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Old 06-09-2020, 04:29 PM
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For years, I carried a Model 60 .38 Ladysmith snubby, in a pocket holster.

But, uhhhh, "recent events" have made me think that I may need more ammo, more quickly, than just 5 rounds. Times change, huh?...1980 seems sooooo far away.

I have a small-ish Glock, but I never carry it since it does not have a safety, and I always pocket carry. I have heard of Glocks going "bang" unintentionally by snagging on a holster, etc.

Is it safe to pocket carry a Glock? Yes, I could carry it without a round in the pipe, but...

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Keep your finger or other forging objects off of the trigger and it's as safe as anything else. Persinally, I have no issues/concers with any Glock pistols. Others.....well, that's their views/comfort level.
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Pocket carry a Glock with one up the spout? What could go wrong?
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I would consider pocket carrying a smallish Glock or Sig P365 (or similar) as long as I had a properly fitting pocket holster. Personally, I would be a whole lot more comfortable pocket carrying than I would using an appendix carry.
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If the Glock is in good working order, kept in a good pocket holster that covers the trigger guard, nothing else is kept in the pocket, and safe gun handling practices are used, then yes, they're safe for pocket carry.

If you want a little extra reassurance, you can always get the Striker Control Device. It replaces the slide cover plate. You press on it while holstering, as if you were placing your thumb on a hammer-fired gun, and it prevents the gun from firing. If I were to get a Glock, I'd install one.

Depending on what Glock you have, you could also do what I did with a Glock 23 I used to have and install the NY1/"-" connector combo. It keeps the trigger pull weight the same as factory stock, but there's resistance through the full length of the trigger travel, making it more revolver-like.
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There is no way that I would carry a Glock in my pocket.
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Sure, pocket carry is doable. Insert the gun into the holster BEFORE putting the entire rig into your pocket and you will likely never have a problem.

There are some people who pocket carry a Glock with only a kydex trigger guard and nothing more. The trigger guard is tied or fastened to a belt loop or belt and pulls free when the gun is clear of the pocket.
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No pistol is truly safe to be carried loose in a pocket. Ask the guy who shot himself trying to draw his Glock, that had turned in the pocket. Or the guy that gave himself a .38 caliber vasectomy in an OKC food court try to ease the revolver out without being seen.
If anything, the Glock is slightly more dangerous being carried loose because the trigger pull is lighter than a revolver. Same reason that Glocks should never be carried in a holster that has an attached strap, like a revolver holster. Men have shot themselves in the leg when the strap somehow got in the Glock trigger guard when reholstering.
If I sound like a cranky old range safety officer, I am, and have seen many instances of "I don't know how that happened, I've been doing it that way for years." Industrial safety publications say unsafe acts are typically repeated on average 300 times with zero problems before they show up on an incident report.
A good pocket holster that covers the trigger is a wise investment, and greatly reduces risk. I don't own a Glock, but I use a S&W in a pocket holster.
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I have heard of Glocks going "bang" unintentionally by snagging on a holster
FYI, the incident that started this involved a guy trying to reholster his Glock in an old, worn-out holster with a soft thumb break strap. The strap ended up in the trigger guard, but because the guy didn't pay attention, he just pushed the gun in without realizing it and ended up shooting himself.

Regardless of how much more of a margin for error one gun may have than another in terms of safety, the user still has to pay attention and use safe gun handling skills.

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To answer a direct question directly: yes, a properly functioning Glock correctly carried in a quality holster that covers the trigger is safe for pocket carry.

Whether or not it's right for you is a separate matter.
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To answer a direct question directly: yes, a properly functioning Glock correctly carried in a quality holster that covers the trigger is safe for pocket carry.

Whether or not it's right for you is a separate matter.
We all have our own levels of comfort.

I'd have no problem carrying a Glock, and have done so in the past, but I have a preference for hammer-fired DA guns. While there are multiple reasons for that preference, part of it is that I like that the gun is "at rest," so to speak. There are no cocked/partially-cocked/pre-cocked strikers, nor cocked hammers under full spring tension.

Does that mean any other design is unsafe? Of course not. That's just where my preference/comfort level is. Nothing wrong with sticking with what you're comfortable with.
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Iíve carried a Glock 43 in my coat pocket and pants pocket using a pocket holster for couple years now. No problems. Just donít put anything else in the same pocket.
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With the right holster (I prefer Alabama Pocket holster), and with absolutely nothing else carried in that pocket, and knowing that you need to clean & relube weekly (pocket carry results in a considerable amount of crud), there is no reason why you cannot carry a modern striker fired pistol of the right size in your pocket.

