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View Poll Results: How many reload magazines do you carry when carrying your semi-auto?
I don't carry a reload magazine, just the one in the pistol. 60 25.10%
I carry one spare magazine. 120 50.21%
I tend to carry two spare magazines. 49 20.50%
I carry more than two spare magazines. 10 4.18%
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Old 11-17-2020, 11:26 AM
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I’m reminded of the off duty cop at the Trolley Square shooting in Utah a dozen years ago. He emptied his Kimber 1911 and was out of the fight in seconds. Apparently did not hit the guy, but that firing stopped the killing because the perp ran and hid. Still, I bet he wished he had a spare so he could have done more.

No one ever complained after a gunfight of having too much ammo. The opposite is not true. When convenience trumps competence, failure is more likely.
Or practced more so he could have scored hits?
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:20 PM
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Thanks, Muss. Great article. Much better detail than what i remember from the initial reporting.
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I’m reminded of the off duty cop at the Trolley Square shooting in Utah a dozen years ago. He emptied his Kimber 1911 and was out of the fight in seconds. Apparently did not hit the guy, but that firing stopped the killing because the perp ran and hid. Still, I bet he wished he had a spare so he could have done more.

No one ever complained after a gunfight of having too much ammo. The opposite is not true. When convenience trumps competence, failure is more likely.
Sounds like 'panic firing' to me.

If I were a cop (on or off duty), and inclined to intervene in situations, I would carry a spare or two, but since I'm not ...
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I’m seeing things like supression fire, mag dumps, attacker’s that don’t go down. All may be possibly needed, somewhere like the open range, Wild West, Afghanistan, land of the living dead. I have not been in a gunfight. I’ve read of and spoke to Combat Cross awarded NYPD, WWII, Korean and Vietnam vets.
Suppression fire? In combat yes. It never ended well for NYPD.
Most of us are protecting ourselves and loved ones. Who of us has been caught in a crossfire?

Statistics say the showing of a gun stops most criminal activity.
Shooting the first attacker stops the rest of the mob.
Vast majority of shootings end in one shot.
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Who of us has been caught in a crossfire?

I have. I was unarmed. The driver of our pickup truck emptied a .22 magnum revolver at a dude shooting at him with a 12 ga. 5-shot pump. Both ran out of ammo, slightly wounding each other. That’s 11 rounds total. 15 yards. Typical? No.

Statistics say the showing of a gun stops most criminal activity.
Shooting the first attacker stops the rest of the mob.
Vast majority of shootings end in one shot.
Statistics don’t mean squat when you are the outlier.

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Old 11-17-2020, 01:53 PM
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As much as I admire Mr. Cooper I ran out of ammo in the middle of a gunfight in 1974 (only had one reload of six). After that I carried a box of 50, plus my duty speedloaders, w/my service revolver. When we transitioned to the Glock I purchased extra mags to include the 33 rounder. In retirement I still carry extra ammo in my car’s center console.
Glad you made it out ok. I'd be interested in hearing more about this if you don't mind sharing. Was your reload of 6 in loops/pouch, or a loader? Did you carry a literal box of 50 on you, or in the car? Or was it a box worth in loops?
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Speaking of the box of ammo, I want to say it was a book I read about the 1986 Miami shootout that had something about extra boxes of ammo in FBI vehicles (glovebox). Like 80% sure I read it regarding that incident.

A box of ammo does work out well if it is a tradition revolver. It wouldn’t help me too much with my 642, since 9mm that isn’t on a moonclip would not headspace correctly. But I’m definitely big on extra magazines in the vehicle. I used to keep two extra 30 rounders under the seat of my truck for my AR pistol, but got rid of them at the start of the ammo rush. My AR pistol is running an Adams Arms upper, which I had the piston rod bend when I was practicing (bad heat treatment). So, when I got it back, used those two magazines to confirm zero/function. I carry Hornady CD and XM855 (the former is the one that I can’t get resupply of, currently). Whenever I get a minute, I might toss two magazines of XM193 in there (all POI the same).
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50% of the population is below average . . .

