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Old 03-16-2009, 07:38 PM
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I'm looking into getting a laser grip to my gun. To those who used them, are they any good? How difficult is it to sight in? Any issues with them? Opinions are appreciated, thanks.

This one: http://www.crimsontrace.com/Ho...bid/232/Default.aspx
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I'm looking into getting a laser grip to my gun. To those who used them, are they any good? How difficult is it to sight in? Any issues with them? Opinions are appreciated, thanks.

This one: http://www.crimsontrace.com/Ho...bid/232/Default.aspx
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:56 PM
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They're good. They're easy to sight in. I feel that they're best used as a training aid, as they don't show up well at all in the arc-lamp New Mexico sun. I tried using it in lieu of tritium sights and found that I was much better off using a flashlight (you still need to identify your target) and the regular sights on the gun.

By the way, my friends who've had all three for the J-frame say not to get the cheap one that you're considering, but rather to get this one:

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Old 03-16-2009, 08:44 PM
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I have them on my M&P and 642, and my wife has them on her Ruger LCP. They have never given us any problems, are easy to sight in, and are extremely accurate.

Watch these videos by Crimson Trace and then check out their forum.

http://www.crimsontrace.com/Ho...bid/396/Default.aspx

http://forums.crimsontrace.com/index.php

Bought mine here...great prices and service:

http://www.shooterssupply.com/...on_lasergrips_by.htm
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:14 AM
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Another vote for the 405, the 105's HURT !
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:51 AM
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Does the laser come sighted? What is the process to sighting it?
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Old 03-17-2009, 10:01 AM
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Not really, but it's not far off.

You put the grip on the gun, sit down at a bench, shoot the gun, and then use the Allen wrench to adjust the laser dot to hit the group at the distance you want.
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Old 03-17-2009, 10:24 AM
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Ditto on price and service from Shooters Supply. Saved something like $75 over the factory price, and fast service. Dave
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:12 PM
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It took me about 10 minutes and 10 rounds to get mine sighted in, that was 3 years ago and they are still dead on target. I remove them when I clean the gun per CT's recommendation, and the sighting isn't changed one bit once they are reinstalled. I change the batteries every six months, even though they still work fine.

As a side note, the CT laser on my wife's LCP started getting fuzzy after a couple of months. When she called CT they said they would send out a new one the next day and to just send hers back in the same box with the return label. Great service with no hassle.

The 105's were the first ones made for the J frame...think you would much prefer the newer model, much easier on your hand when shooting.
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I bought the 305's for my j-frame and they are very nice on the hand when shooting but were not good for concealment when I went to put my M442 in my pocket. I just purchased the 405's which are not as comfortable for shooting but work just fine for concealment.
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I first put the hi-viz sight on my 340, then the 405 Crimsom trace, awsum. I can put 4 out of 5, freehand, in the 9 ring at 21' using just the laser.
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:48 AM
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I think they're great, I've got LG105's on my 9mm 360 and the Taurus version, LG185, on my wife's 905. I like that model because, IMO, they fit better and look better than the others, and they don't have any soft rubber to drag on fabric. There's no difference between shooting with them than wooden grips.

As far as sighting them in, it's not difficult, but they are supposed to be on at 50 feet from the factory. I had to tweak the ones on my gun a bit but wife's set is spot on.
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Good things to hear. The reason I want the 105 is because I recently got the power port 637, and it was a PIB to find a holster for it, all I could find were either for 2" or 3". Now, it's in a 3" Blackhawk nylon holster, and it's not a good fit, very loose. Also,I need it to be more concealable, a different grip is needed and one with a laser is a plus.

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I have the crimson trace laser on my MPc and it works very well. I had to get a bit used to the grip as it feels pretty similar to the large palm swells taht come with teh MPc. Now im looking for a good IWB holster that will accommodate the laser. Any ideas
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You can press check easily to see how "close" the adjustment is after installing. Lean down into a well supported bench rest type position while looking through the guns iron sights, at a target between 20 and 30 feet away. Position the laser's "pip" to touch the top of the front blade while holding a proper iron sight picture on the target. You should be very close then at the range.
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I have the 305's on my 642. The CT was factory installed at S&W and has the S&W logo on the grip. Came sighted-in from the factory so no adjustments required to date...dead on!
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:48 AM
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I use them on several J and L frames and love them.
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They work well in any indoor situation and even cloudy day outside if the battery is in good shape. However, you must decide immediately which sights you are going to use because your eye focus is on the front sight with conventional sights and you will waste time searching for the red dot, then dropping to the front sight. I'm going to use the iron sights unless I KNOW that conditions are good for the laser. Also it could give away your position. I set the laser straight and adjust my point of aim, rather than cross them at some chosen distance. It will virtually cross at 1.5 in. of drop. Ace
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Sounds complicated....I just put the red dot on target and pull the trigger. Works from 1 foot out to 20 yards in bright sun, much farther in low light. Works the same on my J frame and M&P9.
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I don't find that to be so in bright sunlight. You try it for yourself, and when the battery is not new. Then decide which is faster. Not during a gunfight. Ace
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