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Gentlemen/Ladies,

Handgunlaw.us is seeking information on carrying on Airport Property (Parking Lots). Inside the terminal up to the sterile area. By law can you or can you not carry in these areas in Airports. I would appreciate giving me the statute and I will look them up. I want to add this info to Handgunlaw.us so people can know the law and stay within the law. I am searching myself but any help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Some states will have no laws concerning this. That will be the hard part. The law could be outside the firearm laws of the state and not easily found. When there is no law then we believe it is OK. Pittsburgh PA airport is off limits to carry even in the Parking lots due to a County Regulation. These are the tough ones to find.
again any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. I will try to update this list daily but it does take time. Thank you and Stay Safe, Gary Slider

These are the states I have laws for. My Excel Spread Sheet format will not let me copy and paste it here in a readable form so I am just listing the states.

Someone pointed out that Federal Laws may apply. They could and just because a law says nothing about carrying there you can always be arrested. That is why I want the code for the law so people can look for themselves. That still is not enough. The laws are so screwed up (for lack of a better term) that they could be anywhere in the code of some states. Handgunlaw.us will also note that if any parking lot or terminal is posted do not carry there even if you believe the signs have no meaning. You can be arrested any time and get your day in court.

State Statute (Does the law allowed concealed carry)
"If the Parking Lot and/or Terminal is Posted Do not carry there!" This is what Handgunlaw.us came
up with. This is not the last word. Laws change and case law applies. Beware! It is up to you to know
the law. If the entry is blank we could find nothing in the laws for that state. Other Regs could exists!

Alabama
Alaska
Am. Samoa
Arizona Parking Lots and Terminal OK 13-3119
Arkansas Not Inside the Passenger Terminal and Sterile Area 5-73-306
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida Not inside the passenger terminal and sterile area 790.06 (12)
Georgia Parking Lot and Terminal off Limits 16-12-127
Guam
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois No carry allowed in Illinois
Indiana "Parking lots and Terminal OK IC 35-47-6-1.3
"
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky Parking Lots and Terminal OK 237.11
Louisiana Parking Lots and Terminal OK RS 40:1379.3 N (7)
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan Parking Lot and Terminal OK 259.80f
Minnesota
Mississippi Not inside the Terminal SEC. 45-9-101
Missouri Parking Lots and Terminal OK 571.107
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada Parking Lot OK Not In Terminal NRS 202.3673
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico Parking Lots and Terminal OK 29-19-8.
New York
North Carolina No Carry on any real property at Charlotte-Douglas Intl., Charlotte Ordinance Sec. 15-14
State Law § 14-409.40(f) Overrides Local by Allowing for the storage in vehicles. (I would Have it unloaded)
North Dakota Firearms not allowed in Public Buildings. ?? If Terminal Is publically owned then Off Limits? 62.1-02-05.
N. Marianas
Ohio OH AG States Airport terminals or commercial airplanes. (Parking Lots would be OK then)
Oklahoma If owned by any government entity Terminal Off Limits Parking Lot OK §21-1277.
Oregon Parking Lots and Terminal OK. Portland Airport Has Regulation & is Posted 166.370
Pennsylvania Pittsburgh PA Parking Lot and Terminal Off Limits Allegheny Co. Ordinance. § 70539.
Puerto Rico
Rhode Island
South Carolina If publically owned Not in Terminal. Parking Lot OK (Section 16-23-420(a))
South Dakota
Tennessee Building/Lots must be posted for law to apply § 39-17-1359.
Texas Buildings Must be Posted. Parking Lot OK 30.06(c)(3)(A)
Utah Parking Lots and Terminal OK 76-10-529
Vermont
Virgin Islands
Virginia Terminal Off Limits. Parking Lot OK § 18.2-287.01. Dulles Airport Toll Road is under the authority of
MWAA along with Rondald Reagan and Dulles Airports & are most likely Off Limits even parking lots.??
Washington Parking Lot & Terminal OK unless Posted 9.41.300
West Virginia Parking Lot and Terminal OK
Wisconsin No Carry allowed in Wisconsin
Wyoming
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Gentlemen/Ladies,

Handgunlaw.us is seeking information on carrying on Airport Property (Parking Lots). Inside the terminal up to the sterile area. By law can you or can you not carry in these areas in Airports. I would appreciate giving me the statute and I will look them up. I want to add this info to Handgunlaw.us so people can know the law and stay within the law. I am searching myself but any help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Some states will have no laws concerning this. That will be the hard part. The law could be outside the firearm laws of the state and not easily found. When there is no law then we believe it is OK. Pittsburgh PA airport is off limits to carry even in the Parking lots due to a County Regulation. These are the tough ones to find.
again any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. I will try to update this list daily but it does take time. Thank you and Stay Safe, Gary Slider

These are the states I have laws for. My Excel Spread Sheet format will not let me copy and paste it here in a readable form so I am just listing the states.

