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Time will tell if the cpl holder still has a cpl. I know that I would have let the guy do his thing not my place to intervene that's what leo's do. The situation could have easily went south if the cpl holder killed the robber I bet it would be a completely different ball game. One down & one in jail. I would not doubt that you may see no ccw signs in the bank.
 
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It was a couple of years ago when a pizza deliveryman held up a bank with a bomb strapped to his neck. It went off out in the parking lot.


I'm not seeing a downside to that.

edit: I'm sorry, I hit post now too fast. I sure hope the bank paid for the customers car wash to get the crap off their cars!


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"When is the last time a non terrorist-Jihadist bankrobber was ever stupid enough to blow himself up, when the money was not handed over to him/her?"

It was a couple of years ago when a pizza deliveryman held up a bank with a bomb strapped to his neck. It went off out in the parking lot.


I think there is still considerable doubt that the pizza guy was a willing participant in the bomb plot, and I think it is pretty much agreed by everybody that he did not detonate that bomb himself.

If I were in that situation in the bank I'd probably take my chances that the guy has a bomb, and just shoot him. I work too hard for my money to let some worthless piece of human debris get their hands on it.
 
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She was serving??? What?


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When is the last time a non terrorist-Jihadist bankrobber was ever stupid enough to blow himself up, when the money was not handed over to him/her?


Who said anying about terrorist? Lots of non-terrorist bluff with bombs at banks when they hear about tellers handing over money with nothing but a bomb threat.

My point was....Did the guy who pulled his 9mm with the empty chamber know the guy threatened with a bomb OR, did he ONLY know that there was a hold-up in progress, in which case, as far as he knew, the guy could have been armed with anything, including a gun, or nothing at all, as was the case? Not to mention the chance of him having back-up in line somewhere. No big deal, I guess, if it was just those two in the bank on the customer side of the counter. But if the guy was armed with a gun, or had back-up with him, and there were other customers, yeah, it is a big deal then when you pull your $hit to intervene in a hold-up in progress inside a big room with other people in it.
 
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The TV news finally had a piece about it tonight. They called him a hero. He’s a local businessman who was previously in the Lebanese army. Showed his carry gun, a Beretta 92 in a nylon IWB under his shirt. The responding police thanked him after checking his CPL and let him leave with his gun. The president of Comerica phoned him this morning, thanked him and offered a reward.

He even resisted the temptation to empty the magazine into the air when it was over! Razzer

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According to police, the customer pulled out a .9 mm handgun

What bullet weight do you suppose is standard on 9/10 of a millimeter? LOL. Low caliber journalism.


Thats teeny weeny! Of course I went to a range briefing once where they talked about 4.2 milimeter mortars-now that's pretty teeny too. Very hard to set the fuse.
 
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He even resisted the temptation to empty the magazine into the air when it was over!


Heh, heh, heh.....pretty good Sip Jr......
 
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When is the last time a non terrorist-Jihadist bankrobber was ever stupid enough to blow himself up, when the money was not handed over to him/her?


Who said anying about terrorist? Lots of non-terrorist bluff with bombs at banks when they hear about tellers handing over money with nothing but a bomb threat.

My point was....Did the guy who pulled his 9mm with the empty chamber know the guy threatened with a bomb OR, did he ONLY know that there was a hold-up in progress, in which case, as far as he knew, the guy could have been armed with anything, including a gun, or nothing at all, as was the case? Not to mention the chance of him having back-up in line somewhere. No big deal, I guess, if it was just those two in the bank on the customer side of the counter. But if the guy was armed with a gun, or had back-up with him, and there were other customers, yeah, it is a big deal then when you pull your $hit to intervene in a hold-up in progress inside a big room with other people in it.

Well, my point is that the probability that a bankrobber actually carries out his threat of blowing himself up, is very small. In the case of a terrorist-Jihadist-suicidebomber, the probability is almost 1. The guy who pulled his gun with an empty chamber had a lot of guts, in my view. Good poker player, I'd say.


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Hey, hey, hey!!

The guy's a hero. He sized up the situation, made a bold move, pulled it off, captured the bad guy, and no one got hurt.

In case you have forgotten, that IS the definition of a hero.

Had things gone south, he could have been a goat. But the didn't, and he is a hero, not a goat. Period...


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Hey, hey, hey!!

The guy's a hero. He sized up the situation, made a bold move, pulled it off, captured the bad guy, and no one got hurt.

In case you have forgotten, that IS the definition of a hero.

Had things gone south, he could have been a goat. But the didn't, and he is a hero, not a goat. Period...


I have no problem with the "all's well that ends well" method of analysis, however, you might want to think about the things I mentioned when deciding what you'd do in a similar situation.

It appears from the video (to me anyway) that the only thing the guy knew at the time he pulled his gun was that "we may be getting robbed". Yes, you rarely hear of a real "bank bomber" as opposed to unarmed bank robbers or those armed with guns, but this guy did not know what he was facing other than "we may be getting robbed" when he pulled his gun on the guy. Something to think about.

Then again, the bank robber didn't exactly look like the picture of confidence either. Not one to do a take-over type robbery. More of the bluffy kind..
 
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Originally posted by boomstick: I have no problem with the "all's well that ends well" method of analysis...


I wasn't making an analysis, I was lauding a hero. Sheeh... Roll Eyes


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And maybe the Ex-Lebanese Soldier has seen enough $hit go down that he knew exactly what he was doing. Personally I don't and it would probably be foolish for me to confront a bank robber, but this guy may have been very comfortable doing what he did. Good for him. I'm always amazed at how some people step up and wonder if I could/would if the situation arose. I guess for now I just have to be thankful that I've never had to.
 
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Originally posted by boomstick:... however, you might want to think about the things I mentioned when deciding what you'd do in a similar situation..


And another thing, we are not talking about me, we are talking about a f'ing hero...


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FWIW, FOX ran this story on the evening news. They interviewed the CCW guy who stopped the bank robbery and called him a hero...


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