First, let me premise this with the fact that auto-loading rifles are not legal for hunting in PA. So, what I am conceiving of here is a revolver lover’s answer to that dilemma. I'd like an X-frame 460 S&W in the form of the old Cattleman's carbine. It would be a revolving rifle. It would have a 16 inch barrel, to make it legal but otherwise would look like the current custom shop Model 460XVR Hunter. The only other necessary addition would be a spring/stainless steel flange attached to the yoke that would cover the left side of the cylinder gap in such a manor as to vent gasses up and away from the shooters left arm. It would be nice to have the Picatinny rails extended a bit on both the top and the bottom of the barrel base- for optional scope/sights on top and hand holds on the bottom. I’m not sure exactly which style and format of shoulder stock would work best for manipulating the DA trigger.

It would be the quickest handling and fastest shooting brush gun you could legally hunt with in PA. And it would be cool!

Here's a thought - would it be cheaper to just register the 12 inch barrelled short rifle with the BATF or get the 16 inch barrel put made and put on by a smith? My gut is that the registration would be cheaper!

Marlin's Guide gun in 45/70 would beat it.

Remington 760 carbine in 30-06 or same in .35 Remington. Don't think Rem. ever made the .35 in
a carbine, though. Hard to beat a 760 in the woods and thickets. I've had one for 35 years and
it's never failed to function and is relatively accurate .

I brought up the idea of a revolving carbine in X Frame with a lever that rotates the cylinder and cocks the rifle on this site when I first joined in the wish list.
Have one version in an oiled wood, blue or charcoal or high polish Stainless, Octagon or round barrel full length "Buffalo gun" package 460 or 500 with 24" long full octagon or half round barrel, or light carbine package with 18" or 20" barrel, peweter S&W logo forearm cap and have Custom shop upgrade packages for engraving, plating, laser etching, fancy woods, sight systems like Verneer and globe options, scope or scout scope capability.
Also have an "Outfitter's tactical carbine with synthetic stock collapsible and a pictinny rail for sighting & optics mounting options
Make this the Smith & Wesson revolving rifles & carbine that America has long awaited.
Imagine a charcoal finished and oiled wood stock 24" Octagon barrel with tang sight and spirit level front globe launching paper patched cast lead 45 cal bullets the the far side of the earth with a 460 or having a big game backup & survival carbine all black and tricked for light carry, recoil control and sights, light and laser in 500.

sorry, perfessr & rchall. I have a guide gun and a 7600 (not a carbine) and although I love them both and have killed deer with both of them - I will be able to stroke the trigger of this much faster than you can lever or pump!

I stand by my wish!

// Pete

Better watch thet left forarm with that big of a revolver, You might just set it on fire!
And I agree with the 45-70 carbine, I want one! With 400+ grains you'll knock the deer over!
Peter.

Remington made the model 14 carbine in .35 Rem. I've got one and it's the ultimate brush gun!

(actually the barrel is 18 1/2 inches)

My brush guns are both dandies . . .

A 6" S&W Model 29-5, topped with a Holosight . . . and shooting 300 grain flat-nose hard cast bullets,

and a Ruger Deerfield Carbine, also in .44 magnum, topped with a Millet Red Dot sight.

I mainly handgun hunt the deep Georgia woods anyway with my 6" M29-5.


And . . . I can stroke that M29 faster, and with hunting accuracy, that I could with any hotter round. I've put down three deer in mere seconds TWICE now . . . with my M29-5/Holosight combination.

Maybe our deer are a tad smaller than yours though, but down here in Georgia I could not be happier with my pair of brush guns.

Well . . . make that three brush guns! My 20" barrelled 1969 Ithaca DSPS 12 gauge slug gun dropped two large bucks in mere seconds . . . in a Georgia hardwoods bottom, in 2000.

--The first at 75 yards, and the second at a dead run . . . coming straight at me.

When I nailed the second one, he bounced off the tree my climber was in, and died at my feet with a hole in his rib cage the size of a grapefruit.


Still though, I wish you well in your quest for your dream brush gun . . . and glad it is a Smith!

T.