Unfortunately, that happens around here, too, and on both sides. Some say that if you carry anything less than a double-stack 9mm you're gonna die, and others who say if you carry more than 5 or 6 shots you must plan on missing a lot.

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG...?!?!

Naaa, a Raven is much better.

They can quote "Nevermore" when you pop the perp.

Rob

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I think the main thing is just for people to not get so wrapped up in their choice of defensive pistol. We're on a part of an online gun forum dealing with self-defense, it's absolutely reasonable for people to discuss the latest and greatest, and the development of small, light, high capacity (relative to size) autos is pretty neat!

It's reasonable to discuss pistol dots. I tried dots on handguns, and I can see the advantages (I still have one on my .22 Victory), but they're not for me until a reliable auto-brightness is standard.

I often carry AIWB. The holster goes on with the pistol in it. No futzing around, no problem. It is very body type dependent, and I'm lucky enough to have an active lifestyle that keeps the gut off (mostly...) and keeps AIWB viable. If I didn't, it'd be super uncomfortable. There are also plenty of times where it sucks, like biking, backpacking, or running.

I've also carried plenty of J, K, L, N frames and Rugers of all sizes and calibers, on the hip, chest, and even an ankle once! Not once was I killed, nor would have I been had I been carrying pepper spray, or my tiger repellant rock.

If we're all min/maxing our chances for survival in day to day life, we're running, eating healthier, drinking less, and never asking anyone when the baby is due. But since we all like guns, we carry em, post em, and discuss them. We should also be able to discuss improvements in defensive weapons without worrying about being called out for thinking having more than five rounds is a positive, and without (seen more on the rest of the internet, but not here as much) telling people carrying a J frame that they'll be dead in the streets in no time.

Just the thought brings tears to my eyes!

An often used analogy, but not a good one in my mind. Fire extinguishers and smoke detectors are passive. Install them and you only have to think about them once a year for maintenance. Same thing with a fire suppression system, it just costs more. A better analogy in my mind would be standing fire watch 24/7/365 on your house.

Carrying a concealed weapon with the intention of defensive use requires constant vigilance and frequent training for a situation that will most likely never occur. Not saying I'm opposed to anybody doing that. Your call. But statistically for 99.5% people it's a waste of time and ammo from a purely practical sense.

The reality is they like it, and do it as a hobby.

TO MAKE ONION RINGS

I don't know what triggered the OP to post that lengthy rant. But, FSW maybe you should quit hanging around with people you feel so offended by, or quit reading gun rags or, I don't know, quit participating in gun forums. If you're simply reading someone's advice and feeling so threatened by it, perhaps some self-examination is in order. Whatever you're offended by, your condescending rant is equally so.

No onions or garlic on my gun belt neither....

I stick to what I know for sure & certain, neigh near half a century.

S&W revolvers for sport and fun.

Colt 1911s for serious work and edc.

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I wonder if anyone who has found themselves in this statistically negligible scenario has ever said, "Thank God I am not armed"?

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Fort Lauderdale, FL

I wear Limburger cheese on my belt. Probably no gun needed.

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Too much verbiage. OP should have just said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

My 10's and 36 have worked sine I finished the academy 34 years ago. Didn't switch to a 9mm when they were authorized, wheel gun got me through some rough places and bad actors. Guess I'm missing out on a computer sight on top of my gun.

nope......AR stands for "A Robin" not automatic rifle

Onion Lover here.
I like them so much that often I carry an Onion Knife.

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Ammo might prove useful.

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I have to say that I agree with the OP, but feel the need to reassure him......I will not be coming anywhere near his, uh...onions.

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I, for one, am happy that people who are still experimenting with what works for them have such a vast array of choices available to them. I had a chance to handle several of the new high(er) capacity polymer (sorta) micro 9mms this week. I would have been hard pressed to choose between them, even though none of them featured root crops, and I didn't see anything to be gained by replacing what I already carry. While I wish that variety had been available to me 40 years ago when I was acquainting myself with DA Smith & Colt revolvers, 1911s and S&W 39s, it wasn't.

At this stage in life I recognize that learning a new manual of arms, sight picture, shooting stance, etc would not only require developing new skills, but "unlearning" practices backed up with 4-plus decades of muscle memory and confidence. So if you feel unarmed unless you are carrying the latest (and soon to be obsolete) piece of gear by all means, go, buy, train and be well. I'll stick with what has worked for me thus far.

If you really think it is any of your business whether what is concealed on my person carries 5 rounds or 15 or is in a caliber starting with a 3 or a 4, realize it is no longer my duty to protect you. If it proves that what I carry is inadequate to protect me, I reconciled myself to that possibility back when I carried 3 guns along with responsibility for the safety of 15,000 people every night.

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I suspect the vast majority of folks here who carry on a regular basis have never ever had to use their weapon for self defense. So I guess they carry what and where they think it will work the best for them, if they ever have to use it. I suspect that if they ever do have to use it they could easily have their mind changed afterwards. My early experience with carry was in the jungles of Vietnam which was a whole lot different that strolling the streets of Nashville.

As someone who carries daily, I can think of at least two times, having a gun kept me from being a victim. I won't urge you to carry, but your statistic argument stinks.

I have two CC pistols. Either a lightweight J carrying 125gn+P or a Ruger LC9s. I thought I was alone thinking if I cant solve a personal protection problem with 5 0r 7 shots theres something wrong with my shooting. I see people speaking of high capacity and extra mags for "cover fire" do they think they are in Vietnam or Afghanistan? I carry what I do because 1) I can carry them in anything I wear. 2) Ican hit what I shoot at and spend my money on ammo and practice, not the latest plastic fantastic