RATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Such is Life. Another deal like that may come along before I die.

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Originally posted by cbpotel:
...but the 10mm will stay and I will figure it out because I like the 10mm.

The CZ Clone forum has had several threads on the ejector problems of the 10 mm Witness, the usual cure was the modification of the ejector. I'll figure a way to get that done.

Here's your cure. Find a competent gunsmith that will literally pare, or file, back the overall projection of your ejector. This is a rather inexpensive and quick solution to your problem.

Scott

Navy I never shot 10mm so I looked up some of loading info and that's some good round.Now I see why you guy's like it so much But what about the accuracy I am a bullseye shooter and I don't shoot hot stuff It's to hard on me and the gun And never get's me the accuracy I want As for me A good trigger sights and the right load as for springs there is no magic formula Finding what works for you and the gun is the fun part

The 10mm & 38 Super really shine for accuracy with realitive light loads because they still have enough speed to be rid of so much drop. Often I refer to 45ACP to like lobbing a big rock. I can bench rest and keep them in a 3" red circle with my old eyes, At 21 feet standing using two hand stance I can half the group size and have several connecting holes.

My problem with anymore is I can't focuse on sight and target beyond about 25' w/o using scope or red dot. I am even having some problems now days with scopes and cross hair and target focus at same time. It's hell getting old, but I guess it beats the other option.

My Tanfoglio has Bomar target sights and I have been thinking about doing a red dot or halo type of sight recently to help me hit the paper for a few more years.

Iris for Glasses, Merit Optical Attachment, 9778, Optics Navy This is what you need you will think your eyes were 20 years old again I been using one for 3 years I use a cheap pair of reading glass's from wal mart 125+ 150+and I can shoot 2" groups off hand at 15yds And I am 70 on good days that is no BS.They have a site on the net look them up

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Originally posted by warrenag:
Iris for Glasses, Merit Optical Attachment, 9778, Optics Navy This is what you need you will think your eyes were 20 years old again I been using one for 3 years I use a cheap pair of reading glass's from wal mart 125+ 150+and I can shoot 2" groups off hand at 15yds And I am 70 on good days that is no BS.They have a site on the net look them up

Hummm, looks like I will have to give these a try.

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Originally posted by Old Navy:

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Originally posted by warrenag:
Iris for Glasses, Merit Optical Attachment, 9778, Optics Navy This is what you need you will think your eyes were 20 years old again I been using one for 3 years I use a cheap pair of reading glass's from wal mart 125+ 150+and I can shoot 2" groups off hand at 15yds And I am 70 on good days that is no BS.They have a site on the net look them up

Hummm, looks like I will have to give these a try.

I have found an easier answer to the problem of very fuzzy sights. I've been wearing glasses for 45 years, and have many older pairs of glasses floating around the house. I found a pair of old safety glasses that are atleast 35 years old and single vision. When wearing them I can see the serrations on the front sight of my Kimbers and S&W revolvers in perfect focus. The target will be blurry as it should be but the front sight is in perfect focus. Since that is what we are looking for it solved my problem for a period of time anyway. Hopefully, I will have enough older glasses that can be used to keep the front sight in focus for years to come. As long as I can hold the pistol all will be good. Try it it may help solve your sighting issue at no cost.

Have a Happy New Year.

Navy Get some thing like a playingcard put a hole in it like a big pin try differnt size hole'a put the card to your eye and look down at a set of sights just like you were shooting tell me what you can see now every thing should be sharp try it it work's for me Happy new year

Well,
I took the EAA Witness-P 10 m.m. to the range again today and I was even more impressed
with it than I was the first time.
Again I put five different types of ammo thru it with ZERO problems.
I even put my nuclear reloads thru it. Again I was very impressed with the accuracy.
The only change from the range session last week is that this time I put a Wolff spring kit into it.
I used the 20# recoil spring and a heavy duty firing pin spring.
It does get your attention compared to my heavier Stainless Steel framed Smith and Wesson's.
But the heavier recoil spring slowed down the slide alot and the recoil is much less.
It doesn't pitch the brass as far as it did with the stock recoil spring.
I'm really liking this gun.
Next time I'll try the 22# recoil spring and if it cycles all my loads, I'll be lovin' it.
Regards,
BM1

