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Old 02-22-2009, 09:23 AM
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Hello!

Anyone here have any experience in recent years getting a non-Resident CCW Permit for Nevada? My CCW permit is not honored in Nevada and open carry does not seem a good option. So, I am considering applying for a non-resident permit for Nevada, per Nevada state law. I have read Nevada laws and have some questions.

A few times a year we cross Nevada on Route 50, making various stops. We had a scary experience (that ended well) on one trip and would like a greater comfort factor should such happen again. We almost never go to Las Vegas, so, their restrictions would not affect us.

Questions:
1) What did you do about Nevada requirement for qualifying with your carry revolver? There is no such requirement for CCW training in my current state of residence. We did, of course, have to demonstrate proficiency and safe handling with various handguns, provided by instructor.
2) Ditto for requirement to pass a CCW class certified by Nevada. Did you have to go to Nevada to take a class? Any provision for cross-certification/qualification?

At some point I expect I will contact sheriff's office in one of areas we pass through each trip and initiate application through that office. Fallon, NV is most likely city.

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Old 02-22-2009, 09:53 AM
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If you are not a Nevada resident, it might be easier to get a Utah CCW permit. Many states including Nevada will honor this permit.

Since I am a Nevada resident, I had to get Nevada permit. You have to qualify with every semi-auto handgun you plan to have on the permit. For revolvers, qualify with one and you are good for all revolvers.
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Since the Nevada non-res is a pain-go to NV, class to obtain and RENEW, etc-- it is better by far to get the UT license.
One-time class, 65.25 to obtain, $10 ea 5 years to renew by mail.
http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/concealedfirearms.html
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Hello!

Anyone here have any experience in recent years getting a non-Resident CCW Permit for Nevada? My CCW permit is not honored in Nevada and open carry does not seem a good option. So, I am considering applying for a non-resident permit for Nevada, per Nevada state law. I have read Nevada laws and have some questions.

A few times a year we cross Nevada on Route 50, making various stops. We had a scary experience (that ended well) on one trip and would like a greater comfort factor should such happen again. We almost never go to Las Vegas, so, their restrictions would not affect us.

Questions:
1) What did you do about Nevada requirement for qualifying with your carry revolver? There is no such requirement for CCW training in my current state of residence. We did, of course, have to demonstrate proficiency and safe handling with various handguns, provided by instructor.
2) Ditto for requirement to pass a CCW class certified by Nevada. Did you have to go to Nevada to take a class? Any provision for cross-certification/qualification?

At some point I expect I will contact sheriff's office in one of areas we pass through each trip and initiate application through that office. Fallon, NV is most likely city.

Thanks,
Niklas
I live in Fallon. Am past president, currently a member of the Board and Chairman, Legislative Action Cmte: Stillwater Firearms ***'n

Our CCW FAQs page is: www.stillwaterfirearms.org/Pages/CCW_FAQ.php

In short:

If you qualify with a revolver, you may then CCW with ANY revolver; the term includes single and double derringers. We still have a requirement to qualify with autoloaders by make, model, and caliber - and we hope to change that in this current legislative session so the law will read "Any Revolver, Any Semi Auto, or Both".

Although NV law, NRS Ch 202(www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-202.html#NRS202Sec3653,) doesn't require you to take the class in NV, the Nevada Sheriffs & Chiefs ***'n (www.nvsca.com/ )DOES require it; unfortunately, our legislature gave the NSCA too much latitude in administering the program.

NSCA Training Standards document: www.stillwaterfirearms.org/phpnuke/modules.php?name=Dow...p=viewdownload&cid=2

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Hello!

Anyone here have any experience in recent years getting a non-Resident CCW Permit for Nevada? My CCW permit is not honored in Nevada and open carry does not seem a good option. So, I am considering applying for a non-resident permit for Nevada, per Nevada state law. I have read Nevada laws and have some questions.

A few times a year we cross Nevada on Route 50, making various stops. We had a scary experience (that ended well) on one trip and would like a greater comfort factor should such happen again. We almost never go to Las Vegas, so, their restrictions would not affect us.

Questions:
1) What did you do about Nevada requirement for qualifying with your carry revolver? There is no such requirement for CCW training in my current state of residence. We did, of course, have to demonstrate proficiency and safe handling with various handguns, provided by instructor.
2) Ditto for requirement to pass a CCW class certified by Nevada. Did you have to go to Nevada to take a class? Any provision for cross-certification/qualification?

At some point I expect I will contact sheriff's office in one of areas we pass through each trip and initiate application through that office. Fallon, NV is most likely city.

Thanks,
Niklas
The Florida permit is also recognized in NV. You may be able to obtain a Florida permit with training you have already recieved. They will even accept Missouri Hunter Education training as satisfactory firearms safety training for a non-resident permit, so if you have had similar training in your state, you may well qualify for the Florida non-resident permit.

Here is the link to get a FL CCW application: http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/apply.html
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Thank you Larry!! Sounds like it could be workable to attend a CCW class in Fallon, IF schedules permit during one of our trips through Nevada. Thanks additionally for the detailed information!!

NVBob and OKFCO5 -- thank you suggestion to get a Utah CCW permit might turn out to be best, or only workable, solution.

With all the changes happening to reciprocity of CCW permits between states, is Utah CCW likely to be accepted in Nevada for next 5+ years?

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cshoff, thanks! I will also look into a Florida non-resident CCW. One of my neighbors used to have a Flordia CCW but no longer because it is not accepted here.

Of course, yours, NVBob's and OKFCO5's suggestions logically indicate I look for additional states that issue non-resident CCW permits that are accepted in Nevada. Now, where is that National CCW permit when you need it?

