Hey, Jeremy,
Lots of us don't have our mothers to talk to anymore. God bless her and you!!!!

Happy Saturday!

I never got anything directly from Fugate Arms. I was starting to feel left out.

However, I have received more unrelated spam in my inbox this week than I have in a very long time. Any chance the Fugates are selling our addresses to others?

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I wanted to wait until I’d read this whole thread before I contributed to it. OK, two days and 25 pages later and now I can finally write something. Yeah, I also received a message in one of my email accounts from Floodgate. At first, I was pretty confused – really couldn’t imagine where they would have gotten my email address from, but I do use the same screen name and email address on half a dozen gun boards, so it was quite a mystery.

When this thread cropped up you might say it was a mixed blessing. I was happy to learn where that outfit found out about my email address, and also that I wasn’t alone – but – I wasn’t happy to learn that so many of us (and Para) had been taken advantage of like this.

I also had mixed feelings about chiming in on the thread. At first I wondered if the Floodgate brothers were also somewhat of attention whores, and were loving all this attention – you know, “as long as they spell the name right” (that’s why I’m not) ... but then my second thought was about the BIGGER good -“the more communication the better” – and just look at how much communication we have had around this issue – 26 pages worth! Yeah baby! Also, the more we talk about it, the more we learn. We learn about The Floodgates’ business practices, their personalities (or lack thereof), and we possibly learn a little more about e-business, communications, law, etc.

So in summary, I’m glad this thread was started, is still going, and I’m glad I could contribute. I’m happy and proud to be a member of this fine forum.

Sunday Morning Wake Up Call!

If everone here would google them once or twice a day and click on the link that brings you back to the forum...wouldn't that put and keep this as the #1 on the search return list?

So one of the first Googles I got was "Fugates of Troublesome Creek"....the Blue Fugates...don't know whether this is the same group....enzyme deficiency of an Appalachian clan...medical oddity...

So it says below:

Is there really a race of blue people?

24-Jul-1998

Weekly IllustrationDear Cecil:

My husband swears that when he took anthropology they talked about a race of blue people. How did I miss this? Don't you dare say it was the Smurfs. --Lonijo, via AOL

Dear Lonijo:

OK, it wasn't the Smurfs. I was thinking maybe I could work up something involving the chronically depressed, fans of B.B. King, or Minnesotans in January, but those all pretty much suck too. So I may as well tell you the truth, namely that your husband is probably talking about the blue Fugates of Kentucky, the best warning against the dangers of inbreeding prior to the arrival of Prince Charles.

The blue Fugates weren't a race but rather an excessively tight-knit family living in the Appalachian Mountains. The patriarch of the clan was Martin Fugate, who settled along the banks of Troublesome Creek near Hazard, Kentucky, sometime after 1800. His wife, Mary, is thought to have been a carrier for a rare disease known as hereditary methemoglobinemia, which we'll call met-H.

Due to an enzyme deficiency, the blood of met-H victims has reduced oxygen-carrying capacity. Instead of being the usual bright red, arterial blood is chocolate brown and gives the skin of Caucasians a bluish cast. Hereditary met-H is caused by a recessive gene. If only one of your parents has this gene, you'll be normal, but if they both have it, there's a good chance you'll be blue.

None of Martin and Mary Fugate's descendants would have been blue had they not intermarried with a nearby clan, the Smiths. The Smiths were descendants of Richard Smith and Alicia Combs, one of whom apparently was also a met-H carrier. According to family historian Mary Fugate, the first known blue Fugate was born in 1832. Because of inbreeding among the isolated hill folk--the Fugate family tree is a tangled mess of cousins marrying cousins--blue people started popping up frequently thereafter. A half dozen or so were on the scene by the 1890s, and one case was reported as recently as 1975. They were quite a sight. One woman is said to have had lips the color of a bruise.

In 1960 a doctor named Madison Cawein heard about the blue Fugates and succeeded in tracking down several of them. Luckily some cases of hereditary met-H among native Alaskans had been written up in the medical literature not long before, so he was able to diagnose the problem fairly quickly. He also prescribed a simple, if temporary, cure--the chemical methylene blue, which replaced the missing enzyme in the blood. The results were dramatic. Within minutes after getting a dose, the blue Fugates became a normal pink for the first time in their lives.

Today, what with increased prosperity and mobility, the Fugates get around a lot more and the likelihood of further instances of blueness is thought to be low. Still, if you're in the neighborhood of Troublesome Creek and someone tells you he's feeling blue, try to get a look at him in a good light.

Interesting, but what is the relevance?

I think that he is trying to say that the Fugate tree has few branches.

Hey jeremy ... was your avatar pissing the other direction the other day, or am I just feeling lysdexic?

little Jeremy is still pissing the same direction

Ok, haven't posted here in awhile (got a new car so i've been over at the car forums....lol)
Anyway, spent the better part of an hour reading this thread. Whilst doing so, i found a connection between 2 of his "Lastbidder" auctions and what he has for sale on his site. One is a small profit (not worth it really)...the other, a sizable one.

1. Smith 28-2 purchased off GB for $485. Selling it for $575 on his site. $90 profit
2. Smith model 58, purchased off GB for $395, selling it for $900. $505 profit

Guess that's how he earns a living, scrounging like a rat. Nothing wrong with trying to turn a profit but his ethics are ass backwards. Guess it's kicking him in the ass now.

So, there I was, a few days ago, looking for a Winchester Model 12 Trap. Found a nice one on Gunbroker, pictures looked good, had a reasonable "Buy-Now" price, perhaps a little bit high, but, overall, reasonable enough. I logged in, prepared to purchase after reviewing the feedback of the seller and:

Whoops! It was a Fugate Arms gun. So, I bought a Browning BT-99 from someone else.

Bob

Way to go straightshooter1

I see that "lastbidder" is currently running up the price on a nice 27-2 4" in the box in a Gunbroker auction that ends in 1 day. The current bid is $850. I can't even imagine what he will try to sell it for if he wins it.