yep. Looks like my POS springfield ultra compact V10 is a high priced lil hooker. Sexy gun, most comfortable weapon i've ever held/shot. I want to like this gun so very very much and yet i can't get it to be reliable. Well with anything less than 1$ a pop Speer Gold Dots.
She'll find one problem of the other with wallyworld white box winchester, wolf, etc. Before my last (2) two, dos, more than one... trip to the gun shop, it was extracting good, but jamming on the feedramp in and the slide would beat the bullet into place. Now after some ramp work that problem is gone and after some extractor alignment?, the gun is 1 in 15 leaving a spend casing sitting in the barrel and the rack open. So back it will go one more time before I do the dirty deed and put the thing up for sale the way the previous owner did. I will at least be honest and advertise the gun as very ammo sensitive. so far it has been 100% with Speer and I guess I can live with that. But it's such a pleasure to shoot that I'd like to spend range time with it too.
Then there is the matter of the fixed sights being way the heck off. they'll have to be changed.
guy I was shooting with at the range today asked me about my jamming problem as he had a springfield 1911 full size and said that he had extractor problems with his new from the factory. Can't help but be frustrated with new guns. among the group of 5 of us today, 2 had brought brand new sig mosquitos with them. I told them I read about their ammo sensitivity too. One guy had done his homework and brought CCI magnums. The guns run fine with that more expensive stuff. the other had a value box of 500 remmingtons. He could get through 2 consecutive rounds with his gun. changed to the other ammo and ran like a clock. i pulled out my old old ruger (pre Mark1) and it ate everything on the table. Now why can a cheap ol gun like that with who knows how many rounds run perfectly, but these damn new fancy guns just plain not work?! I'm frustrated and $40 poorer just trying to prove that my springfield can be trusted. sincerely..a Sucker.

Ed,
You may want to take a look in the ammo section under "45ACP +P this months gun rag" Interesting observations about amputee 1911's.

Short 1911's are notoriously fussy. My Colt Officer's ACP was a nightmare when I got it. A new barrel and many hundreds of dollars later, it's a mechanical marvel. No good hand load or factory load fails to feed, and it's as accurate as many 5" guns. The work was performed by the late Joe Bonar at Novaks. Wish I had better news/advice, but the short .45's just require extra work sometimes. If you want to keep it, I'd suggest sending it to a really great smith and pay whatever it costs to make it run right. Now that mine works, it's one of my favorites.

Todd

That's a too bad.
Really is the norm though. I'm a fan of 5" 1911's. Maybe, maybe 4 inch platforms but that's as short as I'd dare.

And if it chokes like that on everything but the Golddots, do you really want to trust that it's even going to run on those when the chips (or your dominant hand) are down in a fight?



Emory

I've emailed Springfield..we'll see if they reply.
I also called and spoke with my local gunsmith who has workedon the gun. He urged me to try Federal hydrashock for carry and Federal's Independance for range time. He said those brands were what he used to test the gun and it ran 100% for him. He said he could continue to tweak the extractor to try and like the wally world or other, but asked me to please try the ammo he already knows works at the current adjustment. Told him i'd come over after work and grab a box and run them this weekend. if it works I'll leave well enough alone and sell off my winchester and other cheap stuff.
I guess my wonderment on this is that my smith CS40 which is also a shorty, eats anything. maybe cause it's a 40 or designed from the ground up to do what it does, rather than being a chopped down 1911..fair nuff.

Sorry Ed?,
I'd forgotten that it was YOU, that started the thread I referred you to, above?
DUH!
The smaller than "G" length guns I own that are as reliable as the G guns without a lot of ass busting, are usually the all steel Commanders. Some of the little one's can even tend to get more spooky for feed, as they lighten while emptying. My CDP Ultra, is even affected by how much oil is left in her? I've often thought that a carbon or S/S frame under the micro slides, would be the lightest one could expect the size to be able to run with. They're a lot like a high performance engine in a car sometimes, spectacular performance for their size, but at the expense of $'s and reliability often.

It takes a nervy guy to come to a primarily revolver forum and cry about how his off brand semi-auto works!