I daily carry a Sig P365 in this way, and for almost 15 years prior I did the same with a Kahr PM9.
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We all have our own levels of comfort.

I'd have no problem carrying a Glock, and have done so in the past, but I have a preference for hammer-fired DA guns. While there are multiple reasons for that preference, part of it is that I like that the gun is "at rest," so to speak. There are no cocked/partially-cocked/pre-cocked strikers, nor cocked hammers under full spring tension.

Does that mean any other design is unsafe? Of course not. That's just where my preference/comfort level is. Nothing wrong with sticking with what you're comfortable with.
We partake of the same kool-aid, my friend.

I like Glocks. A lot. I like them on nightstands. I like them in kydex outside the waistband, circumstances permitting and -- more pointedly -- possibly requiring.

For ordinary everyday life, I prefer a hammer fired DA for the same reasons you do.
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For years, I carried a Model 60 .38 Ladysmith snubby, in a pocket holster.

But, uhhhh, "recent events" have made me think that I may need more ammo, more quickly, than just 5 rounds. Times change, huh?...1980 seems sooooo far away.

I have a small-ish Glock, but I never carry it since it does not have a safety, and I always pocket carry. I have heard of Glocks going "bang" unintentionally by snagging on a holster, etc.

Is it safe to pocket carry a Glock? Yes, I could carry it without a round in the pipe, but...

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Yep, I regularly carry a G26 in a Galco pocket holster, no problems, to me just about the same as a 442 or my 640-1 carried in a pocket holster.
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I CARRY Israel fashion, many Itch about this mode... but it precludes holes in legs and ceilings...ie... chamber empty, mag full. Takes me 2 seconds to rack the slide.
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The comparison of a Glock trigger to a Smith revolver in DA mode ???
Maybe in SA mode with a lousy trigger.
I carry a G36 in the larger cargo shorts pocket with a holster that covers the trigger.
It's in the holster before going into the empty pocket.

Handguns are always carried concealed when not in the Swamp to avoid the.....
oooooh thang.

If you have sewing skills anything is possible with a pocket.
When the grandkids started walking my son kept the G guns in the house with an empty chamber. They have big dogs and perimeter alarms
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Carried both G42 and G43 in Vedder Pocket Lockers for many years, follow handling protocols and it will be as safe as you make it.
With that said, now slowing up a tad with age, only pocket carry either a 642 or LCP DAO these days.
And a P365, carried either owb or appendix, had sent the Glocks out to pasture.
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I have a couple of the Glock saf-t-trigger doohickeys. Both fit either the G42-size or larger. Both of them have a little screw to tighten the fit should it be loose. It takes about a half second to push out in the event of an emergency. I mostly carry - incl walking before dawn this morning - a 637 but I use the safe-trigger thing if I carry a G42. I've mentioned before (sorry!) that I like the 637 b/c the first round up is a shot cartridge for what I think is the most likely thing to happen - a dog encounter.
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Locally, a guy pocket carrying a Glock without a holster managed to shoot himself in the femoral artery while seated in a car and bled to death in front of his kids.
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There is no way that I would carry a Glock in my pocket.
For perspective, would you carry a revolver in your pocket?

Just curious, I'm not going to argue with whatever the answer happens to be. How other people wish to carry is fine with me.
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Front waistband or front pocket...kinda like asking... bean or frank??? Itís your choice, do what you feel comfortable with.

My wife happens to be a urologist, and I cringe whenever I hear her say gunshot wound while on call and has to go to the OR. Way more common than Iíd like to admit.
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For years, I carried a Model 60 .38 Ladysmith snubby, in a pocket holster.

But, uhhhh, "recent events" have made me think that I may need more ammo, more quickly, than just 5 rounds. Times change, huh?...1980 seems sooooo far away.

I have a small-ish Glock, but I never carry it since it does not have a safety, and I always pocket carry. I have heard of Glocks going "bang" unintentionally by snagging on a holster, etc.

Is it safe to pocket carry a Glock? Yes, I could carry it without a round in the pipe, but...

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Put your Glock in a decent pocket holster then put it in your pocket. The same as would your revolver. Carry a spare mag on your belt or another pocket.

Iíve pocket carried off and on for 20 years. If I thought it to be unsafe, I wouldnít do it.
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I am hyper cautious ever since I lost my weak hand trigger finger. A friend gave me some reloaded 45 ACP rounds and everything was fine until my 1911 exploded. My 1911 was totaled as was the index finger on the support hand. Turns out he was "multi-tasking" while reloading.

I would not pocket carry any Glock. I do carry a model 60 in a trigger guard covering pocket holster, nothing else is ever in that pocket.

