I carry the gun that I love the most that day.It’s not the gun it’s what you do if it goes click in instead of bang.If I thought for a second I would need a gun I would stay home ,if I really had to go I would take a real gun ,like a long one.

I'm not trying to be rude, but none of that is particularly informative or helpful, nor does it answer the question as posted by the thread.

Would you care to elaborate on what firearms are in your carry rotation and what criteria determines which firearm you might carry under differing scenarios? That would be a much more helpful response which would contribute a lot more to the thread.

Thank you.

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Shooting Comfort is bilateral.

I think he answered the question perfectly. I’m the same way. I look in the safe and carry what makes me happy that day.

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I guess I'm a little late to the party. I've been following this, but haven't made comment until now. Like so many of the retired and former LEO's here, I started with revolvers in 1977. Ammunition limitations weren't a big thing to us, as we were used to being limited to 5 or 6 rounds in the revolvers we carried. Reloads were the order of the day; first with speed strips or dump pouches and later with speed loaders. We carried two speed loaders on the belt, but most of us carried a number of others in our brief cases in the unlikely event of a protracted gun fight. If carrying a semi-auto while in a special unit (usually at 1911 for narcs and a Walther PPK/s) We were trained to always carry at least one spare magazine, more for the possibility of mechanical failure than anticipating the need for more rounds.

In my career, I saw the evolution of duty guns from revolvers to single-stack semi-autos to double-stack semi-autos. One thing remained constant; the need for reloads. As a firearms instructor for most of my career, I stressed the importance of carrying reloads off-duty as well as on. I retired with double-stack semi-autos being the standard issue in 2014. Officers had 46 or 51 rounds available on-duty and most carried at least one spare magazine off-duty.

Now retired, I've gotten used to carrying something that is more concealable. Whether I'm carrying a J-frame, a 1911, a Shield, or Glock, or P365, I always carry a spare speed loader or magazine. Would I feel under-armed with a 10 round or less capacity? Probably not. As others have said I'm less likely to be putting myself in a bad situation knowingly these days, and 10 or so rounds should cover my needs. However, I don't like being told by government how much of anything I need. Limitations on our freedoms do not sit well.

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The whole idea of a "carry rotation" is bad.

Hey, it's Monday, grrr . . . I'll just grab my Glock.
Tuesday, maybe the j-frame.
Wednesday, hump day, gotta have the 1911.
Thursday, think I'll try the new P365.
Friday, yippee, my 3" .357 needs to party.

And then the Jackboys show up, and you grab the pistole de jour, and do what? Maybe a "what do I have in my hand and how do I work it," which is a "404 not found," and you die.

No: I carry my full size M&P9 almost all the time, and the similar P365 only when I can't conceal the big guy. I don't have to wonder what's there when I reach for a gun, I know what's there.

This is street survival, not your girlfriend choosing which handbag to grab on the way out the door.


Your life, your choice.

I have seen the exact opposite lately in riot/mob situations. If you havent seen it, you havent been paying attention.

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Most dont practice enough with one gun much less a carry rotation. Yes I have more than one gun on my ccw & not all identical. Though I do shoot more than the average ccw & certainly more than the avg leo. Dry practice is also important for weapon familiarity.

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If arthritic hands prevent you from racking a slide, carry two revolvers. Use a New York Reload. Fire six shots; if the Jackboyz still persist, grab th other one and keep going.

Somebody yelling at you and calling you bad names at a not so peaceful protest while you open carry an AR which they then try to take because they're pretty sure you won't shoot them (even thought they sometimes find out they're wrong) is not a true bad guy. It's important to know the difference

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what difference does the gun make? Having one on you in a good safe holster knowing how to use it, paying attention to your surroundings ,moving ,using cover will make the difference. If there was a magic gun they would not make thousands of different ones.

Maybe a Glock 27.

The whole thing is arguably silly.

However, that's far from the first time some legislators have decided to craft a law that's "silly".

If it's the law, it's the law, until such time as someone has the support to change the law, or a court overturns it.

Sigh.

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I have a Smith & Wesson 625-8 Apex Custom 45 ACP/4" and I'm thinking of carrying Federal 230gr. HSTs. I currently carry 230gr. Hydra-Shoks. I'm an Elmer Keith type old fart Army vet.