What we always used to tell people that buy autos is that they can be finicky about their ammo, and that they need to be broken in before you should draw any conclusions about how they work. The old rule of thumb was that by about 500 rounds of ball ammo, it should be settling down. But 1,000 rounds, if its problems aren't getting any better the gun needs work.

Over the last couple of decades most gun makers have managed to alter that forumla and some seem to work OK right out of the box. And some don't. There are some old technology guns that just always work great and never need aftermarket tuning. Those are usually kind of loose as a goose guns, not accurized. But even some highly respected guns seem to work great. I offer up my prized P210s as examples of that.

My guess is that as the fad of making more power into ever lighter and smaller packages continues, we'll see more undependability. Almost every gun can be made to work well with some work and maybe some specific ammo.

I have a Paraordnance P-10 and was also very disappointed at first, as the Al frame "warped" and they offered to replace it for free, or "upgrade" to a steel one for XX dollars more. As the Al frame had not worked with factory loads, I ponied up the XX $ for a steel frame. It hasn't warped but it did not like any factory FMJ's (I did not try any +P loads) so I tried Starfire by PMC and it has not jammed since. However due to the high cost of them (less than Speer's, I think) I don't shoot it a lot.. I admit being seduced by 10/11 rnds of 45 ACP fitting in my hand. It is accurate though.
So you might try PMC Starfire's and I will try Speer's when I get a few bucks and want to burn it up.

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Almost every gun can be made to work well with some work and maybe some specific ammo.

In this case I beg to differ with the esteemed Mr. Burg.

I'd get rid of it. It's a tough one to swallow boys, by short 1911's don't work.

Emory

Short 1911s dont work?

I beg to differ. I have two 3" Kimber 1911s. A CDP Ultra and an Ultra Elite, and they reliably eat anything I feed them.

Up until 3 weeks ago I had a Kimber Ultra RCP II. I never had any failures with it. But during it's 500 round maintenance and recoil spring replacement I noticed a crack in the slide under the extractor. Cost me $83.00 to ship it UPS to Kimber. Depending on the number of rounds through yours, maybe a detailed strip and recoil spring are in order. Have you considered Springfield's shop looking at it? My Kimber does not have sights but is very accurate out to 15 yards with 230g ammo.

My alloy framed, Commander sized, Kimber CDP worked fine. The gunshop manager where I bought it carried the one that was a size down, and his worked as well. I wouldn't want a gun that wouldn't even work with generic ball ammunition.

If you need a small(ish) automatic, you might want to look for a pre rail 4053 TSW. It'll use the same mags as the 4006 - either with or without an adapter to take up the space where these will stick out. Otherwise you can use a 9rd mag with a finger groove on it. They're about the same size as a 3913/14 and can actually be pocketed (I've done it) if you were something like 5.11s with large pockets. Otherwise, the pocket Glocks usually work well enough.

thanks all...I do have a smith CS40 which I like and it eats anything. It was my first large caliber carry gun. I just saw this springer sitting in the case...all purty and had been wanting a 1911 style gun and well..darn thing followed me home for $400...now I know why. I picked up some of the recommended ammo that the gun smith has been using with no issues.. will test tommorrow in my back yard range.
and yeah.gutsy to be posting and whining about a springfield on this, a smith forum...guys, this is the only gun forum I even visit these days so thanks for the participation in spite of the topic.
I will likely loose this gun and go back to my CS40 before i'm done, but i'd like to know that I've tried and that when I do sell it, that I can be honest about the thing and if it does work with certain ammo, be able to say so...have long standing ebay and some gunbroker action under my belt and want to keep a goodname.
heck if the thing likes federal range ammo and speer good stuff...then fine.. I've got a workable gun for daily carry. My SHTF stuff is all smith 40cal anyway so that's where i'd look for a gun that runs the local law enforcement caliber, eats anything imight pick up off the ground at the end of a heated exchange, etc. but that's another topic eh....ya'll have a great weekend..remember why the boomers are goin off...ET

Short 1911's can be really fussy. Then you port a short 1911 and all bets are off.

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a dollar a bullet is all she'll eat!

That's some expensive bullets. You can get buy the whole loaded cartridge for a lot less than that just about anywhere.

Smitty