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I don't carry a spare. I have confidence in the mag in My gun. In 1976 when I was at Gunsite the first time I asked Mr Cooper why He didn't carry a spare. His reply was " If I need more than 8 rounds to solve the problem, there is a good possibility that I won't survive the conflict."
Maybe Jeff was right in another sense. If he needed more than 8, it would be the cause of his non-survival.

Anybody that says "if I can't do it in 6, or 8 . . . ." should do some force on force work. Play airsoft CQB. It'll open your eyes. You wouldn't believe how fast you can run through 8 rounds. And still need more.
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Pretty easy to run thru plastic pellets in a gym when your life and property and finances aren’t really on the line. Kinda like Call of Duty . . .

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For me it depends on the capacity or my carry and mags. I always carry two extra when carrying 1911, or my Kahrs. If carrying any of my M&Ps usually just one extra mag, either 13 or 15 rounds. I seldom carry a revolver any more but at least two reloads when I do.
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I'll admit that I've never done it with an Airsoft pistol. Just Simunitions. And live shoot houses. So I guess I'm just speculatin' . . .

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I carry one in the pistol and one spare when I carry my SD 40, and one in the the pistol and two spares with my 1911.
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Greetings!

In light of the current state of civil stability, for those of you that carry a semi-auto, how many magazines do you typically carry?

Thanks for participating in this survey. While I live in a state that mandates neutered magazines (10 rounds max), I am looking to get a feel for what my fellow forum members feel comfortable with.

Thanks in advance for your opinions!
I'll confess that I'm a "no spares" guy because I pocket carry and it's already a pain in the butt to carry my keys and change on my weak side.

But I am old, long-retired, currently living in a very safe area and I almost never go into any genuinely risky situations. In the "good old days" when I did, I often carried a New York reload.

I do not recommend anyone do as I do. It is minimal at best, but appropriate for my current situation.
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Been CCing since I got my permit six years ago. Now I never leave home without my CC and a reload.
After a while, I bought my unarmed hubby a CC permit class and a 9mm Shield identical to my carry. He took the class, and then EDCed the Shield with a reload.
When I switched my EDC to a CZ PCR, so did he, and both of us still carry a reload.
Since we're retired and mostly go out in public together, armed identically, I not only have a spare magazine, but also a "Wingman" with a spare magazine. That's 58 rounds till empty.
We live in a relatively safe suburban area, but we'd stick with this EDC setup wherever we go because we are very comfortable with it.
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After a while, I bought my unarmed hubby a CC permit class and a 9mm Shield identical to my carry. He took the class, and then EDCed the Shield with a reload.
That's interesting and seems really atypical. How did you end up becoming the family gun guy?
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That's interesting and seems really atypical. How did you end up becoming the family gun guy?
Nobody but the LEO in the family owned guns. We were always based in NYC - Long Island, but took many trips and temporary assignments out of state and country, so firearms ownership wasn't even considered until we retired to SC.
We dropped in on my childhood friend at Offutt AFB in Omaha, and her AF Colonel husband asked me if I was interested in firearms. I was affirmative, and he gave us a crash course then took us shooting the first time. It was a skeet course, and I loved it. Hubby didn't do as well as I did, and didn't much care for it.
But I was hooked. When we got home I signed up for Intro to Handguns, and then a CC permit course. Then after a while, I surprised hubby with a CC Permit course as a gift.

First ever trigger pull on an Omaha skeet course (a hit), with my friends hubby instructing.

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I carry a S&W 5906. No extra magazines, just the 15+1 with the firearm.
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In my quiet "Burb of the Burgh" it was my 3913 (7 rd., uncommon flush fit mag+1) and a spare mag (16rds ).........for 2 decades..... today I've switched to M Sparks double mag pouch worn between jeans and my belt. Total 24rounds.

With today's "weirdness" ..... I've switched to my Beretta 92 Compact at 15+1 and a spare 18rd mag ( all mags are mec-gar) if I'm leaving my Burb. Second 18rd mag in the center console of the truck. Extra ammo in my kit bag.

