Okay guys, I'm the proud new owner of a pre-Model 10 in .38 Special made between 1948-1952. I plan to use it for off-duty carry as I'm an LEO (and in my pre-retirement days I guess I'm missing what I started out with). I don't plan on shooting +P ammo out of it regularly, but I would like to carry the +P 158 gr. Remington load in it on the street. I don't think it would have any problem digesting a couple dozen rounds of +P just to see how it shoots them, but I thought I'd ask for opinions from the experts. That would be you guys Any opinions? Thanks in advance.
SW&W does not recommend the regular use of +P ammo in .38 Special M&P revolvers made before the model designation stamped into the frame.
My own feeling is that a few dozen rounds won't hurt anything, but keep in mind that cracked forcing cones are frequently found in older .38 specials from that time frame. It's the major reason S&W went to a higher grade of barrel steel after high velocity jacketed bullet ammo became popular in the 1960's.
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Factory +P is loaded below allowable maximum pressure for the caliber and will cause your gun no harm whatsoever.
This 1942 M&P has so far digested 600 rounds of +P (125 JHP at 925 FPS) and another 600 rounds of my hand-loads (125 JHP at 1,150 FPS) on top of however many thousands of rounds it fired before falling into my hands with no sign of excessive wear or stress.
Nice old M&P. I have a couple of old NYPD ones just like it but with a lot more blue wear.
Can't see where a moderate amount of the +P 158 gr. SWCHPs are going to do anything very bad to them. If I were going to carry one I would stoke it up with those and feel okay.
I also have the same gun and shoot it on a regular basis with standard pressure 158 grain LSWC ammo. I would not hesitate to carry it loaded with the 158 grain LSWC +P ammo if I were to use it as a carry piece. I would not fire a lot of the +P ammo through it, however I can not believe that the 10% power increase will harm your gun. The proof loads that they tested those guns with was a lot hotter than the +P ammo of today's manufacture.
I'm with Saxon Pig on this one. I think you'd die of carpal tunnel syndrome before you would wear out a K-frame .38 (even an older one) with factory +Ps.
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I have a 5" 1946 model and I wouldn't hesitate to put +p in it. I also say this as if you look at pressures, most +p pressures, they are 17k psi vs the 15k psi which .38 factory loads generally operate around.
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