Thanks,
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With all the changes happening to reciprocity of CCW permits between states, is Utah CCW likely to be accepted in Nevada for next 5+ years?
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I think it is likely. But it all depends (as far as Nevada goes) on whether or not Utah maintains standards substantially similar to Nevada's and if Utah maintains a 24 hour accessible database. (I don't know what Utah requires in order to honor another state's permits,)
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NRS 202.3689 Department to prepare list of states that meet certain requirements concerning permits; Department to provide copy of list to law enforcement agencies in this State; Department to make list available to public.

1. On or before July 1 of each year, the Department shall:

(a) Examine the requirements for the issuance of a permit to carry a concealed firearm in each state and determine whether the requirements of each state are substantially similar to or more stringent than the requirements set forth in NRS 202.3653 to 202.369, inclusive.

(b) Determine whether each state has an electronic database which identifies each individual who possesses a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm issued by that state and which a law enforcement officer in this State may access at all times through a national law enforcement telecommunications system.

(c) Prepare a list of states that meet the requirements of paragraphs (a) and (b). A state must not be included in the list unless the Nevada Sheriffs’ and Chiefs’ Association agrees with the Department that the state should be included in the list.

(d) Provide a copy of the list prepared pursuant to paragraph (c) to each law enforcement agency in this State.

2. The Department shall, upon request, make the list prepared pursuant to subsection 1 available to the public.

(Added to NRS by 2007, 3150)

NRS 202.369 Regulations. The Department may adopt such regulations as are necessary to carry out the provisions of NRS 202.3653 to 202.369, inclusive.

(Added to NRS by 1995, 2726; A 2005, 596)
Again, note in our law the latitude given the NSCA - too MUCH latitude.

Niklas, feel free to contact me (info on our website.)
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Thanks again Larry!

I will check your website when making travel plans through Nevada this year, just in case I can fit in CCW class in Fallon. We always take at least a 1/2 day to visit Stillwater NWR and watch the ibises go to roost.

Thanks for the additional information. Just a few months ago I was quite new to CCW laws, etc. Now, thanks to many folks here, I am feeling much more informed (more correctly, overwhelmed with info for different states). Reminds me of those years I worked in many states and filed tax forms in each.

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cshoff, thanks! I will also look into a Florida non-resident CCW. One of my neighbors used to have a Flordia CCW but no longer because it is not accepted here.

Of course, yours, NVBob's and OKFCO5's suggestions logically indicate I look for additional states that issue non-resident CCW permits that are accepted in Nevada. Now, where is that National CCW permit when you need it?

Thanks,
Niklas
You are welcome. Also note that, last I checked, the FL permit was good for 7 years.
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Sent e-mail request to Florida for CCW application, etc. Time line for getting non-resident Florida CCW appears to be only 2-3 months whereas for Utah it seems to be closer to 6 months, thanks to approximately tenfold increase in permit requests in recent years.

Here the local sheriff's office has put limit of 35 applicants per day on the two half days when open for new and renewal applications. Clearly, CCW permits have never been so popular.

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whereas for Utah it seems to be closer to 6 months
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Concealed Weapon Permit Application Processing
We are processing applications within 60 days as required by law.

http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/index.html
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Why not go to Front Sight and take their CCW class and get your free XDm when you complete the course.
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OKFCO5,

Thread on GunBoards, CCW section, is source of statement about time much longer than 60 days. Has Utah recently increased staffing for processing CCW applications? One could infer that from statement you quote -- why else would it be posted on that site?

Time to process in local sheriff's office here used to be 60 days, with 90 days required by law. In order to meet the 90 days, they have recently limited number of applicants per day. My permit took about 80 days.

The Shoottist,
Florida likely will accept certificate of training I used for permit in state here. Utah has list of approved instructors in various states. Some are local to me. Don't know if Front Sight is listed as accredited to Utah.

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About a year ago, UT was temporarily behind on applications and renewals, so they started posting the wait time on their web site. For the last few months, they have posted that wait time is normal.
In addition to being a UT instructor, I renewed my personal UT license, and it was returned in less than 10 days.

You keep referring to "here." Where is "here" for you?

Bt the way, I have both FL and UT licenses (since they first were available). One big difference is that the FL license costs twice as much as UT, and renewal in FL is just like the initial application: fingerprints, costs.
UT renewal is $10 and a new picture every five years. Class and fingerprints are one-time only for UT.
The class must be taken from a certified UT instructor: no generic classes qualify for UT.
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OKFCO5,

Thanks for clarifications. Thank you for point about costs -- that is important to me because there are currently only 1 or 2 states where I would use UT or FL CCW permit, and then only 1-3 times per year, maybe. I will look for local, UT qualified CCW instructor. I am in Denver, CO metro area and my Colorado CCW permit will be used nearly exclusively in CO, NM and AZ.

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After doing a bit of shopping, I will be applying for Florida CCW permit. While Florida permit costs more, total cost of Utah permit will be more (actual permit, cost of Utah approved training class, incidental costs), maybe nearly twice as much.

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Niklas... I'm in CO too and travel to Vegas a few times a year to see my daughter. I was considering the NV non-res permit until they allowed limited reciprocity last year. As you know, our CO permits are NOT accepted in NV.

However, I also have a UT non-res permit and, after considerable research, I realized it was just better to rely on my non-res UT permit and forget the NV non-res. Just too much hassle and expense simply to be limited in the guns I could or could not carry when I visit Vegas.

I'm not sure this situation is going to last forever, but I think an approved reciprocal permit is the way to go until things change.
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Actually, Nevada law changed in October 2013 and non-resident permits issued after that date allow Carry of ANY handgun.
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huntrfishr1,
This thread is 4 years old. I'm pretty sure none of the previous posters are concerned with this issue anymore.
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and if anyone interested IS reading, it should be noted that NV no longer honors UT or FL permits.
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