I address the five round issue by carrying speed loaders in the other pocket (I know, over kill).
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In my opinion it is NOT safe to carry a Glock or any other striker-fired gun in the pocket without a holster (unless it has a manual safety that won't get kicked on or off in the process). I know some people even carry IWB with a Glock and one of those clips in lieu of a holster, and I hope that in the event of an accident, they sue the pants off the company who makes them and put them out of business. That said, if you can fit your Glock in your pocket comfortably with a holster, that is safe in my opinion. I carry a Ruger LCP II in my pocket with the Uncle Mike's-like pocket holster which doesn't add a lot of dimension to it, and although it is safe enough for me, it is not completely safe as I CAN PULL THE TRIGGER THROUGH THIS SOFT HOLSTER. I mention this because in a fluke accident, if you fell on something that might poke the trigger, it could go off. I don't carry my pocket pistol enough to warrant a new holster, but if I carried inside the pocket every day I would opt for a quality leather or kydex option that protected the trigger better. That's just my opinion.

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Just carry your Glock in condition three. Loaded magazine inserted, no round in the chamber. Practice racking the slide after drawing it.
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So, somebody lost a finger using someone else's reloads, so you shouldn't pocket carry. (?!?)

So, somebody can pull the trigger on their striker fired pistol using a cheap cloth pocket holster, so you shouldn't pocket carry. (?!?)

I have heard of people who shoot themselves while cleaning their guns, so you shouldn't pocket carry. My argument is just a valid as the other two I just repeated.
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If it is in a pocket holster. The pocket holster should cover and protect the trigger, keep the pistol oriented so that it is easy to draw from the pocket, and it helps to mask the outline of the pistol.
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To me pocket carry is one of if not the riskiest places to carry. I also think glock style pistols are one of the riskiest types of pistols to carry. Combining the 2 increases the risk. I would consider how many people have ND/AD with each type of firearm ie sa,da, sa/da, striker fire, safety, no safety, etc. I'm not saying glocks are unsafe to pocket carry ,but I think it's probably the worst of the bunch. Give it a try with an empty chamber and see if you can draw, holster and do normal stuff without firing it.

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I wouldn’t pocket carry a glock, but it doesn’t have anything with safety.

The rear sight and square back of the slide make drawing from the pocket difficult for me. YMMV.
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In my opinion it is NOT safe to carry a Glock or any other striker-fired gun in the pocket without a holster (unless it has a manual safety that won't get kicked on or off in the process). I know some people even carry IWB with a Glock and one of those clips in lieu of a holster, and I hope that in the event of an accident, they sue the pants off the company who makes them and put them out of business. That said, if you can fit your Glock in your pocket comfortably with a holster, that is safe in my opinion. I carry a Ruger LCP II in my pocket with the Uncle Mike's-like pocket holster which doesn't add a lot of dimension to it, and although it is safe enough for me, it is not completely safe as I CAN PULL THE TRIGGER THROUGH THIS SOFT HOLSTER. I mention this because in a fluke accident, if you fell on something that might poke the trigger, it could go off. I don't carry my pocket pistol enough to warrant a new holster, but if I carried inside the pocket every day I would opt for a quality leather or kydex option that protected the trigger better. That's just my opinion.

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When I am not carrying my 3913 on my hip, I have the LCP in a Remora holster in my front pocket. The remora is one of the grippy holsters that you can stick inside your waist band and it will stay. It is solid enough, you cannot get to the trigger through the holster. Mine stays in the holster and goes in and out of the pocket in the holster unless I ever need to deploy it. Have to clean the pocket lint off the gun on occasion.

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So, somebody lost a finger using someone else's reloads, so you shouldn't pocket carry. (?!?)
I think he was just explaining why he was super cautious.
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I have a close friend that shot himself in the leg just picking his brand new G27 from out of the floorboard of his car. He hadn't gotten a holster yet. Still doesn't know how it went off. He did say he picked up with his weak hand, not sure how his finger got in the trigger, but it did. I think the term is "Glock leg". I call him Barney sometimes.

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All Glock firearms have several safeties, ensuring that the gun will not fire without the trigger being depressed. They don't have external safety levers or switches, though, because the general consensus is that those will become massive liabilities in a dire situation where one needs to draw one's weapon.

I don't love pocket carry for a different reason: how many people actually practice drawing from a pocket holster? I'll bet the vast majority that carry this way have never actually practiced their draw at the range. And there's a reason for that: it's a pain in the ***.

Unlike drawing from a standard holster or from an inside-the-waistband holster, drawing from a pocket means that you're going to have to stuff your hand in your pocket, which means that your hand will have to conform first to the pocket to get it in there. That may or may not be a good position to grip a gun from. And in my mind, that introduces the risk of putting a finger (or something else?) inside of the trigger guard. The risk of unintended consequences goes up substantially at that point.