Gunfan is right about the Witness fix , and he's also bright enough not to let me get within 10 feet of it cause he might not get it back . Like I said earlier theres nothing wrong withthem and I'd loveto add a metal frame one in 'wonder finish' to my 10MM collection .
(BTW Gunfan , does that dealer in Vancouver still have that 1076 ?? and what is the name of that store .. I forgot to ask you the name the last time I saw you )

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Originally posted by Mortech:
Gunfan is right about the Witness fix , and he's also bright enough not to let me get within 10 feet of it cause he might not get it back . Like I said earlier theres nothing wrong withthem and I'd loveto add a metal frame one in 'wonder finish' to my 10MM collection .
(BTW Gunfan , does that dealer in Vancouver still have that 1076 ?? and what is the name of that store .. I forgot to ask you the name the last time I saw you )

Sorry, Brother. I haven't seen that 1076 in quite some time. You can call RW Pawn @ 1-(360)-576-4476 and ask if they have one, or one like it.

Scott

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Originally posted by warrenag:
Navy I never shot 10mm so I looked up some of loading info and that's some good round.Now I see why you guy's like it so much But what about the accuracy I am a bullseye shooter and I don't shoot hot stuff It's to hard on me and the gun And never get's me the accuracy I want As for me A good trigger sights and the right load as for springs there is no magic formula Finding what works for you and the gun is the fun part

I have been shooting the 10mm since 1991 and have determined it to be one of the most accurate rounds I have ever fired. (I own five handguns chambered for the cartridge!) The secret(s) to finding an accurate 10mm are:

a: Buying a handgun of reasonable quality. This shouldn't be difficult, because most auto pictols and revolvers chambered for the 10mm are of excellent repute.

b: Deciding the purpose for the pistol/revolver. This is particularly important for the autopistol because, you must balance the recoil, hammer and firing pin springs along with a flat-bottomed firing pin retainer. This is how one configures the pistol to shoot "full power" 10mm, or "medium-sized game hunting" loads for the 1911-patterned autopistol. It is done to tame the "brisk" recoil of the cartridge in order to avoid "frame battering." If you do as I have instructed, the 10mm should have the same service life as that of an idetical pistol chambered for the .38 Super.

c: The Witness and Glock do NOT employ a "swinging link" system. The Glock needs but an increased power "captured" recoil spring in order to use the heavier loads. The Witness needs the heavier recoil coupled with an "extra-power" firing pin spring.


What is nice about the 10mm, is that you possess a service-size autopistol that has the versatility of a "magnum-powered" revolver cartridge. (Full-power loads effectively "split the difference" between the .357 S&W Magnum and .41 Remington Magnum revolver rounds.)

For the revolver, you simply need to determine what load best suits your purpose and shoots most accurately.

These handguns, while not posessing the .41 Remington Magnum's power level, are reasonably close, and can effectively compete with the "middle magnum" in the hunting field. As an antipersonnel round, the 155-165 grain "full-house" loads (Double Tap) are some of the most effecive loads that exist! Why do you think that I carried them on duty while I could? I wanted to survive an armed confrontation!

This is why I stand behind my philosophy that the 10mm is the most versatile autopistol cartridge extant. It excels in nearly every application for an autopistol. Personal defense, small and medium game hunting, the 10mm can "do it all" with consummate aplomb!

Scott

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EAA Witness 10mm + $300 = pretty good deal in my book. Buy it!

What's strange about the 10mm Auto pistol it it's relatively light recoil when compared to the .41 and .44 Remington Magnum cartridges. I can rip off 6 "full house" 10mm loads from either my DW Razorback or from my S&W Model 610 managing to keep them all on target without much difficulty. When it comes to doing that will My model 657, it can be done. It is, however, a bit of a challenge.

I can hammer a "bad guy" with My Glock Model 20, Tanfoglio Witness, or Dan Wesson's Razorback #84 very quickly! While I can manage to shoot reasonably well with either my S&W Model 58, or 657, it takes a bit of time to recover between the shots. With "full-tilt" .41 Remington Magnum loads it's not a trifling task! In an emergency situation, I'd rather use one of my 10mm's... Thank you very much!

Scott

Well,
The 22# recoil spring did not cycle my target hand loads so I went back to the 20# spring.
Now,
Where can I get some extra power magazine springs, Wolff doesn't have any for the 10 m.m. mags.
I do see on the EAA website that the follower for the 10 m.m. and the .45 ACP are the same.
And since its a CZ clone, I'm going to see about getting some springs for a CZ 97B (.45 ACP).
Any info in this matter would help.
Regards,
BM1