Custom worked 625-8: Full trigger and action job consisting of the Apex Evolution IV parts kit and a level IV ICORE action work, chamfered cylinder, Hi-Vis replacement front sight and fully adjustable rear sight, bead blasted stainless finish, mooning and de-mooning tools, competition moon clip holder, Houge grips, Pachmayr grips, and smooth walnut JM grips, two polymer holsters, a USPSA moon clip rig, the factory case, and numerous moon clips.

As I live in California with a 10 round magazine limit and I believe the spirit of the OP's question was what kind of magazine fed weapon would you carry, another vote for a CZ75 PCR loaded with 9mm Gold Dots or the equivalent from another premium ammo maker.
10+1 capacity, a decocker for a DA first shot and an alloy frame for 27 ounce weight.

Or a Colt Lightweight Commander .45 with a standard 7 round mag and one in the chamber. I don't trust the 8 round 1911 mags and don't like mags that have extended floorplates on carry guns.

Well since I also currently reside in the People's Republic of California for the last six years my auto is a Springfield Armory XD .45 Service Model and I purchased some 10 round mags just in case since the socialists passed the 10rd. magazine ban and put my 13rd. mags in doubt.

You argued a bunch of silly propositions. Not real laws. Your argument is silly . . .

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Wisdom comes thru fear . . .

Only 10 rounds....Glock 30s!

The more I've looked into it, the more I'm leaning towards the M&P40c or the M&P40 Subcompact 2.0, which are actually more or less the same gun. I like it because it holds 10rds in a standard magazine, but can also take standard 15rd M&P40 magazines as well. That way, one way or another, I'm covered.

I know that I don't necessarily need more than 6 rounds and .40 S&W is no more effective against "jackboys" than 9mm or whatever, but carrying a gun that can hold more bullets which are larger in diameter makes me feel more secure, much like having a spare tire. So regardless of whether I have to use my firearm to fend off jackboys or persuade them to help me jack-up my car and change a flat tire, I can do so with a bit more confidence than I could carrying my LCP alone.

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Shooting Comfort is bilateral.

Ed Brown Kobra Carry 1911 in 45 cap.

I was carrying a S&W 21-4 in 44 special until the streets became so violent.

1911 seven plus one, a quicker reload and .02 ounces lighter.

And a j frame in the pocket.

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Smith, and Wesson, and Me.

I don’t live in a restricted state, but if I were to travel to one I’d carry my EDC. A Glock 27, 9+1.

I don’t live in a restricted state, but if I were to travel to one I’d carry my EDC. A Glock 27, 9+1.

I would only put 10 in the mag , and have had the mags for years , would any cops even enforce this liberal type law ?????? but 1911 would be my gun if I take it . in stead of MP9 or Glock .

Here, it’s about capacity not how many rounds are in the mag. A 12 or 15 round mag with 10 rounds in it would still be in violation of the law. Doesn’t matter how long you’ve had the mag.

Yes, they enforce it. Especially game wardens and troopers. Sheriffs and locals are hit and miss.

New York had a provision of the SAFE Act that restricted magazines to 10rds of ammunition regardless of when it was manufactured or when it was obtained. Meaning if you had what was originally a pre-ban 30rd mag for a AR-15, it had to be pinned or riveted to accept no more then 10rds.

Part of the law that was thrown out by the courts was that it also prohibited possession of a magazine if it is loaded with more than 7rds of ammunition, unless you are at a range.

So if you had a legal 10rd mag for a AR-15 at your home, you legally could not load it with more than 7rds.

Mags over 10 rounds were banned long before the SafeAct. The safe act took away the grandfather clause.

Yes, the high capacity mag would have to be pinned to be legal but must be permanent. It’s easier to just get 10 round mags so there’s no question.

The 7 rounds in a 10 round mag was deemed unconstitutional in circuit court but the law was never changed. People have still been charged with it but it’s usually only in connection to illegal guns.

Yeah, pre-ban mags were legal if they were possessed prior to September 13, 1994. NYS copied the Federal AWB verbatim. And yes, LE has arrested and charged people for violating the more than 7rd deal even after the courts said it was a no go. A number of those arrests were by the very Sheriffs in Upstate that said they wouldn't enforce the SAFE Act.

As for the trouble of pinning mags versus buying new. Some guns don't have new production 10rd mags. So it is pin or remove it from NYS.

Before I switch from my summer LCP to a J Frame I spend time at the range w/the J, at least 100 rounds, shooting self defense & reload drills.

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LEO (Ret.)

I know in my section of upstate NY I have never once had any police officer ever inquire about my handgun other than a Game Warden one time, and all he wanted was to see our permits. NY isn't a must disclose state, so I'm not sure how it would even come up commonly unless you have a habit of getting arrested or something.