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One magazine in each pistol... LOL


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Usually one spare moonclip/speedloader (usually carry revolvers)
If I carry a bottom feeder like the Rami, 1 spare mag.
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When I worked uniform. I'd carry a minimum of two spare mags if it was something like a G22 or G17. When we went over to the G37 in .45 GAP, I carried three. Always had a BUG on me too. Either a J-Frame or a subcompact GLOCK of the same caliber as the main duty gun.

Off duty, I carry guns like my wife wears shoes and purses. It switches throughout the day depending on my mood. But I always carry a spare mag or speed loader. Hell, sometimes I still carry a BUG and a main CCW piece when off duty.

When I left uniform work and became a gumshoe. I carried one spare mag on me regularly but had my Tac-Vest set up with two additional spares. And of course, always had a BUG on me.
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One magazine in each pistol... LOL


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So for a western lawman, you do a New York Reload. Do you get your salsa from New York City too?

Just kidding.... fancy rig and nice setup. Two is one ain't a bad thing.
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Glad you made it out ok. I'd be interested in hearing more about this if you don't mind sharing. Was your reload of 6 in loops/pouch, or a loader? Did you carry a literal box of 50 on you, or in the car? Or was it a box worth in loops?
I was a plain clothes detective so my Colt DS was reloaded w/the one spare speedloader in my sportcoat pocket. The box of 50 was carried in my briefcase, along w/casejackets and various PD report forms, after the gunfight. Let me know in a PM if you want anything else, I’ll be glad to steer you to a magazine article from 2016.
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Typically 10+1 in the gun and one 10 or 12 round mag (depending on which gun) as a spare
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Two moonclips... 9mm J-frame (five rounds each). I have a third in a pocket carrier (same as the other two) if I’m going somewhere where I’d want an extra, and a spare in the truck.

If that can’t get it done, I have an AR pistol with 140 rounds between what’s in it and my vest, inside my truck. If it is that bad, the J-frame should get me back to the truck.
Ballistically, isn’t an AR pistol in .223 about like a .22 magnum with a little heavier bullet with about 5 times the muzzle blast?
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Ballistically, isn’t an AR pistol in .223 about like a .22 magnum with a little heavier bullet with about 5 times the muzzle blast?
...and 4-5 times the barrel length, and about double the velocity, therefore more than 4 times the muzzle energy (ME = M x V^2), and 3-5 times the ammo capacity, and a place for an optic, and...
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...and 4-5 times the barrel length, and about double the velocity, therefore more than 4 times the muzzle energy (ME = M x V^2), and 3-5 times the ammo capacity, and a place for an optic, and...

And to add... about 50% more bullet weight if you go in the 73-77 grain range.
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One spare mag anywhere there is cash, two if Walmart owns the business or parking lot. Type “shooting and Walmart”, it’s all about statistics.
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Ivoted I don't carry an extra. However at times depending on the area of town and how I feel at that particular time I will put an extra Mag. in my pocket, this is especially true for my P6 which is only 8 shots.
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Just the one in the gun....unless the news that morning shows mobs of people stopping traffic or coming up my block with F the police signs.
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Two J-Frames Two or Three Speed Strips. In the car or house is always extra Speed Loaders near by.
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I checked off on two magazines, but that's only when I'm carrying an 8-round, single stack P239 or P225. Same goes when carrying my 1911. I always carry a quick strip with my J frame 642, or my 66 snubby on our property. If I thought I was going to an armed confrontation, however, I'd carry my M11-A1 with at least two spare magazines--for long gun backup and close quarters defense--like I did when I was in LE.
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With a 1911 two seven round magazines.
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I had a type 3 malfunction (double feed) at Fed requals (which are timed).
This issue happened after only 3 or 4 rounds fired and could only be resolved by having another mag.
I carry 1 extra mag primarily for that reason. My pistol is 8+1.
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6+1 in the pistol, 2 7 rounders waiting in a pocket mag holster.
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A few years ago I used to carry 6 rounds and one speed strip of .38 special in my model 10 and think I was golden.

Now times and responsibilities have changed, one 17 round mag in the pistol and two in the pocket carried with Neomag holders.

