Trying to keep up with the latests trends regarding self-defense and concealed carry have left my head spinning. It seems like every couple of years at most everything gets turned on its head, with the latest trend often going completely against the previous trends. Things which were once considered absolutely vital are discarded as useless gimmicks only to be replaced by new things which are pushed as vital.
If that wasn't enough, there are always the trendy folks who will boldly assert that those who don't conform to the latest trends don't take their self-defense seriously.

Frankly, I'm fed up with it, and what seem to have become the latest trends I completely disagree with. I refuse to crotch carry, it's uncomfortable to me both physically and psychologically. I'm not going to replace my carry gun with the latest micro wonder 9, nor will I be mounting a holographic sight on my carry gun because it just seems silly and superfluous, especially at common self-defense distances within 7 yards. Nor am I going to relearn how to shoot from a new stance when I already shoot fine from the one that I use, I don't care if it makes it easier to Shatner Roll during gunfights or whatever rationality makes it superior.

Last but not least, I'm not strapping an onion to my gunbelt. Granted, I can see it coming in handy at lunchtime, but I'm not opening that can of worms just so that I can be told that Vidalia Onions are outdated and I need to upgrade to a Bermuda Onion immediately.

If you want to want to tuck your 9mm micro pistol fitted with an optic into your waistband with an onion attached to your belt, then that's fine, you do you, just let me do me. I'd rather carry a .40cal OWB 4:00, use the actual sights to aim if need be, shoot from a stance that I'm already familiar with, and leave my onions in the kitchen.

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Shooting Comfort is bilateral.

Stop liking what I dont like! Progress in all fields occurs, doesn't mean you gotta go with it.

J-Frame S&W , 38 special (with a hammer) in the front pocket , Cargo Shorts in Summer , coat in Winter , fixed factory sights .
Old school just plain works for a lot of guys who don't claim to be interweb gun experts . We just don't run off at the mouth .
Gary

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Bolding mine, but I sure see an awful lot of 5 shots is all you need, we don't need more than that on this forum. It's an internet gun forum, we're all running our mouths about our opinions on guns and related issues, kinda what it's there for.

Obviously you're not former SEAL/Special Forces/CIA, and an expert firearms and tactics trainer like all the rest of us!

I agree, a small pistol in my pocket meets all my needs.

Onions??? I love 'em, but everybody knows they can't save your bacon.

Garlic is another story... It can keep you from waking up undead!

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Onions in your belt? Never heard of such a thing.....anyone care to elaborate?

Randy

Am I the only one confused by the onion reference...?

Anyways...

Different things work for different people. If you've found something that works for you, great. If you don't like something else, great. Not so great to bash something simply because you don't like it.

I don't carry AIWB. My experimentation with it proved uncomfortable. So it's not for me. But I can also see the pros and cons, just like every carry method.

I've gone from EDCing a 5-shot snub, to a polymer double-stack nine, to a steel 1911. So in that sense I guess I'm going "old-school." But I'll still carry the other guns from time-to-time, most often the snub as a BUG.

I'm personally not a fan of optic sights on concealed carry guns. But I know they can be very useful and effective for people who choose to use them.

I'm not one of those guys who consider night sights an essential piece of hardware on a defensive gun. They can be useful in some circumstances, but aren't necessary. That doesn't mean I think they're worthless for those who choose to use them.

I was originally trained in the Weaver stance and used it exclusively for several years. But after researching the fighting Isoceles stance with a thumbs-forward grip and it's biomechanical advantages, I experimented with it and now it's the primary stance I use. That doesn't mean the Weaver stance is nonsense. I still use it occasionally for longer-distance shots.

In other words...

To-may-to, to-mah-to, let's call the whole thing off.

What does Gecko45 say?

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Made it, Ma! Top of the world!

It’s in post #1.

Confused just by the onion reference......I was confused through his emtire post.

Careful about insulting the onions. Remember how the tomatoes became killers.

Old pic but still applicable:

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Rusty - I like your rig, but the bird on the scope is kind of "out there"....Everyone knows a crow makes for a better tactical response bird on an AR.

Larry

OP, can you show us on this doll where the mean modern tools and techniques hurt you?

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Pickpocket

It's fer windage and allows me to go unnoticed in BassPro.

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My throat, obviously. That's where they keep on being rammed down, you know?

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Shooting Comfort is bilateral.

Basically, a rant about all them newfangled doo-dads people put on their shootin' irons.

I figure he was referring to one of these, but I’m not sure...

Designed by Ken Onion:


It might come in handy at lunch time, but it weighs almost a pound and a half and cost $300. I’d need a belt and suspenders, to keep from having that plumber thing going. NOBODY wants to see that!

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"I also cook."

Some folks just have to have the latest, greatest and coolest thing out there. Just look at those folks who get in line the night before to buy the newest phone that's coming out.
If that's what you want and it works for you, great, more power to ya.
Myself, I'm a believer in the old KISS principal. I'm also a big believer in the old saying "Never trust your life to anything that requires a battery."
On another forum I visit there's a thread going about mini red dots on EDC guns. Best brand, size, type, mounts, etc. Well, I was foolish enough to chime in and say I didn't like them and why. WHOA! What a poop storm that started!
Never get between a techie and his new toy.

