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I would like to know more about this gun if you guys know about it. Here are some pics of my new hog leg. It looks like a 1905 4th change but I don't know for sure and the year of manufacture list in the FAQ section does not cover the serial number. Thanks guys
 
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Not a 1905 4th change. The caliber is 38 S&W not 38 S&W Spl. Given the missing lanyard ring, I'm guessing a K-200 (38/200) made during WWII. Someone more familiar with these will be along. Are there any other markings or do you see any initials not visible in the pics?

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From what I know and have read:
These were built for the British Government prior to our entry into WW2. These were actually purchased by them, not lend-lease as were the later 'Victory' models. Some of the overruns were sold here and won't have British proof stamps.
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Anybody know what that "P" stamped on the butt means?


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Mechanically, it IS the same as a 1905-4th.
Technically, it is a 38/200 British Service Revolver.
They did not HAVE to purchase them- they already had! S&W had spent most of a $1,000,000 advance from the Brits developing the very sorry 9mm Light Rifle, and the Brits wanted their money back!
Hellstrom negotiated a deal whereby the Brits took payment in guns.
This one appears to have been diverted by the U.S. Gov't., probably for guarding a Defense plant. I believe the P is an acceptance mark by the US.


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Hey guys--took a dinner break.

I opened up the cylinder and there are matching numbers on the frame and yoke-- 83139.

On the top of the barrel there is the patent info from Feb 06, Dec 14 etc.

The cylinder serial number matches the frame on butt.

Looking at the picture-- that spot just above the grip and rear screw there is a mark. It looks like it was to be a circle (about 80% of the circle remains) and inside it it looks like a very narrow W. I thought it was a V, but it has the additional line that makes it a W. It is oriented by turning the butt of the gun down and barrel up to read the W. I took the grip off and there is an H and a R stamped far from one another on the right side of the frame at the bottom.
 
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Your description of the W in a circle sounds suspiciously like the King's Broad Arrow in a C, which would indicate a weapon used by Canadian forces. That might explain how it got back to the USA without all the proof stamps &c. usually found on British pieces.

Picture a capital C with three lines in it, one vertical, the other two sloped, all intersecting at the top of the letter.

A good picture of the stamp would help.


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