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Jacket Pocket Carry of L or N Frame
I’ve realized I prefer a larger bore revolver with a 3-inch barrel (a model 24 or a model 69 loaded with 44 spl) when I’m walking in rural New England and want to be prepared for critters. With it getting really cold, a belt holster isn’t a viable option (excuse me, Mr. Bear, can you wait a sec while I unzip my jacket so I can draw from holster?). So, it seems to make sense to instead place the wheelgun in my jacket pocket.
I’d prefer to have a pocket holster when I do so to avoid the usual issues. Does anyone know of any large frame revolver pocket holsters out there?
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My go to guys for pocket holsters is DiSantis, and they got nothing!
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If you’re big enough to pocket carry an N frame, you probably don’t need to carry a gun.
FWIW, when I carry 3-4 inch N frames, I use a shoulder rig, fanny pack or OWB at 4 o clock.
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The problem is the front sight wearing a hole in the pocket.Will this be a walk of a few minutes,or a longer hike? Perhaps a "boot" slipped over the front sight will be sufficient.It seems your interest is getting the gun into action quickly...
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It's for walks/hikes running anywhere from 30 minutes to a few hours. Includes on rural roads, so open carry not a good idea. While L and N frames seem big, with a warm winter jacket, you've got pretty big pockets to put items in. Speed of presentation -- yes, that's important. If a critter (say, a bear) suddenly shows up, I'd rather have options available if needed
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I have been very pleased carrying my N-frame revolvers in a Bianchi 111 Cyclone holster. I wear it in the cross draw mode. Usually wear a M-65 heavy coat w/ liner, etc. for really bad weather. It is not difficult at all to simply pull the coat up with the left hand and draw the revolver with the right hand. No need to unzip the coat. The bottom of the coat has a elastic cord made into the garment that allows the wearer to pul the bottom of the coat together for protection from the weather while retaining easy access to the billfold in the hip pocket and of course the revolver in the holster. HTH. Sincerely. bruce.
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I think you're asking a lot of a jacket pocket to carry a L- or N-frame. Have you tried this already?
Maybe something like a Ruger SP101 loaded with heavy .357 Magnum rounds, like those made by Buffalo Bore, would be more pocketable.
If you still want to go the L/N-frame pocket route, you may want to check out Remora holsters. They sell sticky-type holsters that can be worn IWB without a clip that can also serve as a pocket holster. I have one for my Beretta 92FS and one on order for my 5" 1911 (I use them as nightstand holsters, not for carry), so they may make one big enough for your guns of choice. I also think the L-frame would be better suited for pocket carry than an N-frame, though neither would be "ideal."
Just my opinion.
Best of luck to you in your search.
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Usually wear a M-65 heavy coat w/ liner, etc. for really bad weather. It is not difficult at all to simply pull the coat up with the left hand and draw the revolver with the right hand.
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I do the same when wearing a jacket. I try to get my jackets sized and constructed so I can still access the gun on my hip by lifting up the jacket. Additionally, it's the same motion I use when wearing my usual cover garment, an untucked shirt, so my draw motion is consistent under stress.
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Probably not going to help you, but the few times hubby jacket-pocket carries my 2.5 inch 686, he borrows a velcro sleeve holster from one of my CC handbags. It's sticky enough on his pocket liner, but I could sew a piece of velcro to the liner if he carried that way often.
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An N-frame, even with a short barrel, is still a large and heavy revolver. I'm not sure that coat pocket carry is a really viable option.
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FWIW I use a horizontal shoulder holster.... only have to unzip half way and the off side reloads helps balance everything....the coat/jacket hold everything in place..........
Can't imagine a 3"n-frame in a pocket..... unless you balance the load ...my guess is the coat will hang to the side with the gun in the pocket!
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Oh Yeah! Big bore snubbies here we come.
I can pocket carry this 44 Magnum in my Levis 501's
Or, pick a 45 ACP. Shown are a 625-3 and a 25-2 Jovino.
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Might I suggest a conceled carry vest, to go under your jacket?
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Give this guy a call. He makes custom holster and his pricing is good.
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Bob Mika can make you a pocket holster to fit just about anything! They're inexpensive, work great and last for a long time.
Here's a round bottom he made for my N frame 327PC (old photo). I ordered it just for winter pocket carry in a Carhartt coat.
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Interesting thread. A question I have for pocket carrying a large revolver ( or pistol for that matter) is; a really good, wide, supportive belt is required to comfortably hold up your pants. What belt do some of you wear. ??
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It is a shame that Smith & Wesson introduced the 2 1/2" Night Guard revolvers when they did. They were a good ten years too early.
