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not even an option for the Carolinas...law abiding citizens are forbidden to carry weapons into a bank..which is why I so seldom enter one..ATM all the way...and which is why, if I did have my gun on me while in a bank...it'd stay concealed and I'd let the robber take whatever the bank determined to give him..unless he started shooting and was heading my way. The banks made their choice in advance, and most people in there made their choice as well...yes, even sweet lil old ladies..they still vote each election. Whatever amount of money a single guy on foot might be able to leave the building with...sure ain't worth risking a shootout, an accidental innocent bystander getting shot, a real bomb going off, etc.. that's the bank's policy, and the bad guys know it.
 
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Was in Arizona over the weekend and saw a bank sign that said the bank was part of a program that banned "hats, hoodies, sunglasses, and guns" and admonished folks to remove them before entering the establishment.

Believe me, anyone entering the bank that day with a hoodie would be a bank robber...it was 112 degrees. (No exaggeration, actual temperature.

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With the steady increase in the number of permits I am hoping we see more of this sort of thing, and not just in banks. We would all be safer. Nothing makes the crime rate go down faster than an armed citizenry.
 
Posts: 274 | Location: Western U.S.A. | Registered: 19 February 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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In Nebraska, they'd be sharing a cell. CCW guy would probably loose his permit for awhile.


Why would he lose his permit for awhile? Isnt that a legit use of a concealed weapon/permit? Atleast in my ccw law book, you are able to stop someone commiting a felonious act, whether it be assault, murder, robbery, ect. if you are legal to carry, you are legal to stop someone commiting a felony. Maybe I am misinterrpreting that, please educate me if that is the case. Do not want to be in a sticky situation with my permit because I misunderstood the carry laws. The books I have are all Indiana Gun Law books, most revised and updated edition.
 
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Are banks still allowed to call them "tellers" and "customers"? I thought the new language (at least based on some retail stores) was "associates" and "guests"!


Good guy wins one for a change! Great!

About the associate thing. I never thought that the company I work for would ever get politically correct but then we were bought out by a European Co. not to long ago. My new business cards that I received for the job that I'm on now list me as an "Associate" instead of Project Manager or Construction Manager. Roll Eyes

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Because like hospitals/trauma centers/schools, banks are completely off limits for concealed carry. Our state can revoke your permit and put you on sort of a probation, while you show cause to have it back. And that just if you are caught in possession. Besides who wants to be in the drawn gun position when the police respond to the silent alarm the other teller set off. Considering the guy did not have a bomb, and had not got the money from the teller, you would both take the ride together. And you would have to explain you blatant breaking of the law. The law in my area thinks they have the sole duty to enforce it.
 
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ohhhh. I see. I have never seen a 'no firearm' sign at any local banks. Gov't buildings, schools, post office, ect. They are all off limits, but I havent seen signs elsewhere...and dont remember seeing that in the books. So I will do a more in depth check on that. Thanks.
 
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Because like hospitals/trauma centers/schools, banks are completely off limits for concealed carry. ...


We're not in Nebraska. State laws are all different (some are crazy). Banks are not pistol free zones in Michigan and the local Comerica branches have nothing posted that would prohibit customers from carrying. Before "shall issue" became the law in Michigan, a common permit classification for those that qualified was "business, bank, target and home".


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I think if my wife and kids were in that bank, I'd rather the guy left with his fistful of one-dollar bills than to have someone pull a gun on him and confront him inside the bank.

I know that's not P/C to say on a gun board, but there it is.....Did the teller who told the gun-carrying customer tell him "There's a guy who says he has a bomb robbing the bang" or did she just say "We're being robbed?" It's one thing to assume the guy saying his has a bomb is bluffing. It's another to assume he doesn't have a gun when all you know is "we're being held-up." All concerned are lucky there wasn't a back-up armed robber waiting in line covering the first guy.


If my wife and kids (grandkids) were in there, my wife would probably cap the guy in the head-while shoving me out of the way. Talk about your non-PC.
 
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Boomstick out in left field

Not facing the plate but watching the fans and vendors. Batter hits flyball, just misses his head.