Someone pointed out that Federal Laws may apply. They could and just because a law says nothing about carrying there you can always be arrested. That is why I want the code for the law so people can look for themselves. That still is not enough. The laws are so screwed up (for lack of a better term) that they could be anywhere in the code of some states. Handgunlaw.us will also note that if any parking lot or terminal is posted do not carry there even if you believe the signs have no meaning. You can be arrested any time and get your day in court.

State Statute (Does the law allowed concealed carry)
"If the Parking Lot and/or Terminal is Posted Do not carry there!" This is what Handgunlaw.us came
up with. This is not the last word. Laws change and case law applies. Beware! It is up to you to know
the law. If the entry is blank we could find nothing in the laws for that state. Other Regs could exists!

Alabama
Alaska
Am. Samoa
Arizona Parking Lots and Terminal OK 13-3119
Arkansas Not Inside the Passenger Terminal and Sterile Area 5-73-306
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida Not inside the passenger terminal and sterile area 790.06 (12)
Georgia Parking Lot and Terminal off Limits 16-12-127
Guam
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois No carry allowed in Illinois
Indiana "Parking lots and Terminal OK IC 35-47-6-1.3
"
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky Parking Lots and Terminal OK 237.11
Louisiana Parking Lots and Terminal OK RS 40:1379.3 N (7)
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan Parking Lot and Terminal OK 259.80f
Minnesota
Mississippi Not inside the Terminal SEC. 45-9-101
Missouri Parking Lots and Terminal OK 571.107
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada Parking Lot OK Not In Terminal NRS 202.3673
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico Parking Lots and Terminal OK 29-19-8.
New York
North Carolina No Carry on any real property at Charlotte-Douglas Intl., Charlotte Ordinance Sec. 15-14
State Law § 14-409.40(f) Overrides Local by Allowing for the storage in vehicles. (I would Have it unloaded)
North Dakota Firearms not allowed in Public Buildings. ?? If Terminal Is publically owned then Off Limits? 62.1-02-05.
N. Marianas
Ohio OH AG States Airport terminals or commercial airplanes. (Parking Lots would be OK then)
Oklahoma If owned by any government entity Terminal Off Limits Parking Lot OK §21-1277.
Oregon Parking Lots and Terminal OK. Portland Airport Has Regulation & is Posted 166.370
Pennsylvania Pittsburgh PA Parking Lot and Terminal Off Limits Allegheny Co. Ordinance. § 70539.
Puerto Rico
Rhode Island
South Carolina If publically owned Not in Terminal. Parking Lot OK (Section 16-23-420(a))
South Dakota
Tennessee Building/Lots must be posted for law to apply § 39-17-1359.
Texas Buildings Must be Posted. Parking Lot OK 30.06(c)(3)(A)
Utah Parking Lots and Terminal OK 76-10-529
Vermont
Virgin Islands
Virginia Terminal Off Limits. Parking Lot OK § 18.2-287.01. Dulles Airport Toll Road is under the authority of
MWAA along with Rondald Reagan and Dulles Airports & are most likely Off Limits even parking lots.??
Washington Parking Lot & Terminal OK unless Posted 9.41.300
West Virginia Parking Lot and Terminal OK
Wisconsin No Carry allowed in Wisconsin
Wyoming
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:11 PM
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Ohio, no CCW in any airport building, secure or not.

CCW in parking lots and outside buildings not in secure area is OK.

ORC 2923.126 (9) & (10) and ORC 2923.1212 (5) apply.
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New Mexico - Carry OK up to the metal detectors unless posted with signage. Sorry, don't have the statute but I think the ruling is based on
a. sterile area is off limits by federal law and
b. Other airport areas are not mentioned in state law unless posted.
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There is some controversy regarding Georgia.

State law, as I understand it, CLEARLY allows the carrying of firearms in airport parking lots and non-secure areas of the terminal. The city of Atlanta defied state law and made an issue of arresting anyone found doing so.