So: if you're going to carry this way, I would do a *lot* of practice drawing your gun unloaded. If you're confidant that you can do that safely, then I would do a *lot* of practice drawing your weapon at the range.

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how many people actually practice drawing from a pocket holster?
I have, and it's the reason I rarely pocket carry. I only do it when my usual IWB carry isn't feasible.

Aside from the issues you mentioned, you can pretty much forget trying to draw while moving or from a seated position.

The one tactical advantage of pocket carry is that it allow you to discreetly have your hand on the grip if the situation warrants it. Unfortunately, even the most highly trained people can miss a warning sign from time to time, so I don't see that particular advantage outweighing the cons.

But sometimes it's the best option, depending on the circumstances. Like any carry method, be aware of the strengths and weaknesses, and practice accordingly.

Just my opinion.

Note: I should add I'm speaking about pants pocket carry. I don't carry in a jacket pocket, so I can't speak on the pros and cons of that approach, though there is probably a lot of overlap.

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Pocket carry a Glock with one up the spout? What could go wrong?
I've been pocket carrying a Glock 26 in a good quality holster, with a round in the chamber for going on 2 years. No problem.

I carry only my gun in the pocket and I never carry the gun without a good quality holster.
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Flattop5, You're talking about carrying in Condition #3. I carry a Kimber Micro in a "sticky holster" in condition #1 in my pocket. You would be oaky without a holster as long as you were absolutely sure it was in condition #3. Don't carry it in condition #0,#1 or #2 without a holster.
If you want to carry it with a round in the chamber get a good holster my friend. Guns don't go boom without a round in the chamber. Keep in mind if you ever need to draw your firearm in a "self defense" situation you probably wont have time to rack the slide.
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I carry mine IWB at 12:00.
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Theoretically any quality firearm in a good holster is safe in your pocket, but I'm not putting any striker fired or cocked and locked single action semi autos in any of my pockets. As far as I'm concerned, pocket carry is for DAO weapons, be it a J frame or a Seecamp. Long moderately heavy trigger pulls are the ultimate in pocket carry safety.
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I know someone who lost his left index finger handling a 1911 pistol. He readily admits this was his fault and heís switched to a J frame for EDC. Google negligent discharges for a very sobering view of this problem.
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TL;DR
(Note: SA=Single Action)
I would not pocket carry a Glock because I think Glocks are less forgiving of imperfect gun administration relative to SA, DA/SA, DAO.

FTR:
1. I do not presently own a Glock, just not my preference.
2. I appreciate Glocks for their strengths, especially reliability.
3. Were I to buy a Glock, I would be all over the G29 like white on rice.

POCKET CARRY
Many good points made above.
1. Pocket carry using a quality holster that covers the trigger guard and is made such that the trigger can not be manipulated unless gun, holster, and user end up going through a threshing machine or some such catastrophic event.
2. Keep other stuff out of that pocket. Gun+holster only.
3. Pocket carry requires a more aggressive PM schedule.
4. Practice drawing from the pocket.

POCKET CARRY, AIWB, & GLOCK
AIWB is the new hotness (maybe cooling down a bit) on the CCW scene. An interesting side effect is the bump in popularity of DA/SA, DAO, and other hammer-fired carry guns (SA & otherwise) relative to striker-fired carry guns with no external safeties. This is for rather obvious reasons, given the proximity of delicate anatomy at risk given imperfect execution of AIWB and the elevated risk of mishap when executing/administering AIWB with a Glock-config gun.

And let there be no doubt, Glock and similar config pistols are less forgiving of imperfect execution. Maybe the "Glock Perfection" motto refers to the perfection required during gun administration.

Pocket carry has some risks similar to that of AIWB.

For my own part, I have pocket carried SA, DAO, DA/SA configuration pistols.

ALTERNATIVES
Pocket carry SA, DAO, and DA/SA alternatives with more than 5 rounds abound.
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I would never carry a Glock or any striker fired handgun without some kind of holster that protects the trigger. The issue is now IF but WHEN something bad happens.
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I CARRY Israel fashion, many Itch about this mode... but it precludes holes in legs and ceilings...ie... chamber empty, mag full. Takes me 2 seconds to rack the slide.
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For perspective, would you carry a revolver in your pocket?

Just curious, I'm not going to argue with whatever the answer happens to be. How other people wish to carry is fine with me.
I've completed the Glock armorers course twice in my years on the job. IMHO you cannot compare the trigger of a DA revolver with the Glock trigger. Apples and oranges, good but different. I would pocket carry both BUT, the Glock absolutely requires a fitted holster.
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