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Nebraska Drops Rhode Island. . . Puerto Rico. . . LEOSA. .. Masks. . . Brandishing/Ca
Nebraska State Patrol has removed Rhode Island from the list of states it will honor. They just say that Rhode Island requirements don’t meet their standards anymore. Nebraska Reciprocity | Nebraska State Patrol
Puerto Rico - I have just about done all I can do with the Puerto Rico Page. Found out that the PR Admin Rules which would have a lot of details about other things in the law concerning carrying firearms will never be available in English. Seems you have to order a copy of the section you want and it cost 1$ a page. It will be in Spanish. I believe that is where you will find the Rules about the places you can’t legally carry in Puerto Rico plus if you must notify immediately etc. You have to buy them to find out if there is anything in them!!! The rules on the New gun law are 217 pages long. I would appreciate any information from anyone that is relevant to PR especially their places that are off limits etc.
For those wishing to translate more of the Admin Rules I have found Google translator Google Translate to be OK but not near as good as DeepL Translator. DeepL Translate DeepL is not free but lets you do so much then shuts off. So I type things in Google in Spanish and that lets me check major typing errors then copy it and paste in DeepL then copy the English and then exit the DeepL site only opening it again when I want to paste into it. Works that way for me. Time consuming but only way I can do it and get a better translation without being very proficient in Spanish. I have a tough enough time with English!!!!!
LEOSA - Things have quieted down since early this year with gun law changes. With Covid 19, Heat Wave, Medical Issues and just getting old I had more time at home to research. This also gave me time to translate 4 sections and parts of others of the PR Admin Rules. This lead me to updated many of the state pages LEOSA Sections. It has been a good while since I have spent time researching items concerning LEOSA. I have only been adding info and links to that section if they were mentioned in the Gun News.
MASKS - Illinois and DC are about the only two places we are hearing about that may be of concern. California Pen Code § 185 Law section[185.]
In DC § 22–3312.03 D.C. Law Library - SS 22–3312.03. Wearing hoods or masks.
The thing is both of them state: To conceal your Identity. I think wearing a mask that most people are wearing because of the virus will not cause you any problems especially if you are not breaking any other laws. I would not wear a bandana or similar type mask like you see in the Cowboy Movies! Those are the Stage Coach/Bank Robbers!! I have read numerous stories and have seen it posted on State Official Firearm sites saying it does not affect the carrying of legal firearms. Even IL State Police are saying no problem. CCL Frequently Asked Questions at this link and see the first FAQ about Masks in IL. https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/Faq.aspx So carry away and be the very law abiding citizen you have always been and you should have no problems. If IL is saying it is OK that says a lot for the rest of America.
Brandishing/Stand Your Ground/Castle Doctrine – I have put together a couple documents that give you links to the laws concerning or could concern these topics for each state. (I most likely posted them on this board in the last few days) They are not all encompassing. Some states don’t have Brandishing, Stand Your Ground or Castle Doctrine Laws but use another law for covering things like Brandishing a Firearm. Some states in the files have a listing that not all consider relevant to the issue while others do. Not agreeing on the laws is why we have Appeal type courts! I will put the files on the site so you can access them with these links but don’t know where we are going to put access on the site to them. These links will also take you to the newest edition of the file as I will most likely be making updates to them as I get feedback. I welcome feedback on these two documents. Please send feedback to [email protected] Thank you and Stay Safe, Gary Slider
https://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/...of_Firearm.pdf
https://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/...lf_Defense.pdf
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I've found Google Translate to work much better (at least, for Czech) if I keep it to individual sentences, one at a time.
Obviously this is more work, but if I didn't like endless confusing contradictory work I wouldn't be translating Czech, so there you go!
Thanks for keeping us up to date!
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Thank you for the updates. I suspect it would take a law suit to get PR to change their stance on publishing the regulations. They should come under federal law, just as public and private organizations do, to publish in multiple languages.
Rhode Island is a "shall issue" state, if you can find a town that will process your application. By law residents can apply in their city or town of residence. Only some chiefs will refuse to accept applications until threatened with legal action. For none residents, it's even worse.
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In the beginning of this mask wearing thing all I wore were bandannas as you describe or shemaghs like the military (and terrorists) wear. One time I went into my bank wearing a bandanna and very dark sunglasses. I took a selfie to show folks with the bank name in the background. I asked them "How can you permit a customer to come inside the bank dressed like this?"
