If the guns become reasonably popular then other manufacturers will start loading it, hopefully at more reasonable prices per shot, and Starline will start making cases available for reloading. All a matter of supply and demand.

No one but Federal ever offered factory ammo for the 32 Magnum so far as I know but Starline does have cases and Sierra, Hornady and Speer all offer reasonably priced bullets for reloading as do many of the cast bullet suppliers.

The problam with any "pocket rev." chamberd for the .327mag. is it must be at least "J frame" size.(because of cyl. length)

There is no way S&W (or any other mfg.) is going to build a "I frame" chamberd for .32 long. Or .32 H&R mag now that the .327 has arrived. (.32 H&R mag might not fit in a "I frame" anyway, I'm not sure)

So, how about a .32ACP w/little moon clips? Now that could be made the size of the old .32S&W hammerless. Or better yet the Iver Johnson "Bicycle model"

My idea here is a very small "pocket rev." I'm aware that the .32ACP is not a great "stopper" however any gun is better then no gun. And a "J frame" in the pocket is just too large for some types of dress.

I'm aware of NAA, Seecamp,(I have one) and other very small semi-autos. The problam with them is, when you make a semi-auto tiny, you sacrifice some reliability. My Seecamp has "gaged" only twice in (probably)400-500 rds. But I'd still feel safer with a little rev.

An "I" frame is not practical for any other revolver cartridge than either a 5-shot .38 S&W or .32 S&W Long. These aren't going to return to the market. The idea of either a 5-shot .380, or .6-shot .32 ACP using "moon clips" are just about the best that anyone could do with this frame size.

An "improved" I frame will house a .38 Special (5-shot) cylinder. I have seen an example of one "in the flesh." Perhaps a 9X18 revolver with a 3" barrel would be a nice "I" frame revolver.

Scott

I called S&W a couple of days ago, and they said that the company is looking hard at the .327 Fed. Mag. cartridge. Perhaps we may yet have our wishes fulfilled!

Scott

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Originally posted by therevjay:
The problam with any "pocket rev." chamberd for the .327mag. is it must be at least "J frame" size.(because of cyl. length)

There is no way S&W (or any other mfg.) is going to build a "I frame" chamberd for .32 long. Or .32 H&R mag now that the .327 has arrived. (.32 H&R mag might not fit in a "I frame" anyway, I'm not sure)

So, how about a .32ACP w/little moon clips? Now that could be made the size of the old .32S&W hammerless. Or better yet the Iver Johnson "Bicycle model"

My idea here is a very small "pocket rev." I'm aware that the .32ACP is not a great "stopper" however any gun is better then no gun. And a "J frame" in the pocket is just too large for some types of dress.

I love my little "Undercoverette" (in .32 H&R Magnum.) Their 2 1/2" barreled, fixed sight, "Patriot" (in .327 Federal Magnum) is built on their "Bulldog" frame. While a bit bigger than the "J" frame revolvers, it's still small enough to conceal well. The 4", adjustable sight version will make for a well-received "trail gun." I wouldn't mind carrying the 4" version in my shoulder holster. It should have more than enough "punch" to get the job done, while accommodating the lighter .32 caliber loadings for the more "utilitarian" gun tasks on the trail.

Scott

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I note that every major double action revolver manufacturer selling in the US market EXCEPT S&W now has at least one 327 Magnum announced or available. This is Ruger, Taurus and Charter Arms.

Gunfan:

Just how much smaller than a "J frame" is the Charter "undercoverette .32 H&R"?

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Gunfan:

Just how much smaller than a "J frame" is the Charter "undercoverette .32 H&R"?

Both the Charter Arms Undercover and Undercoverette are the same size, approximately 5% smaller than the Smith & Wesson 2" barreled, "J" frame revolvers.

Their "Bulldog" (read: .327 Fed. Mag., .357 Mag & .44 S&W Special frames) are about the size of a S&W "K" frame revolver, (give or take a little.)

Scott

Thanks

I failed to mention that the smaller-frame Charters are also the platform for their "Pathfinder" revolvers in .22 lr and .22 WMRF.

If Nick (Charter's CEO) is smart, He'll bring out the Patriot with a 6" barrel. I would recommend that everyone call Charter Arms at (203) 922-1652, and suggest that he produce the revolver in the longer barrel length as a great "home and garden" revolver. It would also make a fantastic "pot gun" for toting around the woods, in search of the occasional cottontail rabbit for the evening meal.

Scott

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The cylinder in my old "I" frame 32 S&W long is 1.360" in length, and it isn't recessed so the 32 H&R Mag at 1.35" SAAMI OAL will fit easily. It would be nice if S&W would bring back the old "I" frame complete with leaf main spring, and in both shrouded hammer and hammerless designs. But I doubt that it will happen as after 50 years and 3 ownership changes I don't think they have the forging dies to make the standard I frame design and never made a shrouded hammer or hammerless "I" frame gun. These were first made in the "Improved I" frame guns with the longer cylinder for the 38 Special cartridge and a coil main spring.

I believe that the "I" frame will not tolerate the intensity of the .32 H&R Magnum, let alone the .327 Federal Magnum. The problem with the "I" frame, is lack of metal (and tempering) to contain a continuous diet of "hot" .32 S&W Long. I had read (on this Forum) that there had been a number of examples of where the forcing cone of the older "I" frame had split. This leaves us with the "J" frame revolver. A tough, lightweight "J" frame revolver will work for the .327 Federal Magnum cartridge (in 3, 4 and 5" barrels.) I would also like to see the revival for the Model 16 in .327 Federal Magnum in a 4, 6 and 8 3/8" barrels.

These will prove to be a wonderful source of great revenue to S&W.

Scott