Wait a minute! Ya mean I didn't have to put that grenade launcher on my handgun accessory rail? Guess I'll just have to go back to the 23,000 lumen assault light...

As it relates to appendix carry... having shared a hospital room with a patient that literally blew his testicles off, I'll pass.

The potato goes in FRONT.

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The best I can with what I got

That’s where I keep mine

So...appendix carry...?

Maybe it is the elusive Partridge sight.

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I guess that would make the rifle a PR-TREE.





I'll show myself out...

*hides*

You and I are riding the same hoss.

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I tried appendix carry once, but the twins kept trying to retreat back and up out of harms way. Talk about walking funny. In order to keep peace in the family I had to move the shooting iron back around to the side. Now the twins are happy again.

Dose that include Davis, Jennings, Bryco, NAA, Derringers, assorted mouse guns, .22&.25 cal., no round in the chamber, pocket carry with out a holster, Mexican carry, no trigger guard? Not directing this at you ContinentalOp, more to the Your not serious about self defense unless...................................crowd.

OK ! Can someone please clue my feeble mind in on what's going on here ? I wear garlic daily to keep them weird-wolfs at bay; but onion ??

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John

For 99.5% (or more) of concealed carry crowd it doesn't matter what they carry or how they use it. Why? Because the odds of you ever deploying it, let alone firing it, are way below 1 in 100. It varies depending on estimates and who's numbers you use but it's very, very, low.

There's probably more negligent discharges by concealed carriers than defensive uses. That's just a guess, hard to find data on that.

I have a CHL and am not opposed to it, but if you look at the numbers objectively, it's hard to come to a different conclusion. Of course those are averages. It will probably vary quite a bit based on your personal risk profile.

True, but the odds of having a housefire are probably even lower, yet you wouldn't rely on a bucket of water in case you had a fire. Smoke alarms and fire extinguishers are good. A fire sprinkler system in a single family home is about the equivalent of carrying a Glock 17 with a red dot site and four mags, a fighting knife, and a first aid kit. It's not wrong, it's just statistically unlikely to all be needed.

Onions, Garlic, and peppers oh my.

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If I need to pull out a gun, all I need is the gun. Everything else is superfluous. All of that marketing is just that.

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Personally, I think a bare minimum should be safe and reliable, in terms of both the gun and carry method, as well as usable under stress. Beyond that, it's user preference. I'm not going to judge someone (or at least try not to judge someone ) if they rely on something I consider subpar. It's their choice. Not everyone can afford a Sig, Glock, or whatever. Sometimes we have to make do with the resources available to us. Not having the resources doesn't mean someone isn't serious about self defense.

Just my opinion.

Dude, you're making me hungry...

All good points. And I certainly hope that I and everyone here are in the group that never has to use a gun in self defense.

From a risk management perspective, I would consider self defense to be a low probability, high consequence event. The chances of it happening are very low, but if it does happen, the consequences can potentially be very serious, life or death, or serious injury. Everybody has to make their own risk assessment and choose the tools they think will best serve them, whether it's a 5-shot snub or a pair of Glock 21s.

Just my opinion.

Thanks to all for the funniest thread I have read in months.
Forte had a first-class rant, full of truth, and the good natured posts that followed were golden... Especially the Simpsons video. I was laughing out loud, a well needed exercise.

I do have a G26 with red dot. And I carry AIWB.
I still prefer shooting a classic wheel gun, but as I fully recognize that my eyes are not improving with age, while the red dot is a nice compensation. However, I may now have a sly smile and even a chuckle when I put on my G26. I might even sniff for the smell of onions.

Reminds me of what I went through on the old now-defunct Kansas forum. I said that I was better with revolvers and this guy said that EVERYONE was better with the striker-fired pistols. He said that those who held to anything except SF weapons were unevolved, fudds, etc, and he called me dangerous because I carried wheelguns and disagreed with him. He got quite abusive about it.

I still harbor the suspicion that this guy was a major reason that the owner did not bring the forum back after it was hacked.

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In Louisiana Onions , Garlic and Peppers are refered to as the "Trinity" in cooking and just about every good dish starts out with them ... Can you make a Roux ... if so you can cook Cajun & Creole !
Gary

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Still waiting to hear what the onions purpose is, or better yet, what is the onion for?

Ask Grandpa Simpson...

Read the thread again, it was answered with a video when another person asked. It's a Simpsons reference.

Dr. Fauci gets around.


I find a bone stock G43X in a Galco Royal Guard Gen 2 Holster very comfortable for AIWB EDC. I have added a ring charging handle so I can easily rack it while drawing.

Carry what YOU like.

Pretty sure there is no wrong answer.

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Fort Lauderdale, FL

Can you see reaching for your gun and grabbing an onion instead?

I think the trinity in Cajun cooking has traditionally been onions, bell pepper, and celery, but there's nothing wrong with adding garlic and other peppers (hot) too, as many probably do...

FWIW, that's what I use when I make red beans and rice.