I think that Scandium alloy is the best thing to happen to N-frames since stainless steel hit us
The three 2 1/2" Night Guards pictured above are the 310NG, 327NG, and 357NG. The Model 327NG carries eight rounds of 357 Magnum ammunition and weighs in several ounces lighter than a 2 1/2" Model 19/66 would weigh
You can still find them, but they are getting expensive
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FWIW I use a horizontal shoulder holster.... only have to unzip half way and the off side reloads helps balance everything....the coat/jacket hold everything in place..........
Can't imagine a 3"n-frame in a pocket..... unless you balance the load ...my guess is the coat will hang to the side with the gun in the pocket!
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Instead of a conventional CCW shoulder holster in this situation I'd advise an old school tanker chest rig. This would position the holster over the heart, for a right handed shooter, making it very easy to get to under a heavy coat.
Sort of like these
Alien Gear Cloak Chest Holster - Over 500 Guns Available
1942 “Tanker” Holster – 3″ to 5″ Barrels – El Paso Saddlery
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I’ve realized I prefer a larger bore revolver with a 3-inch barrel (a model 24 or a model 69 loaded with 44 spl) when I’m walking in rural New England and want to be prepared for critters. With it getting really cold, a belt holster isn’t a viable option (excuse me, Mr. Bear, can you wait a sec while I unzip my jacket so I can draw from holster?). So, it seems to make sense to instead place the wheelgun in my jacket pocket.
I’d prefer to have a pocket holster when I do so to avoid the usual issues. Does anyone know of any large frame revolver pocket holsters out there?
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I'd want something much more capable of carrying the weight than a jacket pocket, no matter how heavy the coat. Pocket carry gets uncomfortable because the gun weight also pulls the coat down, you're going to be readjusting it the whole time. Practice pulling up the coat with your weak hand while drawing with the strong hand, just like you practice anything else to get good at it.
Another option is a cross-draw, either from the belt or from a chest or shoulder rig. I use a M3-style chest carry for my N frame when in the woods or out working in the field. It rides higher than a belt carry, more forward than a shoulder carry; all you have to do is unzip, and reach in. Last pic is mirror-image, I'm right handed.
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As a former CT resident and person who hiked and biked all over the northeast before moving west the bear concern seems fairly bogus. For S&Gs I took a look at the stats of Maine and New Hampshire (you can check the rest if you'd like, but these are some of the least developed of the new england states), and they had their last recorded fatal bear attacks in the 1830s and late 1700s, respectively.
Pocket carry of anything remotely heavy is also quite annoying due to the sag of that side of the jacket, the inability to get to the gun if you're wearing a belt on your pack, and if it's cold enough that you're wearing a heavy coat you're either keeping your hands in your pockets, which I don't love to do with a gun in there, or wearing gloves which becomes another hassle.
Your largest real concern are two legged predators, but if the bear worry is more of a reason to carry a larger revolver than anything else, which is totally fair, look into something like these:
Hill People Gear | Real use gear for backcountry travelers
I've got one of the originals that I use with all my fly fishing gear, and bring a handgun with me when I feel like it in areas of MT, WY, and AK where nature becomes a concern.
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What about a Sticky Holster?? I use one for my Shield & like it.
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I made a couple for guns I carry, small ones. Possibly they would work on a N Frame. Using upholstery leather, I cut out the shape I needed, and had the local shoe repair stitch it up. I leave the rough side out, (to be retained in the pocket if you have to draw it), and smooth side in. It has worked well so far with Ruger LCP and J Frame's.
It adds almost no bulk, but keeps any other articles from getting into the trigger, hammer, etc.
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I pocket my M69 on occasion.
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Are you in horse country? (Old shoemakers are mostly dead nowadays) How about having a saddlemaker reinforce and line your coat pocket with leather? Back when we had a real men's store in town they had tailor who knew how to fit a man's clothes for packing iron.
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FWIW I use a horizontal shoulder holster.... only have to unzip half way and the off side reloads helps balance everything....the coat/jacket hold everything in place..........
Can't imagine a 3"n-frame in a pocket..... unless you balance the load ...my guess is the coat will hang to the side with the gun in the pocket!
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That's why I'd put a couple of speed loaders in the other side pocket (and maybe a few other things too).
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In the cold weather, I use concealed carry outerwear from Berne. I have both the vest and the coat, and highly recommend them. I carry a Commander-sized 1911, so a short barreled "L" or "N" frame should be fine. You'll find their stuff HERE.
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Adams holsters can make whatever you need in leather or kydex. My 3" 629 is a little heavy in my pocket, belt and suspenders day. adamsholster.com Be Safe,
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Remora makes them for N frames. I have one for my 627 PC. Fits perfectly and fairly cheap to buy.
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My 325 loaded weighs in a whole 25 oz loaded with 6 200 gr 45 acps.
That is just 1 oz heavier than my J frame 640-1 with 5 158 loads
Bit bulkier true, but worth it and my coat has big pockets anyway.
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