Each has his right to wish what he wants. For a reality check, not one person in a thousand has the ability to build a "bomb". Even fewer have the ability to make one that goes bang when intended. Its summer. People don't wear a lot of padding. One quick check will reveal pretty much information. When a person has a bomb strapped to his body, if it goes off, the only sure casualty is the wearer. Depending on the persons apparent nationality, dress, and attire, it could easily be a safe bet to call their bluff.

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Where in the article did it say that the second teller knew the guy said he had a bomb in his note as opposed to her just noting the hold-up alarm had been tripped, or just knew that a hold-up was in progress? And where in the article did it say that the armed citizen knew it was a "bomb threat" holdup as opposed to an armed man with maybe a back-up? Maybe waiting until the guy left the bank might have been a better idea? Less hostages maybe if things went south?

I'll leave out the sports metaphors and stick to the literal. Man announces a hold-up, doesn't produce a gun, second teller advises a customer they're being held up, customer pulls a gun, back-up man shoots armed citizen and maybe a few others while taking cover, cops pull up while hold-up is still in progress due to the delayed escape caused by the shooting and now you have a nice little hostage situation.

Of course none of us were there, so we don't know at this point whether the armed citizen knew at the point he decided to take action.....

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WILD: Customer Pulls Gun on Bank Robber

Last Update: 10:50 am

(WXYZ) -- An attempted bank robbery in Canton played out like a scene from a movie Monday when a man who claimed to have a bomb was stopped by a customer armed with a pistol.

The drama started just after the Comerica bank on Michigan Ave. opened around 9 a.m. Police say a 54-year-old man from Washtenaw County walked up to a teller and handed her a note claiming he had a bomb strapped to his body.

The fast-thinking teller hit the silent alarm while filling a bag with $1 bills -- until the man demanded "bands of 50s and 100s." Another teller saw the situation unfolding and alerted a long-time customer who took matters into his own hands.

According to police, the customer pulled out a .9 mm handgun (for which he had a CCW permit), racked a bullet in the chamber, pointed it at the man and announced, "You are not robbing this bank!"


The startled Washtenaw County man countered with, "but, I have a bomb" -- but the customer wasn't impressed. "I don't care. You are not robbing this bank!" was the reply from the other side of the gun. He then forced the would-be robber into chair and held him at gunpoint until police arrived.


Police tell WXYZ.com there were no injuries, no issues with the customer's CCW permit, and no bomb found at the scene. The suspect is expected to be arraigned on Wednesday.

 
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I think if my wife and kids were in that bank, I'd rather the guy left with his fistful of one-dollar bills than to have someone pull a gun on him and confront him inside the bank.

I know that's not P/C to say on a gun board, but there it is.....Did the teller who told the gun-carrying customer tell him "There's a guy who says he has a bomb robbing the bang" or did she just say "We're being robbed?" It's one thing to assume the guy saying his has a bomb is bluffing. It's another to assume he doesn't have a gun when all you know is "we're being held-up." All concerned are lucky there wasn't a back-up armed robber waiting in line covering the first guy.

When is the last time a non terrorist-Jihadist bankrobber was ever stupid enough to blow himself up, when the money was not handed over to him/her?


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According to police, the customer pulled out a .9 mm handgun

What bullet weight do you suppose is standard on 9/10 of a millimeter? LOL. Low caliber journalism.
 
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S&WChad, I believe I was responding to a question about my previous remarks beginning with "in Nebraska", and the questioner was from Indiana. And still would you want to be holding the gun when the police storm the front entrance?
 
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If I were going to rob a bank, the last thing I would take is a bomb. Anyone who says they have a bomb is full of crap. Good job on the CCW guys part. I'm sick of this stuff and wish he would have shot the jackass. Boomstick raises a good point about the robber having a back up, but I'd play the odds (while keeping my back to a counter or wall) that anyone that stupid is probably alone.


I have to agree with flopshank,

Pull on idiot #1 and keep your back against the wall and if possible a table between you and the door. As soon as the good guys have control the teller is on the phone with 911 and 20 minutes later cops arrive to a bunch of bored customers.


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"When is the last time a non terrorist-Jihadist bankrobber was ever stupid enough to blow himself up, when the money was not handed over to him/her?"

It was a couple of years ago when a pizza deliveryman held up a bank with a bomb strapped to his neck. It went off out in the parking lot.
 
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