K-32 Model 16 in 327 federal would let you shoot the 32 Fed, 32 H&R,32 long & short in the same gun. Put it with a 5" tube and a decent set of sights and it would be a great small game gun. Gianni

Not with the Model 16 as we know it:

Supica/Nahas "Model 16 nominal cylinder length 1.56" "

You guys better check your data before you whish for more than whats possible.

You need a longer cylinder than that, or else the slightest bullet upset (pulled out of cylinder in recoil) in .327 Federal would immediately bind the cylinder.

Pro'lly why S&W spokesperson indicated to Scott they had no immediate plans, since they need to redesign the gun slightly, IF Scott was able to find someone at S&W phone that has any idea....

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Originally posted by ErikP:
You guys better check your data before you whish for more than whats possible.

wish (wĭsh) n.

1. A desire, longing, or strong inclination for a specific thing.
2. An expression of a desire, longing, or strong inclination; a petition.
3. Something desired or longed for.

Since when did a wish have to be possible?

S&W will see to that, in good course.

First they need to make the J-frame a little longer, or at least the cylinder window a little bigger, and put in an extra long cylinder.

That will be fine, I could order one (with the same barrel...) and have the cylinder cut for .30 US.....

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Originally posted by ErikP:
S&W will see to that, in good course.

First they need to make the J-frame a little longer, or at least the cylinder window a little bigger, and put in an extra long cylinder.

The only problem, is that frame size is the essence of the "J" frame's raison d' etre. Were it "stretched out" it would begin to take on "K" frame dimensions.

The "K" frame is an ideal arrangement for the .327 Federal Magnum cartridge. The 5" barrel will provide for an especially stable shooting platform for "varmint" shooting and pest control. Longer barrels will give the cartridge a "gilt edge" of accuracy, primarily due to it's high operating pressures.

The.327 Federal Magnum certainly holds a great deal of promise, when it comes to any small-bore application one can possibly concoct. Flat-shooting, high energy, excellent accuracy along with the flexibility to use the ammunition of the entire .32 caliber revolver line! This is why I think that this is a cartridge that will not only see a lot of use, but will continued to be used well into the 21st century.

Scott

Well the future, Scott....

That is a bit premature, ain't it?

As it stands they haven't sold one of these, have they?

Perhaps, but I believe that the premise for this logic is sound.

Scott

Could be.

But monday morning quarterbacking is much better!

I was reading Ruger's 2008 annual and it stated that the maximum psi for the .327 Federal Magnum is 45,000!

Scott

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Originally posted by gunfan:
I was reading Ruger's 2008 annual and it stated that the maximum psi for the .327 Federal Magnum is 45,000!

Scott

Get ready for top strap gas cutting.....

It's amazing Ruger already had to pull one handgun from the market because of excessive gas cutting, the .357 Maximum Super Blackhawk.

Something tells me they are above being able to learn from experience, how this are gonna work out in a feelble Charter Arms revolver is another matter entirely....

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Originally posted by ErikP:

Get ready for top strap gas cutting.....

It's amazing Ruger already had to pull one handgun from the market because of excessive gas cutting, the .357 Maximum Super Blackhawk.

Something tells me they are above being able to learn from experience, how this are gonna work out in a feelble Charter Arms revolver is another matter entirely....

The sky is falling, the sky is falling! - Chicken Little

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1) The .327 Federal case is the same length as the .38 Special. Whoever said the cylinder is too short obviously doesn't know the K Frame has been chambered for .38 Special for about 109 years. COL for the .327 is shorter than .38 Spl.

1b) The J Frame has been chambered for .38 Special from day one, that was the reason for the J in the first place. See COL comment above.

2) The K-frame in .32 has heavier cylinder walls than a .357 J Frame.

3) The listed MAP is the same as the original .357 Magnum, 45,000 PSI according to pre strain guage measurement methods.

4) .357's don't have a gas-cutting problem, why would the .327?

5) .327 Model 16 is one of the best ideas to come down the road in years.

6) Who gives a rat's ass how a Charter would handle the cartridge?

7) No re-design of the Model 16 needs be done except make the charge holes 1/8 deeper than the -4 in .32 H&R. Ditto for the J Magnum frame in a re-intro 631.

It's interesting that ErikP, in the I Frame 327 thread, thinks that sounds like a good idea, but in this thread thinks the K and J frames are too short! Hello Erik, the only difference between the I and J Frames is the J is LONGER and has a coil mainspring.

If anyone comes out with this caliber in a long(ish) barrel revolver I'll buy it. I would hope for S&W to do it in this model, but I'd buy a single six if Ruger were first to come out with it.

This caliber looks like it will be a good varminting revolver for us reloaders. Though I'm not interested in this caliber for self defense, I can see the argument for an extra shot (compared to a j frame 38) in a small package.

Unfortunately, I don't see S&W having it's "finger" on the "pulse" of the civilian market. Their collective corporate "heads" are too firmly planted "where the sun refuses to shine."

That's all there is to it.

Scott

Back to the original thought: I would really like to see a Model 16 in .327 federal with a 5" barrel! You're right, it would make a GREAT small game revolver!

Ron