1911A1 or just take the 14 round mag out of my CZ 2075 RAMI and put the 10 round in.

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Different strokes for different folks. I don't have a safe full of carry guns for nothing. I'd say I'm pretty good for with all of them. I do have my favorites... and where I am going and what I am doing (and wearing) will determine which I choose.

I'm not real big on the instant unthinking automatic reflex action thang. Too old for that. Fortunately, the need hasn't come up yet.

At home and at the range it’s full capacity let’s say 20 rds(9mm). For ccw carry it’s a 10rd mag only. We had to register larger capacity mags that we own. Better to shoulder holster a magnum.

We took another hit on the rifles that’s another post.

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Wilson Combat KZ45.

I live in TX, where we're not restricted, but my Carry pistol is my trusty (2012) Shield9.
My other consideration for a restricted State would be my G48.

My sentiments exactly. My EDC used to be a 10mm Kimber 1911, but for several years now, my EDC is a 5" Classic (full-underlug) 629 .44mag, stoked with 240gr Underwoods, in a homemade under-the-shirt vertical shoulder holster rig.

Sig 239
Kel tec pf9
Colt commander
Model 60

Carrying a Magnum Revolver is an interesting proposition, but as much as I would get a serious kick out of carrying a Smith & Wesson Model 29 with a 4" barrel like Dirty Harry, I think I would rather stick with a smaller, lighter semiautomatic pistol chambered in either .40 S&W or .45 ACP. (Cool as they are, I'm not really interested in carrying airweight revolvers.)

I'm still most interested in the M&P40 2.0 Subcompact, but the things are completely unavailable at the moment. I can't even find listings for any online right now, so unless availability improves within the next year or so, (which I'm not particularly optimistic about) I'll probably end up picking an alternative based on whatever happens to be available when the time comes.

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Shooting Comfort is bilateral.

Well...... I'm not in NY but.................. how about we think out of the box....

Looking at my "stuff".....................

3" 66 IWB behind the right hip as primary .....w/ one speed loader in a split-six in front.....

add a ....................

Sig 245 (6+1) in a cross draw at 10-11 O'clock with 2 spare 8rd 220 mag with X grip adaptors behind................

that's 6+6 + (6+1)+ 16 = 35 ...... very John Wick

< 10 rounds/ mags....... are not an impediment that can't be overcome!!!!!!!!!! in about 10 minutes.

Just a point of parliamentary procedure, but Inspector Harold Francis Callahan’s Model 29 had either the 8 3/8” or the 6 1/2” barrel, depending upon the scene . . .

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Wisdom comes thru fear . . .

Thank god, I live in a free state. But I was limited when carring in NJ (under LEOSA) for my daughter's USCG graduation. Due to mag limit and no hollowpoints, I carried my Glock 30 with FMJ ball. If forced to carry FMJ, I want them fat.

Sig P-239. Not the lightest but I don't shoot polymer well. I have a P-30 that I'm experimenting with but so far I'm not shooting it as well as my P-239's. 1911 is out of the question. That's a hundred year old cavalry/horse pistol and I don't have a horse.

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That's just somebody talkin.

If I'm limited to 10 rounds? Well, 10 rounds of course.

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I don't live in a restricted state but my Mom lives in CT so I leave a Glock 30 and a Sig P220 at her house and lots of .45ACP ammo to carry when visiting.

But my other favorite SFPD copper, Jack Cates, had a 4” Model 29, at least until Ganz took it and killed Mike Ehrentraut from Breaking Bad with it.

This thread is a hoot.

33 years in law enforcement and I’ve never run into a “jack boy”. Must be a sex thing.

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“What you got, ain’t new.”

That nice fella' that mentioned it hasn't ever run into one either. And never will . . .

(Edit: I was thinking slang for roadside assistance . . . )

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Wisdom comes thru fear . . .

Two .357 Magnum J frames.

My default is the USP Compact (9mm or .45 acp) and/or 5-rd S&W 640-1 with .38+p Gold Dot. These have been my go-to's for years.

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Tom in AZ
Respect the Dingbat

Sig 228 with any ammo I have.

SA EMP Concealed Carry Contour 4" 9mm, SA RO Champion 45acp, or my Shield PC .45acp

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Is that a gun No a lifesaver

In states that limit to Ten rounds, do they limit how many mags you can carry?

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Two Handguns every day