Neat old gun.

Welcome to the forum, Red Nine. Hope you like it here and stick around. -Jim

I picked up an unaltered MkVI in .455 last year (or somewhere thereabouts). Here's what I did:

1) http://www.grafs.com/product/190780
2) http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,3862.html
3) http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,413.html

Buffalo arms has a lot of hard to find metallic cartridge components.

Haggis;

Midway lists the Remington bullet as .455" so it is apparently designed to work in the pre- war Colt 45s too. One reason I suggested it.

Here is the LINK to it.

Lee Modern Reloading first edition has reloading data data for various bullets in the 455 as does Ken Waters Pet Loads. Ken reports good results with the Remington bullet and includes quite a bit of reloading data for it.

Red Nine is certainly right about the low prices in the eighties. I got this MK. VI in the mid-80's for $40 (no typo!).



The cylinder is mismatched, and the pistol was converted earlier to .45 Colt, but it times up well and is very accurate with the right (read that as "light") loads. The guy I bought it from thought there was something wrong with it since he couldn't get it to close on a loaded moon clip.

I have considered geting an extra cylinder and having it converted to .45ACP with moon clips. The addition of some high-visability sights and an action job (it's a modified Schmidt-Galand action similar to the Colt Python) would make it a very good USPSA (IPSC) revolver. I think you could reload this faster with moons than a swing-out cylinder, and you could make 165 major power factor without pounding the gun. Perhaps I'll get around to it eventually.

Buck

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Originally posted by Rich W:
Haggis;

Midway lists the Remington bullet as .455" so it is apparently designed to work in the pre- war Colt 45s too. One reason I suggested it.

Here is the LINK to it.

Lee Modern Reloading first edition has reloading data data for various bullets in the 455 as does Ken Waters Pet Loads. Ken reports good results with the Remington bullet and includes quite a bit of reloading data for it.

Rich (and Sgt. N),

Thanks much for the links and info. I did not realize that this bullet was available. It sounds like it would work very well for this application.

Take care,

Buck

Digi-shots, check out auction #103483939 on GB, it looks like a nice little starter kit.

Also, "burnhambill" is a custom bullet caster on AuctionArms who occasionally has .455 hollow based bullets for sale. If he isn't currently offering them, e-mail him and ask. They work great in my MKVI, very accurate.

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Great photo and great toys digi-shots, thanks for sharing.

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Originally posted by Jim Shugart:
Welcome to the forum, Red Nine. Hope you like it here and stick around. -Jim

Thank's Jim! Perhaps if some currently loose plans come together then in the future I'll be able to enjoy it from your side of 'the pond'.

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The only source foe unloaded brass I found is Bertram Brass carried by Midway at $1.27 per cartridge case.

I ordered some Bertram Brass and it is junk. Don't buy it.

I believe that Hornady now makes .455 MkII brass, which I have heard is available from Graf.

Personally, I have ordered the converted .45 Colt cases sold by Buffalo Brass, and they are excellent.

By norm I usually don't give out advice as to how to destroy a handgun or shooter.

While Fiocchi advertises 850fps the load is far from it. At least what I have chronographed. Most was in the mid 600's.

Mike Venturino also got the same results in a recent article in American Handgunner. His actually were lower at 619 fps.

So to each his own. I'll keep shooting it in all my 455's and when one blows up I'll post pics.

Doesn't attaching the stock require a SBR tax stamp from the ATF?

"If a person has a pistol and an attachable shoulder stock, does this constitute possession of an NFA firearm?

Yes, unless the barrel of the pistol is at least 16 inches in length (and the overall length of the firearm with stock attached is at least 26 inches). However, certain stocked handguns, such as original semiautomatic Mauser "Broomhandles" and Lugers, have been removed from the purview of the NFA as collectors' items."

[26 U.S.C. 5845, 27 CFR 479.11]

The only Webley with a shoulder stock removed from the NFA list is the "Webley & Scott pistol, Mark 1, No. 2, .455 cal., with original detachable shoulder stock." So, as far as I can tell, the answer to your question is yes.

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Originally posted by BruceHMX:
By norm I usually don't give out advice as to how to destroy a handgun or shooter.

While Fiocchi advertises 850fps the load is far from it. At least what I have chronographed. Most was in the mid 600's.

Mike Venturino also got the same results in a recent article in American Handgunner. His actually were lower at 619 fps.

So to each his own. I'll keep shooting it in all my 455's and when one blows up I'll post pics.

That's interesting. I do remember that initially when Fiocchi introduced the .455, they were packed in boxes of 25. Those were the packets that left most of the U.K. 'classic' shooters unimpressed. However, later production runs were in boxes of 50. Are those the boxes your familair with and if so could they have toned them down a little? Just a thought.

If it helps, here is a picture showing the Fiocchi box of 50 rounds. This is an old picture I made to illustrate the difference between the Fiocchi .455 MkII and Dominion .455 MkI (or .455 Colt as it is often called here in North America). Obviously, both boxes had become quite shopworn by the time I bought them.

Note that Fiocchi used small pistol primers. By the way, Fiocchi case walls are extremely thin. If you want to reload your fired cases, find a different manufacturer.