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I found this old M&P yesterday and just thought it was interesting. I believe its a 1905 4change made about 1941. The serial number is a litte blurry in the pic and is S 795667. I hadn`t seen too many in 2" with the lanyard ring and square butt. Click on the pics for larger images.




 
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Wow - that is very cool.
I like it alot!
 
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I like it a lot too and wish I could find one just like it. Thanks for posting it.
 
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That is a really neat piece, thanks for sharing


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This is a post-WW2 serial number - 1946 or so.

There is something not right about the barrel. Either the extractor is
bent, or that is a replacement barrel. The pin in the extractor lug is
sticking out way too far - its not seating properly.

Is that barrel properly serial-numbered to the gun ? I'm not aware of any
early post-WW2 2" .38's . Its always possible, but I don't know.

Later, Mike Priwer
 
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Mike,You bring up some good points. There is no number on the barrel. The number on the cylinder is just the 795667 with out the s prefix. On the butt the numbers are normal size on the right side of the lanyard ring but there is a very small s on the left side. Also on page 140 in the S&W 3rd edition it mentions 2" round & 2" square Pre war guns, both bringing a premium. I will definately need to do a little more research on this one.I`m thinking this might be a rebarreled Victory 38 Special. Thanks for your input.


 
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Hello,

I would guess that the ejector rod has been cut, as there doesn't appear to be any knurling on the end of the rod.

One other thing - the S serial numbered K frames started with S 811120.

Take care,


Steve Bryson

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About 35+ years ago Numrich Arms offered some surplus early post war 2" M&P barrels. Price was about $19. They had no serial numbers and appeared to be old stock that had never been installed.

I bought several and installed them on old revolvers I had. I also purchased the correct length ejector rods. Some of the buyers did not and just cut ejector rods to fit. This looks like one.

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Yes - someone did cut the extractor rod. And that barrel is, more than
likely, one of the Numrich barrels.

Its possible - possible - that the real serial number is SVxxxxxx,
and the lanyard ring is mounted through the V. Or, the number could
be S795667 - on the back of the cylinder, the S could be way way to
the left of the digits. There should be something there - a V or an S,
but it may not be right next to the rest of the serial number.

I hope you didn't pay too much for this gun - there is no premium for
replaced barrels , irregardless of length.

Later, Mike Priwer
 
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It's still a neat toy, regardless of the pedigree.
 
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Thanks guys, i might just use it as my truck gun. I did over pay. oh well, live & learn.


 
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Smith&W:
I almost did the same thing a few weeks back with a very similar gun. It had a serial number on the cylinder and butt which indicated a 4th change from the 30s. It had a very righteous looking 2" barrel and had a square butt configuration. Plus it was nickeled. Things were looking good as these are not at all common. Seller stated it was all original. However, there was no N on any surface indicating original nickel. Not a deal killer since I have seen some earlier which didn't have it stamped on the butt strap or cylinder. BUT, it had a different, five digit serial number on the barrel flat, preceded by a B. Must have been a post war barrel on a pre-war frame. Sometimes things just don't work out.
You still have an interesting gun with that serial number. Seems early for an S series. Mike is probably on track with the missing V where the swivel is mounted.

Ed
 
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All things considered, its still a pretty neat gun to have.


Stan
 
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Originally posted by stbryson:
Hello,

I would guess that the ejector rod has been cut, as there doesn't appear to be any knurling on the end of the rod.

One other thing - the S serial numbered K frames started with S 811120.

Take care,


Steve,

S/N's on the postwar Transition M&P's are actually found a good bit below S810XXX. I've had several in the S770XXX and up range, each of these had pre-war type magna's, too. All other features except the grips were the same as usually seen on this model.

David
 
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David

Are you sure ? I would say those are SV guns, not S guns.

Later, Mike Priwer
 
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