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One time I went into my bank wearing a bandanna and very dark sunglasses. I took a selfie to show folks with the bank name in the background. I asked them "How can you permit a customer to come inside the bank dressed like this?"
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I remember going to a bank once, several years ago, and there was a sign at the entrance saying that customers couldn't wear hats, sunglasses, masks, or any other face covering. Kinda curious to see if they've changed their signage.
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Nebraska State Patrol has removed Rhode Island from the list of states it will honor. They just say that Rhode Island requirements don’t meet their standards anymore. Nebraska Reciprocity | Nebraska State Patrol
Puerto Rico - I have just about done all I can do with the Puerto Rico Page. Found out that the PR Admin Rules which would have a lot of details about other things in the law concerning carrying firearms will never be available in English. Seems you have to order a copy of the section you want and it cost 1$ a page. It will be in Spanish. I believe that is where you will find the Rules about the places you can’t legally carry in Puerto Rico plus if you must notify immediately etc. You have to buy them to find out if there is anything in them!!! The rules on the New gun law are 217 pages long. I would appreciate any information from anyone that is relevant to PR especially their places that are off limits etc.
For those wishing to translate more of the Admin Rules I have found Google translator Google Translate to be OK but not near as good as DeepL Translator. DeepL Translate DeepL is not free but lets you do so much then shuts off. So I type things in Google in Spanish and that lets me check major typing errors then copy it and paste in DeepL then copy the English and then exit the DeepL site only opening it again when I want to paste into it. Works that way for me. Time consuming but only way I can do it and get a better translation without being very proficient in Spanish. I have a tough enough time with English!!!!!
LEOSA - Things have quieted down since early this year with gun law changes. With Covid 19, Heat Wave, Medical Issues and just getting old I had more time at home to research. This also gave me time to translate 4 sections and parts of others of the PR Admin Rules. This lead me to updated many of the state pages LEOSA Sections. It has been a good while since I have spent time researching items concerning LEOSA. I have only been adding info and links to that section if they were mentioned in the Gun News.
MASKS - Illinois and DC are about the only two places we are hearing about that may be of concern. California Pen Code § 185 Law section[185.]
In DC § 22–3312.03 D.C. Law Library - SS 22–3312.03. Wearing hoods or masks.
The thing is both of them state: To conceal your Identity. I think wearing a mask that most people are wearing because of the virus will not cause you any problems especially if you are not breaking any other laws. I would not wear a bandana or similar type mask like you see in the Cowboy Movies! Those are the Stage Coach/Bank Robbers!! I have read numerous stories and have seen it posted on State Official Firearm sites saying it does not affect the carrying of legal firearms. Even IL State Police are saying no problem. CCL Frequently Asked Questions at this link and see the first FAQ about Masks in IL. https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/Faq.aspx So carry away and be the very law abiding citizen you have always been and you should have no problems. If IL is saying it is OK that says a lot for the rest of America.
Brandishing/Stand Your Ground/Castle Doctrine – I have put together a couple documents that give you links to the laws concerning or could concern these topics for each state. (I most likely posted them on this board in the last few days) They are not all encompassing. Some states don’t have Brandishing, Stand Your Ground or Castle Doctrine Laws but use another law for covering things like Brandishing a Firearm. Some states in the files have a listing that not all consider relevant to the issue while others do. Not agreeing on the laws is why we have Appeal type courts! I will put the files on the site so you can access them with these links but don’t know where we are going to put access on the site to them. These links will also take you to the newest edition of the file as I will most likely be making updates to them as I get feedback. I welcome feedback on these two documents. Please send feedback to [email protected] Thank you and Stay Safe, Gary Slider
https://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/...of_Firearm.pdf
https://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/...lf_Defense.pdf
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I don't know anything about Puerto Rico, But I'm amazed that Nebraska will take Connecticut, but not RI. I had to qualify at 25 yards in RI, plus background. Connecticut just wanted my fingerprints. I have RI, Mass and CT. They don't honor each other and on any given day I can be in any or all of them.
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MASKS - Illinois and DC are about the only two places we are hearing about that may be of concern. California Pen Code § 185 Law section[185.]
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re IL - Within a week or 2 after masks were being mandated the IL governor's office, the IL Attorney General, and the director of the IL State Police all issued a joint press release that masks mandated due to Covid are not an issue concerning the IL CCW statutes.
Easy to find the clarification with a simple websearch.
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