I wish someone with first-hand knowledge would chime in.
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:00 PM
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North Carolina No Carry Allowed at Charlotte-Douglas Intl., Charlotte Ordinance Sec. 15-14
Is this only in the terminals, or on all of airport properties (i.e. parking lots, baggage claim)?
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Sec. 15-14. Possession of dangerous weapons.
(a) For the purposes of this section, the term "dangerous weapon" shall be defined as any object or device designed or intended to be used to inflict serious injury upon persons or property, including, but not limited to, firearms; knives of any kind or type having a blade in excess of 3 1/2 inches in length, except when used solely for preparation of food, instruction or maintenance; razors and razor blades, except when used solely for personal shaving; metallic knuckles; clubs, blackjacks and nightsticks; dynamite cartridges, bombs, grenades, mines and other powerful explosives; slingshots; shurikins; stun guns; and loaded canes.
(b) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, possess or have within his immediate access any dangerous weapon while in or upon any real property owned (except property owned by the city and leased to some other person or organization), leased, as lessee, or otherwise temporarily controlled by the city, whether such property is located within or outside the corporate city limits.
(c) This section shall not apply to the following persons while acting lawfully and within the scope of their duties and authority:
(1) Law enforcement officers.
(2) Officers and soldiers of the armed forces, militia and national guard.
(3) Any person who carries a dangerous weapon onto the premises of Charlotte/Douglas International Airport for the sole purpose of shipping the weapon by air in compliance with federal and state laws and regulations.
(4) Persons specifically authorized by state or federal law to carry firearms in the performance of their jobs.
(5) Any other person authorized, in writing, by the city manager or his designee to carry or possess dangerous weapons while in or upon specified public property. The city manager may promulgate guidelines for the issuance of permits for the possession of dangerous weapons on public property. The purpose of the guidelines shall be to ensure that permits are issued only for lawful purposes and in circumstances which present no threat to the safety and welfare of any person.
(d) This section shall not prohibit the lawful possession or carrying of dangerous weapons on the public streets and sidewalks, except as provided in section 15-18.
(Code 1985, § 15-23)

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Sec. 15-14. Possession of dangerous weapons.
(a) For the purposes of this section, the term "dangerous weapon" shall be defined as any object or device designed or intended to be used to inflict serious injury upon persons or property, including, but not limited to, firearms; knives of any kind or type having a blade in excess of 3 1/2 inches in length, except when used solely for preparation of food, instruction or maintenance; razors and razor blades, except when used solely for personal shaving; metallic knuckles; clubs, blackjacks and nightsticks; dynamite cartridges, bombs, grenades, mines and other powerful explosives; slingshots; shurikins; stun guns; and loaded canes.
(b) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, possess or have within his immediate access any dangerous weapon while in or upon any real property owned (except property owned by the city and leased to some other person or organization), leased, as lessee, or otherwise temporarily controlled by the city, whether such property is located within or outside the corporate city limits.
(c) This section shall not apply to the following persons while acting lawfully and within the scope of their duties and authority:
(1) Law enforcement officers.
(2) Officers and soldiers of the armed forces, militia and national guard.
(3) Any person who carries a dangerous weapon onto the premises of Charlotte/Douglas International Airport for the sole purpose of shipping the weapon by air in compliance with federal and state laws and regulations.
(4) Persons specifically authorized by state or federal law to carry firearms in the performance of their jobs.
(5) Any other person authorized, in writing, by the city manager or his designee to carry or possess dangerous weapons while in or upon specified public property. The city manager may promulgate guidelines for the issuance of permits for the possession of dangerous weapons on public property. The purpose of the guidelines shall be to ensure that permits are issued only for lawful purposes and in circumstances which present no threat to the safety and welfare of any person.
(d) This section shall not prohibit the lawful possession or carrying of dangerous weapons on the public streets and sidewalks, except as provided in section 15-18.
(Code 1985, § 15-23)

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Is it not true that North Carolina state law trumps local ordinances when it comes to firearm regulations?
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Wyatt Earp,

If the state has preemption then it SHOULD. But look at what the Mayor in Washington State is trying to do. The Washington State AG said he could not ban carry in parks and such and he says he will do it anyways. Philly for years was taking guns from Permit/License Holders even when they didn't break the law and was telling them to go to court to get their gun back. It took the PA Supreme Ct to tell them they could be sued if they didn't stop.

I had a PA Sheriff who told me he wouldn't even give me an application and when I pointed out PA law to him he laughed and said sue me. So they can do what they want and you will have your day in court.
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Wyatt Earp,

If the state has preemption then it SHOULD. But look at what the Mayor in Washington State is trying to do. The Washington State AG said he could not ban carry in parks and such and he says he will do it anyways. Philly for years was taking guns from Permit/License Holders even when they didn't break the law and was telling them to go to court to get their gun back. It took the PA Supreme Ct to tell them they could be sued if they didn't stop.

I had a PA Sheriff who told me he wouldn't even give me an application and when I pointed out PA law to him he laughed and said sue me. So they can do what they want and you will have your day in court.
If we don't force their hands one way or the other then we will forever be their serfs.
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Wyatt Earp, I would love to read about the court case that decided this in our favor. Just have to find someone to be the test case. That is the way many laws are decided. They get written and then after someone is arrested for it and convicted then they appeal and then a court throws it out. Sad thing is it takes years for that to happen.
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Don't know exactly what words to use, but OK rules are slightly different in practice than what you have. Offices owned and operated by govt for doing business with the public are off limits by OK SDA.
OKC and Tulsa airports are government owned, but NOT entirely govt operated, and the leasing private companies actually are the ones doing most business with the public. Presently, the entire terminal is not necessarily off limits, just the designated secure areas...watch for the signs. Of course, you can always just leave it safely stored in a vehicle in the parking lot.
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