked up to my car, put my lunch in the seat, turned around and there they were.

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Old 06-10-2020, 05:35 PM
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Yes it is.

Two guys tried to rob my on my way to work one night. I walked up to my car, put my lunch in the seat, turned around and there they were.

You only have to be in the wrong place at the wrong time once.
How did that play out? Sounds like they already had the advantage on you.

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I pc my G-42 380 in a pocket holster.
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The OP's question may be answered very simply by asking about the bullet resistance of his (fill in the blank with your favorite body parts).
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I would not carry a Glock in my pocket with or without a holster.
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I would not pocket carry a Glock, I do own a 27 for carry and only do so in an OWB holster.
I do carry an LCP in my pocket with no concern!
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Old 06-10-2020, 09:16 PM
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How did that play out? Sounds like they already had the advantage on you.
I didn't think they realized that I was armed. When they discovered that I was they suddenly remembered that they had business elsewhere
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So, somebody lost a finger using someone else's reloads, so you shouldn't pocket carry. (?!?)

So, somebody can pull the trigger on their striker fired pistol using a cheap cloth pocket holster, so you shouldn't pocket carry. (?!?)

I have heard of people who shoot themselves while cleaning their guns, so you shouldn't pocket carry. My argument is just a valid as the other two I just repeated.
I'm not sure if this was a result of something I said, and I don't want to speak for the other person, but as far as I am concerned that's not what either of us meant. The gent who lost his finger was merely giving us insight into why safety concerns really hit home with him (and thus should be taken seriously). There's nothing wrong with that in my opinion, or pocket carry, and I appreciated his post.

Regarding my post, I just want to be clear that I was just warning people about the safety aspects of the cheap holster that comes with a Ruger LCP II, but I also stated that I was still using it because I don't pocket carry this gun often (I only use it once in awhile and choose to carry something more substantial that I don't have to draw from a pocket). My advice for people who might carry this way daily was to consider get a more substantial holster. In no way was either one of us telling people not to pocket carry (at least I certainly wasn't saying that).
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Quality holsters are vital. I have a Kramer Leather pocket holster that is 20 or more years old. I carry a G33 in it almost all day, almost every day (other times are my Shield w/RDS or the 296 in a fanny pack) and have for years. Unless one is a complete bonehead and carries without using a holster or has anything else in the pocket, there is no reason at all to worry about pocket carry of a Glock. (Assuming a firm grasp of Rule - if you get your finger on the trigger too soon, no matter the mode of carry, that's likely to work out poorly, and it solely the fault of the shooter.)
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I canned the thumb safety project on my boy's G36, to be my kayak fishing gun along with the stainless S&Walther PPKs, due to the aftermarket's reliability issues, and received this Pops Day card today.
An Officers model Ruger in 45 will be onboard.
Light tackle.
Heavy tackle.

Will still cargo shorts pocket carry, in a holster, the G36 around town as I like it better than the LCP.
It leaves my pocket and goes into the console as I enter and drive any vehicle.

I was going to buy him a steel Sig P220 in 10mm but he bought a G20 as an alternate to the 629/4" for the Rockies.
I raised a Glockster?
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