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Greetings!

In light of the current state of civil stability, for those of you that carry a semi-auto, how many magazines do you typically carry?

Thanks for participating in this survey. While I live in a state that mandates neutered magazines (10 rounds max), I am looking to get a feel for what my fellow forum members feel comfortable with.

Thanks in advance for your opinions!

Bodyguard .380 I carry one extra mag with 6 in a Recluse pocket holster. If 13 mouse gun rounds can't get me out of a close quarter, last ditch, life or death, self defense situation, well the situation is F U B A R. My .38 BG I carry two 5 round speed strips in a pouch that I can throw in a pocket, my backpack or my car. the BG .38 is holstered in a Mika pocket holster or a Crossbreed Super Tuck IWB. Don't let 10 round magazine limits get in your head. Carry four ten round magazines if you feel the need. The important thing would be to familiarize yourself and be proficient with in battery reloads. Shoot eight or nine, strip mag, reload fresh 10. Don't wait for the slide to lock back (empty).
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Well my main piece is a Brn HP with 13shot mags. I feel comfortable with 7 extra mags plus one in the gun. That’s 104 rods of 9mm at a fingers touch.
I go light on extra ammo for my back up, a m36 S&W 38sp. I only carry three speed loaders for it. Thanks only 20 rods. I do however wear a cartridge belt with 25 rds of 12g 00 buck. This is in case I can access my truck where I’ve got a 8 shot riot gun with lasers. Not to forget my EDC Survival Bowie, folding hunter and Swiss Army knife. If I get cornered I got a 3 pack of Ninja throwing stars in reserve. This I find sufficient for daily needs unless I will be in Bear Country where it will require me to carry a
large caliber stub nose revolver. Better safe than sorry.
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I carry a Shield 9 with the eight round magazine. The seven round magazine in my weak side pocket.
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I don’t carry a spare magazine with my glock. It’s got 14 rounds and I hit what I aim at

. all kidding aside if I need more than 14 rounds I’m probably in already over my head
At the height of corona scare in April I was carrying a spare mag as the odds of people getting stupid seemed increased. I wouldn’t let my wife go grocery shopping without me.

I do Carry a spare speed reload with my J frame 5 shot but as a clumsy lefty I got a better chance running away than reloading

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With my LCP (6 rd) I carry two spare mags so total of 18 rounds. With my P10F I carry one spare (19 rd mags) for a total of 38 rounds. As a side convo, how many mags do you have for your each of your guns? Is there a thread for that topic already?
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Typically I carry the gun and 1 extra mag....occasionally 2.
I get the "If I cant solve the problem with whats in the gun" mentality...but people seem to forget magazines fail at a much higher rate than guns....
If your mag fails it doesnt really matter if you are using a Glock and 33 round mag.....It will be useless without a reload.
Plus an extra mag doesnt weigh hardly anything.....Definitely prudent to have at least one reload.
In the past 43 years that I have carried, I have had one mag failure, with bullets falling out of the mag secondary to a broken base plate. Not to worry I had multiple spare mags, due to the reality that mags fail. Bear hunt six mags 2 identical rifles, zeroed, cleaned and function tested 2 days before arrival at bear camp. The rifles were in double Pelican cases, in a friends brand new suburban. We went to check zero and the first mag would not feed?? It worked perfectly 2 days before and did not sustain any type of damage. So If you are carrying an auto, you MUST carry at least one spare, does not matter if it is a 33 round Glock or 6 round Keltec, and depending on the make, model of the gun it may not fire without a mag,. May need one shot only, but bullets are difficult to use when lying on the floor of the truck. Be Safe,
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For the 81 Beretta - 3
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It depends. If I'm carrying the Kahr .45, then 2 spare mags, in a High Noon Holsters "Double Take."

If it's the S&W 1911, then 3 spare mags since that's what my Andrews Monarch shoulder holster is able to carry.

I encourage all good guys to carry at least one reload. As I read on some forum "what are you going to do, wait for police with an empty gun?"

I don't think pockets are the best place to carry spare ammo....lint is one reason.

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